RE: Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf | Spotted
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Nice looking metallic red example on eBay for a lot less money!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Alfa-Romeo-145-2-0...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Alfa-Romeo-145-2-0...
ash73 said:
Loved the 146, had this one as a hire car the engine was lovely and revvy.
I bought a 147 some time later and it was quite disappointing in comparison.
That looks like it's an early example with the flat-4 engine. Much more characterful than the I4 T-Spark. The 145 1.7 16v is a rare beast and I prefer them to the 2.0 TSpark Cloverleaf.I bought a 147 some time later and it was quite disappointing in comparison.
Poppiecock said:
waynedear said:
They are good, ti is better though.
The 146?Mechanically identical, but the 146 is more practical. I don't think you'd notice any difference if you test drove back to back.
My advice, DON'T! I had a 146ti, same car with a boot on the back.
After spending lots on a cam belt, oil pump etc and treating it well...... It spun a shell.
Then after a rebuild, balance belt snapped, which is around the same area as the cambelt....
And the floors rot, galvanised body, but not the floor!!!
Electrics, hmmm, interesting, never again.
After spending lots on a cam belt, oil pump etc and treating it well...... It spun a shell.
Then after a rebuild, balance belt snapped, which is around the same area as the cambelt....
And the floors rot, galvanised body, but not the floor!!!
Electrics, hmmm, interesting, never again.
I once owned an Alfa Cloverleaf 145, Cloverleaf Mito, GTA 147.
The 145 has the best handling of the lot, by FAR. Such a better drivers car. Quirky too. Mine had zero rust or issues.
By comparison the Mito was pants as a drivers car. The GTA looked and sounded glorious, but all else was hopeless.
The 145 has the best handling of the lot, by FAR. Such a better drivers car. Quirky too. Mine had zero rust or issues.
By comparison the Mito was pants as a drivers car. The GTA looked and sounded glorious, but all else was hopeless.
I’ve owned two Alfa’s; this and a GTV Cup. Bought the latter brand new and had to have numerous issues resolved (thankfully under warranty). The only issue I had with my 145 was when the rear washer pipe came away so water pi**ed into the boot which was easily rectified. Given it only produced 150 bhp it was very thirsty but did handle well, so couldn’t complain although the driving position was typical Alfa ie designed for a monkey!
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory
I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory
I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Ever driven one? They're a hoot.I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory
I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
I love those wheels too, so cool.I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
I passed on one of these in dark blue with the caramel leather interior, what an error!
Greg the Fish said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory
I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Ever driven one? They're a hoot.I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
I love them, but circumstances never allowed me to have one, as they were always just a bit too raw as an only car.
The only Pug to come close was the 106GTi. That had epic sharp steering. Although the power and rawness was some way behind the 145.
Anyway, the numbers may not have impressed. However the drive was wonderful. Makes almost any modern hatch feel dull as hell. Even supposedly superior cars back then such as the Type R EP3 had lame steering by comparison.
Speed and power was only a very small part of the puzzle here. Feel, noise, feedback, involvement were great.
Anyway, the numbers may not have impressed. However the drive was wonderful. Makes almost any modern hatch feel dull as hell. Even supposedly superior cars back then such as the Type R EP3 had lame steering by comparison.
Speed and power was only a very small part of the puzzle here. Feel, noise, feedback, involvement were great.
I generally like most things about this proposition, and have to admit I too wasn't aware of them until now.
However, I can't quite put my finger on why, but for some reason it looks a bit weird to me - like a normal hatchback that has been in a terrible accident which someone has then crudely attempted to nail back together.
However, I can't quite put my finger on why, but for some reason it looks a bit weird to me - like a normal hatchback that has been in a terrible accident which someone has then crudely attempted to nail back together.
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