RE: Tesla beats Taycan 'ring time...

[RumbleOfThunder]

RobDickinson said:

Max_Torque said:

Are you confusing consumption with efficiency?

No. despite all your words to an owner they mean the same. Traveling near half the distance for the same power.

That is the downside of owning the taycan. well that, the much smaller car and the much higher price tag.

You're coming across very sour mate.

[FurtiveFreddy]

RobDickinson said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Tesla seams slow, was it an old car or not a ludicrous?

Not sure they put the tesla into launch mode, or even if it was a raven.

It was a raven apparently but it's reported they didn't put it into L+ mode. Whether that's deliberate or not is open to discussion.

[RacerMike]

FurtiveFreddy said:

RobDickinson said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Tesla seams slow, was it an old car or not a ludicrous?

Not sure they put the tesla into launch mode, or even if it was a raven.

It was a raven apparently but it's reported they didn't put it into L+ mode. Whether that's deliberate or not is open to discussion.

It would have been slower than 2.68s to 60 if they hadn't put it in L+ mode. 2.6-2.7 is about right for a Raven in Launch mode 0-60 if you have a read of my previous post.

[FurtiveFreddy]

https://youtu.be/lE9eJtG8jaU

I should have said in my previous post 'full full L++++++++' mode or whatever they call it...

Personally, I'm really not that bothered which one is faster but if they're going to do this sort of test they should do it with both cars fully optimised.

Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Thursday 31st October 11:15

[RobDickinson]

So looks like top gear completely cheated that test. How unusual...

[buggalugs]

IIRC putting it in L+ mode is a significant faff and can take a good few minutes for battery conditioning, it's not something people would ever do when they're not doing yet another Tesla 1/4 mile video, so I think testing it without is valid. When you need to use performance in the real world you're not going to say OK everyone just wait 10 minutes while I warm the battery up.

[anonymous-user]

Lol, better steering, better overall drive, a million times better built..and made by an actual car manufacturer who understand dynamics.

I know where my money would go.

[RobDickinson]

buggalugs said:

IIRC putting it in L+ mode is a significant faff and can take a good few minutes for battery conditioning, it's not something people would ever do when they're not doing yet another Tesla 1/4 mile video, so I think testing it without is valid. When you need to use performance in the real world you're not going to say OK everyone just wait 10 minutes while I warm the battery up.

But obviously putting the taycan into launch mode is fine...

[RobDickinson]

And top gear admit they've used times from a 2017 model s test not a raven.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/porsche-taycan-vs...

[Lt. Coulomb]

What is this mythical raven? Musk reads Poe on Ambien trips?

[anonymous-user]

RobDickinson said:

But obviously putting the taycan into launch mode is fine...

Would that mode sharpen the steering/handling and make the interior look like it belonged at the price point??

[E65Ross]

Lt. Coulomb said:

What is this mythical raven? Musk reads Poe on Ambien trips?

Yes, it's name is Quoth!

[jamoor]

yonex said:

Lol, better steering, better overall drive, a million times better built..and made by an actual car manufacturer who understand dynamics.

I know where my money would go.

How is Tesla not an actual car manufacturer?

[AW111]

jamoor said:

yonex said:

Lol, better steering, better overall drive, a million times better built..and made by an actual car manufacturer who understand dynamics.

I know where my money would go.

How is Tesla not an actual car manufacturer?

And Porsche have built their share of chocolate drivetrains too : at least a Taycan should be safe from bore scoring and crumbling IMS...

[anonymous-user]

jamoor said:

How is Tesla not an actual car manufacturer?

Low volume startup company running at a massive loss. Whilst making poorly finished cars showcasing their USP.

[SuperPav]

yonex said:

jamoor said:

How is Tesla not an actual car manufacturer?

Low volume startup company running at a massive loss. Whilst making poorly finished cars showcasing their USP.

To be fair, that statement can be used by some to describe Aston Martin or Lotus, but nobody's calling them "not an actual car manufacturer".

Also, I'd have to check my numbers but pretty sure Tesla's volume is higher than Porsche's in 2019...


And no, not a "fanboi", in fact my job is the other car in this thread. But the Tesla/anti-Tesla fanaticism is getting a bit tedious.

[anonymous-user]

SuperPav said:

To be fair, that statement can be used by some to describe Aston Martin or Lotus, but nobody's calling them "not an actual car manufacturer".

Also, I'd have to check my numbers but pretty sure Tesla's volume is higher than Porsche's in 2019...


And no, not a "fanboi", in fact my job is the other car in this thread. But the Tesla/anti-Tesla fanaticism is getting a bit tedious.

I’m not anti Tesla, but the rampant outrage from the fanboys whenever an alternative is mentioned is amusing. I’d not be betting they sold more than Porsche tbh, and now the mainstream are producing EV, we will see just how they carry on. I’ll give them 3 years.

[FeelingLucky]

jamoor said:

yonex said:

Lol, better steering, better overall drive, a million times better built..and made by an actual car manufacturer who understand dynamics.

I know where my money would go.

How is Tesla not an actual car manufacturer?

You know you're not supposed to feed them, right?

[anonymous-user]

FeelingLucky said:

You know you're not supposed to feed them, right?

An obvious, if not inspired post.

Buy one, if you feel that strongly, clearly you don’t, hence the i8.

Troll?

[tertius]

Clarification from Top Gear on the drag race: https://t.co/elvYkfE7uY?amp=1