RE: McLaren GT | Driven
Discussion
Kubevoid said:
When McLaren decided to go mainstream I thought we may end up with an old school Porsche approach, but with modern tech. Ie, to focus building one model, then slowly evolve it into near perfection. Basically, ensure every single detail was as good as it could be. Create an icon. Follow the 911 ethos.
Sadly that wasn't the case. It's now rush them out the door. Come out with as many random ideas as possible. Ugly track cars, impractical GTs, stupidly swoopy fronts lashed on. Its a mess
McLaren isn’t Porsche and never will be.Sadly that wasn't the case. It's now rush them out the door. Come out with as many random ideas as possible. Ugly track cars, impractical GTs, stupidly swoopy fronts lashed on. Its a mess
Edited by Kubevoid on Wednesday 18th September 09:12
You may mourn this fact where others rejoice as it brings something truly different to the category and provides choice.
One mans meat is another mans poison etc.
As for honing one car for decades I’m just not sure it would work these days. Ironically McLaren are getting beaten up on this very thread for developing the same tub and engine.
They can’t win in the world of Internet forums it seems.
anonymous said:
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I'm not sure I understand how this engine is "dreary and unexciting". I don't profess to be an expert or anything but dreary and unexciting isn't what comes to mind when I'm being hurtled about at nosebleed speeds and breakneck acceleration. What am I missing?Edited by br d on Wednesday 18th September 18:25
br d said:
anonymous said:
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I'm not sure I understand how this engine is "dreary and unexciting". I don't profess to be an expert or anything but dreary and unexciting isn't what comes to mind when I'm being hurtled about at nosebleed speeds and breakneck acceleration. What am I missing?Edited by br d on Wednesday 18th September 18:25
You have too much experience.As an aside, I hope you're keeping well, old chum!
br d said:
I'm not sure I understand how this engine is "dreary and unexciting". I don't profess to be an expert or anything but dreary and unexciting isn't what comes to mind when I'm being hurtled about at nosebleed speeds and breakneck acceleration. What am I missing?
Normally aspirated linear power delivery, character, authentic induction noise, no turbo lag, better throttle response without turbo traits to name but a few.Edited by br d on Wednesday 18th September 18:25
Also, 'manuel' gearbox although this would be the icing on the cake.
Fast, yes.
Charismatic and interesting, 'fraid not.
anonymous said:
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Well, rather stupidly it appears, I was judging the engine on how it actually makes the car feel, which is enormously exciting and about as far from dreary as it's possible to be. The engine being charismatic and interesting aren't really things I'm concerned about when I'm hurtling down an Alpine pass. It doesn't make the best noise though, I'll give you that.
Different strokes.
I have owned both Ferrari and Lambo N/A cars and while they were great fun they didn't match the McLarens.
And the whole manual gearbox malarkey is a mystery to me, philistine that I am. Manual boxes are for driving around London in my vans, when I'm thrashing a supercar about I want both hands firmly on the wheel. I honestly want the experience to be in my guts, not in my head.
I have owned both Ferrari and Lambo N/A cars and while they were great fun they didn't match the McLarens.
And the whole manual gearbox malarkey is a mystery to me, philistine that I am. Manual boxes are for driving around London in my vans, when I'm thrashing a supercar about I want both hands firmly on the wheel. I honestly want the experience to be in my guts, not in my head.
I think it looks very good - striking, yet understated, both outside and in - and I have no doubt it will be great to drive. Given that, I'm not sure I really care about the nuances of the definition of a GT car.
That said, I'm unlikely to darken the door of a McLaren showroom anytime soon.
That said, I'm unlikely to darken the door of a McLaren showroom anytime soon.
I quite like that in the colours for the review; it looks lovely and quite subtle too. Not too sure about the storage though. It looks pretty rubbish fir actually putting stuff in which may hamper its appeal as a GT.
As a brand, I respect their cars but don’t really desire them like I do other super cars. I find them a bit cold and clinical.
As a brand, I respect their cars but don’t really desire them like I do other super cars. I find them a bit cold and clinical.
I have to LOL at all the people saying that a Grand Tourer has to be front engined. In about 10 years time these cars will be a full BEV, look at the bentley EXP100 concept (vision for the GT in the 2030s). No engine. No PH complaints? I doubt it.
The idea behind taking a GT not an S-class on a road trip is that you can flog it down the backroads to your overnight stop once you get off the Autobahn. I know which GT I'd rather be in for that. With no steering feedback, grip, no body control, the Bentley or the Aston would probably slither into a ditch at the side of the road before this broke a sweat . And yes, I have driven them both.
The idea behind taking a GT not an S-class on a road trip is that you can flog it down the backroads to your overnight stop once you get off the Autobahn. I know which GT I'd rather be in for that. With no steering feedback, grip, no body control, the Bentley or the Aston would probably slither into a ditch at the side of the road before this broke a sweat . And yes, I have driven them both.
D4rez said:
I have to LOL at all the people saying that a Grand Tourer has to be front engined. In about 10 years time these cars will be a full BEV, look at the bentley EXP100 concept (vision for the GT in the 2030s). No engine. No PH complaints? I doubt it.
The idea behind taking a GT not an S-class on a road trip is that you can flog it down the backroads to your overnight stop once you get off the Autobahn. I know which GT I'd rather be in for that. With no steering feedback, grip, no body control, the Bentley or the Aston would probably slither into a ditch at the side of the road before this broke a sweat . And yes, I have driven them both.
I know for a fact you have driven neither. The idea behind taking a GT not an S-class on a road trip is that you can flog it down the backroads to your overnight stop once you get off the Autobahn. I know which GT I'd rather be in for that. With no steering feedback, grip, no body control, the Bentley or the Aston would probably slither into a ditch at the side of the road before this broke a sweat . And yes, I have driven them both.
anonymous said:
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So, you wouldn't describe the type of cars they're building as being part of their "business model". Strange, but there we are.Which leaves us with the simple position that sports car manufacturers, including McLaren, don't build any cars that you like.
Or are there some sports cars you DO like?
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