RE: £90k McLaren 650S | Spotted

RE: £90k McLaren 650S | Spotted

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StuH

2,557 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Or, put your sensible hat on and get this for around the same money.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Lot of money for a TT

StuH

2,557 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Honeywell said:
Never quite get why you’d want a used out of warranty one of these super cars. Surely they are more e plaything for whom the cost is no more than me running a shed - so little as to be negligible.

For the £90k and annual bills you could easily have a fantastic garage with money to spare for hiring something if you fancy the odd track day.

Do supercars even work any more in this country? I promised myself a 911 as a young man and now that I could afford one I found I didn’t want one because doing 69mph in second gear meant it you only needed 2nd and 3rd on any British B road.
Yep. Thrash mine as a DD all over the place. Anywhere apart from the south east and plenty of fun to be had.

StuH

2,557 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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br d said:
Just come back on the Eurotunnel and met two guys coming back from a euro hoon, a gorgeous Aurora Blue 650S and a special edition R8.
I like the look of the 650S more now than when I had one, fabulous thing.

The R8 was one of only 5 RH drive models, looked and sounded fantastic.
Thrashing round Europe is what these things were made for!
He hadn’t just bought that R8 at an auction had he?

Moving to the alps in a few weeks. Going to need a 650 or 720 in my life cloud9

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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JxJ Jr. said:
OddCat said:
...Mclaren where the factory looked like a high tech laboratory and everything looked perfect. Ron Dennis was having a major strop about the fact that one floor tile in the reception area that had been replaced was a slightly different colour to all of the others. I thought that such pursuit of perfection would result in a car so perfect and, over engineered, that it would be bullet proof and would be as close to a "never go wrong" car as it would be possible to get.
Well, this is the thing, the 'reputation'. I recall a similar tale about a load of trolley wheels arriving and being pale grey instead of pure white so having to be re-ordered. There is professionalism, well presented, clean and tidy and so on, but then there's also pernicketiness, OCD and micromanaging. That can give the appearance of perfection without being anything more than superficial because people learn how to work the system - make everything look perfect and you don't get picked up on anything deeper. A bit like Jony Ive who said something along the lines of "I'd always take two designs to Jobs, a fake and then the real one because he'd always reject the first one."
One of my businesses runs Mazak CNC machine tools in their workshops. One of the machine when we bought it was the exact same unit as being used in Woking. The story is that if they add a new unit into the works,mint has to have special paint to match the 'age' of the others because, despite the McLaren shop being spotlessly clean, paint will alter and someone wants all the machines to match...

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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StuH said:
He hadn’t just bought that R8 at an auction had he?

Moving to the alps in a few weeks. Going to need a 650 or 720 in my life cloud9
To my great shame Stu I don't know where he got it, he told me all about the car but it didn't sink in, I was too busy looking around it at the time and wasn't paying enough attention.

It was some kind of special race edition, only 44 made and 5 of those for the UK market.
Stunning car though.

Moving to the Alps eh? I hate your guts!


StuH

2,557 posts

274 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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br d said:
To my great shame Stu I don't know where he got it, he told me all about the car but it didn't sink in, I was too busy looking around it at the time and wasn't paying enough attention.

It was some kind of special race edition, only 44 made and 5 of those for the UK market.
Stunning car though.

Moving to the Alps eh? I hate your guts!
Sounds like one - I’ll ask him when I see him again but he told me it was some very rare special edition in blue with the builders signature on or some such - I was too busy glazing over about a fast audi biggrin

Yeah, been a dream for quite a while, and finally the stars aligned with work, kids and life generally that doing a full ski season was an option so I grabbed it! Late summer Stelvio Pass runs will just be the icing on the cake cloud9

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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StuH said:
Sounds like one - I’ll ask him when I see him again but he told me it was some very rare special edition in blue with the builders signature on or some such - I was too busy glazing over about a fast audi biggrin

Yeah, been a dream for quite a while, and finally the stars aligned with work, kids and life generally that doing a full ski season was an option so I grabbed it! Late summer Stelvio Pass runs will just be the icing on the cake cloud9
Brilliant, good for you sir! I will be at Stelvio in late June next year, I'll give you a shout on here and if you are still nearby maybe we can grab a beer.


Edited by br d on Sunday 15th September 21:36

StuH

2,557 posts

274 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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br d said:
Brilliant, good for you sir! I will be at Stelvio in late June next year, I'll give you a shout on here and if you are still nearby maybe we can grab a beer.


Edited by br d on Sunday 15th September 21:36
Yep I’ll be around in June! Def get in touch. Never know, my 911 might have become Macca by then wink

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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br d said:
To my great shame Stu I don't know where he got it, he told me all about the car but it didn't sink in, I was too busy looking around it at the time and wasn't paying enough attention.

It was some kind of special race edition, only 44 made and 5 of those for the UK market.
Stunning car though.

Moving to the Alps eh? I hate your guts!
Sounds like an R8 Performance Parts model. Was it red?



br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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MJK 24 said:
Sounds like an R8 Performance Parts model. Was it red?
Yes, red one. Know it?

JLC25

572 posts

123 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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OddCat said:
Saw a TV programme a while back about Mclaren where the factory looked like a high tech laboratory and everything looked perfect. Ron Dennis was having a major strop about the fact that one floor tile in the reception area that had been replaced was a slightly different colour to all of the others. I thought that such pursuit of perfection would result in a car so perfect and, over engineered, that it would be bullet proof and would be as close to a "never go wrong" car as it would be possible to get. That then bring its USP (not as glamorous or exotic as a Ferrari but as reliable as a Swiss watch). Otherwise I don't get it and that makes me a bit sad.
Ron is no longer there. And i know more than enough people that will attest to the fact that this means standards on the production floor have dropped. However, cars under Ron's eye were also going out with poor build quality, but they could hide behind the "New venture" excuse.

I do love Mclarens. They tick so many boxes in the looks and driving department. But there is always the chance if you buy one, it can be an absolute lemon.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Digga said:
One of my businesses runs Mazak CNC machine tools in their workshops. One of the machine when we bought it was the exact same unit as being used in Woking. The story is that if they add a new unit into the works,mint has to have special paint to match the 'age' of the others because, despite the McLaren shop being spotlessly clean, paint will alter and someone wants all the machines to match...
If that’s true, I love it. Friend of mine was selling IT to them, the stories he told me how pedantic and detail oriented they were perfectly fits with their vehicles.

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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br d said:
Yes, red one. Know it?
I delivered two out of the five last year!

f1ten

2,161 posts

154 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Quarter mile drag race the 650s is about the same as a 488.
Not owned a 650s but have driven it and have to say I was very impressed with it, handling and performance is mega.



br d said:
Terminator X said:
Come on if that is your attitude a Renault Twizzy would do you!

TX.
Surely a Twizzy is more Hypercar? I can't keep up.

Pretty much anything would be fun in the Alps though.

Going back to this threads Mac though, isn't a similar aged 488 getting on for 50% more than this price?
Really subjective I know but the 650S is miles ahead of the 488 for me, not even on the same page.

ghost83

5,485 posts

191 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I love how build quality is a thing with mclaren yet if it’s ferrari then that’s just character lol

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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MJK 24 said:
br d said:
Yes, red one. Know it?
I delivered two out of the five last year!
Must've been fun!

It sounded great when it blasted past me on the M20.
I was in a 63 plate, entirely gutless Fiesta loaded with suitcases and holiday paraphernalia so thought it best not to give chase!

Terminator X

15,129 posts

205 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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GranCab said:
isaldiri said:
GranCab said:
The 458 was still in production in 2014. The cheapest 2014 458 in PH classifieds is £140K and has done 17K miles.

The 488 was from 2015 onwards. The cheapest 2015 488 in PH classifieds is £154,830 and has done 11K miles.
Amazing how little mileage people seem to do with Ferraris that are usually claimed to be much better cars to er drive than the Mclarens... wink
I guess the average mid-engine Ferrari owner does around a couple of thousand miles p.a. on weekend trips to posh hotels gets a regular haircut whereas the average McLaren owner racks up a lot more going back and forth to the Mcdealership to get their car fixed ..... smile
FTFY.

TX.