RE: Ford Ranger Raptor | UK Drive
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Kawasicki said:
300bhp/ton said:
BenLowden said:
I can see myself in one of those in my favourite checked shirt blasting out Sweet Home Alabama. Love it!
I suppose the irony is, this Ranger was a development of a Japanese truck, design for the RoW markets and not the USA and wasn't even sold there until recently. And aren't most Rangers built in Asia.That said, I probably agree with your sentiment. Awesome song and a great looking truck. Plus I have lots of check shirts......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_(T6)
Zetec-S said:
Roo said:
Fast Bug said:
It’s not a builders thing, or indeed any kind of work truck. The payload is so low, that in the eyes of the law it’s not a commercial vehicle. So run it through the books and the tax man nails you for BIK as a 50k car. Nice one Ford, point missed by a country mile.
This is the bit most people have missed.Whereas if they had maintained the +1 Tonne load weight then I'd have one in a heartbeat as a company truck. For comparison, classed as a commercial vehicle you can run it for roughly £130 a month (including fuel paid for by the company) as a 40% tax payer...not commercial around £580 a month (not including fuel) just in company car tax. So yeah, not a sensible financial option or sensible options full stop and point missed by Ford.
Dr G said:
It's horrible but there's clearly a market for people who want to make their pickup trucks look this way so I don't begrudge Ford for taking their money.
I personally think they're in quite poor taste but don't imagine the people buying them care about my opinion for a nanosecond.
I suspect some people may feel the same about these though... I personally think they're in quite poor taste but don't imagine the people buying them care about my opinion for a nanosecond.
DBRacingGod said:
DBRacingGod said:
Zetec-S said:
Kubevoid said:
It's the sort of thing a site foreman, surveyor, project manager type will rock up on site with, dressed in shirt and trousers, who will then proceed to don hard hat, hi-viz and willies to trudge around site with a clipboard looking important.
Willies, eh? - Wellies* - Must learn to proof read...
300bhp/ton said:
But this isn’t an S6, it’s the “S-Line” model that tries desperately to look the part, while suffering from an extreme lack of actual performance. Maybe the F150 is a little too big for U.K. roads, but that’s a proper truck with serious performance both on and off road.
As others have said, Ford are likely to sell almost none of these Ranger Raptors anyway, because all of the tax and company reasons for having a ‘nice’ pickup truck just don’t apply to this one.
the wildtrack is significantly cheaper and does without what some plastic bits an bobs, this at 50k is just going to sell in double figures at best. The Isuzu is way cheaper an does the same thing and "looks the part" if that is your thing and there is a huge aftermarket for pickup add-ons in the UK already. So no not for me. Also a V8 version feels a bit like the RR SVR and X5M stuff etc kind of pointless but of course we are all glad they exist and there vision for such things is there.
300bhp/ton said:
Heaps cheaper, aren't they about £47,000?
https://www.isuzu.co.uk/arctictrucksat35
Cool trucks though. Probably not as good at the high speed stuff as the Raptor though. Shame Isuzu don't offer a variant of the Colorado ZR2 with the AT35 bits. Now that would be a really cool truck.
I paid £34,500 + VAT for mine last summer (It is a Utility Pack as I needed an extended cab) They are great fun to drive and do pick up their skirts, but of course that's not the point!https://www.isuzu.co.uk/arctictrucksat35
Cool trucks though. Probably not as good at the high speed stuff as the Raptor though. Shame Isuzu don't offer a variant of the Colorado ZR2 with the AT35 bits. Now that would be a really cool truck.
The latest Colorado has nothing to do with Isuzu - they parted ways with the development of the new Chevy.
james-uqyen said:
make it faster or it's pointless. surely the V6 turbo would slot in? EV version to save the day in a few years maybe?
I’m sure it is possible. But Ford wouldn’t do it as its F150 Raptor uses a 3.5L V6 that can be found in the Ford GT. So as I said if you are talking about what engine Ford should’ve put in it, then the best I can see is the 350bhp engine from Focus RS.
forcedinduction7 said:
I think other markets get the 2.3 petrol turbo engine from the Mustang.
You mean standard Ranger, then yes. In America they have the 2.3 petrol version. But as for the Ranger Raptor, no. There’s only one version of it globally (mainly Asia, Australia and Europe).
Not available on my side of the pond. I don't even like the full sized Raptor V6. Big traditional V8 in the original truck is the one I would go for. You do have to be careful a bit with it. A number have bent frames behind the cab from enthusiastic jumping but I still lust for the old one.
Sandpit Steve said:
But this isn’t an S6, it’s the “S-Line” model that tries desperately to look the part, while suffering from an extreme lack of actual performance.
Maybe the F150 is a little too big for U.K. roads, but that’s a proper truck with serious performance both on and off road.
As others have said, Ford are likely to sell almost none of these Ranger Raptors anyway, because all of the tax and company reasons for having a ‘nice’ pickup truck just don’t apply to this one.
You are right, it isn’t a real S6 equivalent. But it certainly no S-Line either.Maybe the F150 is a little too big for U.K. roads, but that’s a proper truck with serious performance both on and off road.
As others have said, Ford are likely to sell almost none of these Ranger Raptors anyway, because all of the tax and company reasons for having a ‘nice’ pickup truck just don’t apply to this one.
It is a high speed off-roader just like the 90s Pajero Evo, but in a truck form and with way more extensive and expensive suspension and chassis modifications.
Of cause, unless it’s British, people here would only accept big horse power as anything special.
Edited by loveice on Thursday 12th September 13:41
Why haven’t ford put the 3.2 5cyl diesel from the current ford rangers?
Also, as for the performance, 10.5 seconds isn’t a lot on paper however my friend had a Diahatsu 4trak years ago with 100bhp turbo diesel with proper off road tyres and I’m not sure if it was the short gearing or the lack of refinement, it actually felt quite brisk when going through the gears....up to 50 mph!
I don’t think this is slow for what it is. Diesel cars always feel faster than they are because of the torque so I wouldn’t let that 0-60 time put me off!
Also, as for the performance, 10.5 seconds isn’t a lot on paper however my friend had a Diahatsu 4trak years ago with 100bhp turbo diesel with proper off road tyres and I’m not sure if it was the short gearing or the lack of refinement, it actually felt quite brisk when going through the gears....up to 50 mph!
I don’t think this is slow for what it is. Diesel cars always feel faster than they are because of the torque so I wouldn’t let that 0-60 time put me off!
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