RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive

RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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sealtt said:
You guys are confusing it with the previous ford ranger which was a platform share with the Mazda.

The current ranger is a Ford developed product as the poster above even said he worked on which is pretty cool!

The next generation ranger will be a platform share with VW. However I believe it is Ford doing the development, so in essence it will remain a Ford product with VW using it as the platform for their truck too.


As for the raptor I love it despite deserving a bit more power, and I would buy it if it qualified as a commercial vehicle for company car purposes. Unfortunately it does not, so it’s a wildtrack for me.
I'm not disputing this, only going on info I find/read. The Wiki article looks pretty clear, but I didn't work on the vehicle myself. Maybe someone needs to update Wiki to be more correct?

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
I'm not disputing this, only going on info I find/read. The Wiki article looks pretty clear, but I didn't work on the vehicle myself. Maybe someone needs to update Wiki to be more correct?
The wiki is actually correct at least now but not sure if it’s been fixed since you linked.

It is saying the current one (2012 to current) is Ford designed and engineered, which replaces the previous Mazda derived one (up to 2012).

So the previous poster can still use his check shirt just fine in this vehicle, though might want to make it a cooler full of fosters in the back.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Zetec-S said:
GroundEffect said:
fblm said:
stickleback123 said:
300bhp/ton said:
I agree, I suspect once rolling it probably doesn't feel that slow, it might also have some deliberate power reducing gubbins or delay off the line to protect the drivetrain, which will impact a timed 0-60mph run.
Yes I agree that it'll probalby be detuned in 1st and 2nd (lots of things are)...
Why? The regular Ranger does 0-60 in under 7. The reason this is so comically slow is that it’s got a pathetic engine.
Huh? The 3.2 I5 diesel is 0-60 in over 10 seconds. The "normal Ranger" I presume you mean the 2.3 EcoBoost that North America gets?
Also a bit confused by those figures... a normal Ranger as quick to 60 as a Fiesta ST???
Pretty sure they are referring to the US spec 2.3 petrol turbo. Although I don't know what other changes it went through. But that aside, the torque profile diesel and petrol engines is different.
Pretty sure the Ranger uses the same 10 speed from the F150 (10R80) which is good for 650ftlb. The 2l diesel couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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loveice said:
Why people keep on asking for V8 for this Ranger Raptor? Even your fantasy F150 Raptor doesn't have a V8.
Mine does...(admittedly it's not new, but that's the reason I've kept it.

sassthathoopie

862 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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nobrakes said:
sassthathoopie said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
So it's not quick and doesn't have a V8 - who cares? It looks great, is brilliant off road and is totally different to anything else in the UK.

Not everything has to be about straight line speed.


Mine's got Fox Racing dampers, 35" BF Goodrich tyres and is heaps cheaper: Isuzu D-Max Arctic Trucks AT35 Utility Pack
Do they do a LWB double cab version of that?
All D-Max's have the same wheelbase. The standard AT35 model is a double cab. The AT35 'Utility Pack' is available on single, extended or double cab - essentially Arctic Trucks put the kit on which ever D-Max suits you.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Zetec-S said:
Also a bit confused by those figures... a normal Ranger as quick to 60 as a Fiesta ST???
Correct. USA Ranger is 2.3 Ecoboost, 0-60 in 6.8

Zetec-S

5,873 posts

93 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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fblm said:
Zetec-S said:
Also a bit confused by those figures... a normal Ranger as quick to 60 as a Fiesta ST???
Correct. USA Ranger is 2.3 Ecoboost, 0-60 in 6.8
That's not really a "normal" Ranger...

sassthathoopie

862 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
sassthathoopie said:
I paid £34,500 + VAT for mine last summer (It is a Utility Pack as I needed an extended cab) They are great fun to drive and do pick up their skirts, but of course that's not the point!

The latest Colorado has nothing to do with Isuzu - they parted ways with the development of the new Chevy.
Isn't the Colorado and D-Max built on the platform and essentially the same truck?

No. Not since 2016.
https://paultan.org/2016/07/29/gm-and-isuzu-end-pi...
Mazda have also ended their relationship with Ford. The new Mazda BT50 will share a chassis with the new D-Max due next year.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Zetec-S said:
That's not really a "normal" Ranger...
It 100%, just not for our market. In fact in the USA it's the only engine option I believe. And I suspect they will sell more Ranger's there than they do here.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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sassthathoopie said:
No. Not since 2016.
https://paultan.org/2016/07/29/gm-and-isuzu-end-pi...
Mazda have also ended their relationship with Ford. The new Mazda BT50 will share a chassis with the new D-Max due next year.
Thanks for link. But isn't that about the commercials and forthcoming vehicles. The Colorado still uses the same platform since before that article. So I'm pretty sure the trucks are still related. Current model was launched in 2014 and still in production.

Zetec-S

5,873 posts

93 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Zetec-S said:
That's not really a "normal" Ranger...
It 100%, just not for our market. In fact in the USA it's the only engine option I believe. And I suspect they will sell more Ranger's there than they do here.
Yes, it's normal for the US market. However, this article's title is "Ford Ranger Raptor: UK Drive".

Why compare a UK model which isn't available in the US to a US model which isn't available in the UK?


sassthathoopie

862 posts

215 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
sassthathoopie said:
No. Not since 2016.
https://paultan.org/2016/07/29/gm-and-isuzu-end-pi...
Mazda have also ended their relationship with Ford. The new Mazda BT50 will share a chassis with the new D-Max due next year.
Thanks for link. But isn't that about the commercials and forthcoming vehicles. The Colorado still uses the same platform since before that article. So I'm pretty sure the trucks are still related. Current model was launched in 2014 and still in production.
Are you sure you are not getting mixed up between the Chevrolet/Holden Colorado in Australia, and the US market only Chevrolet Colorado?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Zetec-S said:
That's not really a "normal" Ranger...
It 100%, just not for our market. In fact in the USA it's the only engine option I believe. And I suspect they will sell more Ranger's there than they do here.
True but to be fair to Zetec the US numbers are suprisingly miserable. Amazingly they sold over 50k in EU last year and they are only on track to sell 60k in the US this year. By contrast they sell 80k F150's a month! Americans think little trucks are gay.

Zetec-S

5,873 posts

93 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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fblm said:
True but to be fair to Zetec the US numbers are suprisingly miserable. Amazingly they sold over 50k in EU last year and they are only on track to sell 60k in the US this year. By contrast they sell 80k F150's a month! Americans think little trucks are gay.
Yes, I guess the Ranger Raptor is a little small and understated over there hehe

Most popular cars/trucks in the US (2016):
1. Ford F-Series (820k)
2. Chevrolet Silverado (575k)
3. RAM Trucks (489k)
4. Toyota Camry (388k)
5. Honda Civic (367k)

They do like their big trucks smile


morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Kawasicki said:
300bhp/ton said:
BenLowden said:
I can see myself in one of those in my favourite checked shirt blasting out Sweet Home Alabama. Love it!
I suppose the irony is, this Ranger was a development of a Japanese truck, design for the RoW markets and not the USA and wasn't even sold there until recently. And aren't most Rangers built in Asia.

That said, I probably agree with your sentiment. Awesome song and a great looking truck. Plus I have lots of check shirts...... getmecoat

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This Ranger is an australian developed Ford, it's not based on anything Japanese.
UK Rangers are built in South Africa, not sure about ROW.

meatballs

1,140 posts

60 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Glenn63 said:
I thought pickups are classed as normal vehicles as they have back/5 seats?
Dual purpose:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-der...

It's over the weight limit for dual purpose, but I wonder if they will just put them through as a car on their type approval to try and bypass this?

Would imagine there might be some suprise speeding fines for doing 70 on a dual carriageway if not.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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meatballs said:
Would imagine there might be some suprise speeding fines for doing 70 on a dual carriageway if not.
If it got up to 70 that would be a surprise! hehe

loveice

649 posts

247 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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AdeTuono said:
loveice said:
Why people keep on asking for V8 for this Ranger Raptor? Even your fantasy F150 Raptor doesn't have a V8.
Mine does...(admittedly it's not new, but that's the reason I've kept it.
Unfortunately, Ford didn’t do a Raptor version of the last generation Ranger. Otherwise, it could’ve had a V6 everybody wanted as your F150 Raptor is the last generation one which had a V8. But we are talking about this generation of Ranger and F150...

anonymous-user

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54 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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AdeTuono said:
Mine does...(admittedly it's not new, but that's the reason I've kept it.
Nice. I've got first dibs on my neighbours V8 Raptor. It sounds epic biggrin

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Friday 13th September 2019
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Chestrockwell said:
Why haven’t ford put the 3.2 5cyl diesel from the current ford rangers?
Because the 3.2 isnt as economoical, as fast or as refined as the new engine.