RE: Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf | Spotted

RE: Alfa Romeo 145 Cloverleaf | Spotted

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s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Nice looking metallic red example on eBay for a lot less money!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Alfa-Romeo-145-2-0...


Zaim

142 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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T-195 said:
Mike1990 said:
The awful square plates and OZ’s ruin it for me but can be rectified easy enough.
Plus the stty rear spoiler.

And the tinted rear windows.
And the smashed passenger side front indicator.

waynedear

2,179 posts

168 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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They are good, ti is better though.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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waynedear said:
They are good, ti is better though.
The 146?

Mechanically identical, but the 146 is more practical. I don't think you'd notice any difference if you test drove back to back.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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ash73 said:
Loved the 146, had this one as a hire car the engine was lovely and revvy.



I bought a 147 some time later and it was quite disappointing in comparison.
That looks like it's an early example with the flat-4 engine. Much more characterful than the I4 T-Spark. The 145 1.7 16v is a rare beast and I prefer them to the 2.0 TSpark Cloverleaf.

waynedear

2,179 posts

168 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Poppiecock said:
waynedear said:
They are good, ti is better though.
The 146?

Mechanically identical, but the 146 is more practical. I don't think you'd notice any difference if you test drove back to back.
Driven both and driven them hard, prefer the way the 146 drives, I did notice a difference, saying that maybe the 145 (not mine ) was just not as good as mine, I also think in the right colour the 146 is better looking.

Obison

156 posts

84 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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My advice, DON'T! I had a 146ti, same car with a boot on the back.
After spending lots on a cam belt, oil pump etc and treating it well...... It spun a shell.
Then after a rebuild, balance belt snapped, which is around the same area as the cambelt....
And the floors rot, galvanised body, but not the floor!!!
Electrics, hmmm, interesting, never again.

Kubevoid

192 posts

57 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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I once owned an Alfa Cloverleaf 145, Cloverleaf Mito, GTA 147.

The 145 has the best handling of the lot, by FAR. Such a better drivers car. Quirky too. Mine had zero rust or issues.

By comparison the Mito was pants as a drivers car. The GTA looked and sounded glorious, but all else was hopeless.

Gavodicko

35 posts

92 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I’ve owned two Alfa’s; this and a GTV Cup. Bought the latter brand new and had to have numerous issues resolved (thankfully under warranty). The only issue I had with my 145 was when the rear washer pipe came away so water pi**ed into the boot which was easily rectified. Given it only produced 150 bhp it was very thirsty but did handle well, so couldn’t complain although the driving position was typical Alfa ie designed for a monkey!

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

67 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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My old one.

Drove brilliantly. So much fun.



Full factory fitted MOMO leather



Edited by Greg the Fish on Monday 16th September 10:28


before and after on a tidy up







How it was when it arrived. £300. Including collection from somewhere in Wiltshire.



Edited by Greg the Fish on Monday 16th September 10:33

Jon_S_Rally

3,418 posts

89 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory laugh

I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

67 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory laugh

I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Ever driven one? They're a hoot.

Krikkit

26,538 posts

182 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory laugh

I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
I love those wheels too, so cool.

I passed on one of these in dark blue with the caramel leather interior, what an error!

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Greg the Fish said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
Love how people are slating the wheels, even though they are no doubt lighter and stronger than whatever it had from the factory laugh

I could never get on with the looks of these cars myself and, for this money, you could be in a 306 of some kind. If you want something odd ball, for about 60% less, you could have a Xsara VTS. This has to be one for the Alfa fans only.
Ever driven one? They're a hoot.
They were the last of the proper 'old school' hot hatches. Light weight, revvy N/A engine, stiff suspension, pointy handling and nothing that wasn't needed to make them go like a scolded cat. Really raucous and noisy things, too.

I love them, but circumstances never allowed me to have one, as they were always just a bit too raw as an only car.

Kubevoid

192 posts

57 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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The only Pug to come close was the 106GTi. That had epic sharp steering. Although the power and rawness was some way behind the 145.

Anyway, the numbers may not have impressed. However the drive was wonderful. Makes almost any modern hatch feel dull as hell. Even supposedly superior cars back then such as the Type R EP3 had lame steering by comparison.

Speed and power was only a very small part of the puzzle here. Feel, noise, feedback, involvement were great.

BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Rare as chicken lips.

lancer778544

75 posts

59 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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Poppiecock said:
The 145 1.7 16v is a rare beast and I prefer them to the 2.0 TSpark Cloverleaf.
I've got one of the two licenced examples out of the 20 left according to howmanyleft.co.uk. Its really fun to drive and requires all of the revs to make it move.

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I had two a red 1996 and a black 1999 (phase 2).
Loved them both. The early ones with the metal cam covers are 5 bhp down on paper, but always seemed more sprightly on the road compared to the later 155bhp versions with the plastic covers.

uncler

37 posts

186 months

Monday 16th September 2019
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I generally like most things about this proposition, and have to admit I too wasn't aware of them until now.

However, I can't quite put my finger on why, but for some reason it looks a bit weird to me - like a normal hatchback that has been in a terrible accident which someone has then crudely attempted to nail back together.