RE: Tesla beats Taycan 'ring time...
Discussion
SuperPav said:
jamoor said:
Have you driven both or something or are you making it up as you go along?
Yes I've driven both, on track and on the road.Full disclosure: the MS used were pre-Raven cars, but I'm not expecting the Raven model to handle any differently, just be more robust in terms of thermal resilience in the motor.
SuperPav said:
jamoor said:
Have you driven both or something or are you making it up as you go along?
Yes I've driven both, on track and on the road.Full disclosure: the MS used were pre-Raven cars, but I'm not expecting the Raven model to handle any differently, just be more robust in terms of thermal resilience in the motor.
jamoor said:
And you’d compare the model S to an a class? I’ve driven a model S and a 2006 s500 and both are in no way comparable handling wise. I’d say more XJ or 7er vs the model S.
I didn't say that, I said the driving difference between a MS and a Taycan is similar to that between a S-Class and a Panamera.I am not suggesting the MS drives like an S-class, nor am I saying that the Taycan drives like a Panamera. Apologies if that wasn't clear enough.
Silly Top Gear, why would they do anything as contentious as this? Talk about a storm in a teacup....
https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
YankeePorker said:
Silly Top Gear, why would they do anything as contentious as this? Talk about a storm in a teacup....
https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
They desperately try to stay relevant.https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
is Taycan vs ModelS the new "scooby vs Evo" argument for sad people?
I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars depending on which badge gave them more of a stiffy, so i guess those people have to have something to do these days........
I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars depending on which badge gave them more of a stiffy, so i guess those people have to have something to do these days........
Lt. Coulomb said:
YankeePorker said:
Silly Top Gear, why would they do anything as contentious as this? Talk about a storm in a teacup....
https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
They desperately try to stay relevant.https://insideevs.com/news/379926/musk-top-gear-te...
te journalism.Still don’t want an S, still do want a taycan.
Max_Torque said:
is Taycan vs ModelS the new "scooby vs Evo" argument for sad people?
I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars depending on which badge gave them more of a stiffy, so i guess those people have to have something to do these days........
Two identical cars. Well, there's a statement, a completely dumb one, but a statement nonetheless I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars depending on which badge gave them more of a stiffy, so i guess those people have to have something to do these days........
GOATever said:
Max_Torque said:
is Taycan vs ModelS the new "scooby vs Evo" argument for sad people?
I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars.
How is a scoob identical to an Evo? They are very different cars. I mean, those saddo's spent most of the late 19990's and early 2000's arguing about which was faster between two identical cars.
(if you need me explain the differences between two 2.0 turbo, 4wd, 4 door saloon cars with near on identical masses, widths, tyres sizes, power, torque and for all i know, the same number of cup holders, then think it's possible you missed, by some distance, the point....... ;-)
And it's of course possible for the "quicker car" in terms of time from zero mph to 60 mph to be "behind" the slower one in the actual "race", go on, have a think about it, it's not hard i promise.........
Max_Torque said:
And so it begins... It's like 1997 all lover again!
(if you need me explain the differences between two 2.0 turbo, 4wd, 4 door saloon cars with near on identical masses, widths, tyres sizes, power, torque and for all i know, the same number of cup holders, then think it's possible you missed, by some distance, the point....... ;-)
And it's of course possible for the "quicker car" in terms of time from zero mph to 60 mph to be "behind" the slower one in the actual "race", go on, have a think about it, it's not hard i promise.........
It'll be hard explaining to someone who thinks that because they are both 4 cylinder cars, that they are the same. Aren't you supposed to be an engineer (if you need me explain the differences between two 2.0 turbo, 4wd, 4 door saloon cars with near on identical masses, widths, tyres sizes, power, torque and for all i know, the same number of cup holders, then think it's possible you missed, by some distance, the point....... ;-)
And it's of course possible for the "quicker car" in terms of time from zero mph to 60 mph to be "behind" the slower one in the actual "race", go on, have a think about it, it's not hard i promise.........
yonex said:
Max_Torque said:
And so it begins... It's like 1997 all lover again!
(if you need me explain the differences between two 2.0 turbo, 4wd, 4 door saloon cars with near on identical masses, widths, tyres sizes, power, torque and for all i know, the same number of cup holders, then think it's possible you missed, by some distance, the point....... ;-)
And it's of course possible for the "quicker car" in terms of time from zero mph to 60 mph to be "behind" the slower one in the actual "race", go on, have a think about it, it's not hard i promise.........
It'll be hard explaining to someone who thinks that because they are both 4 cylinder cars, that they are the same. Aren't you supposed to be an engineer (if you need me explain the differences between two 2.0 turbo, 4wd, 4 door saloon cars with near on identical masses, widths, tyres sizes, power, torque and for all i know, the same number of cup holders, then think it's possible you missed, by some distance, the point....... ;-)
And it's of course possible for the "quicker car" in terms of time from zero mph to 60 mph to be "behind" the slower one in the actual "race", go on, have a think about it, it's not hard i promise.........
Dave Hedgehog said:
This just makes it even more amusing that when multiple other sources quite probably time the Taycan as quicker, he’ll look like even more of a loon.Although I suppose there’s going to be some sort of evidence all those videos are ‘fake news’ too. Perhaps evidence or Thermite or the sound of explosions going off. I don’t know!
RacerMike said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
This just makes it even more amusing that when multiple other sources quite probably time the Taycan as quicker, he’ll look like even more of a loon.Although I suppose there’s going to be some sort of evidence all those videos are ‘fake news’ too. Perhaps evidence or Thermite or the sound of explosions going off. I don’t know!
The problem is the test was either faked or done incompetently, they admitting using 2 year old figures for the previous model. Imagine if PH or EVO reported figures for the 991 GT3 for the 992 GT3 when that is launched next year
somebody needs to set both cars up for optimum performance and race them with a single take of footage with none of the BS that TG has done on this video
i hadn't noticed that they had tweaked the model s line up, just LR and a performance model now (presumably an evolution of the p100d ludicrous+) i have never seen a tesla hit 150 as fast as the performance does, and 50 more hp to come in the next update
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 4th November 08:46
Dave Hedgehog said:
I don't think they have a problem with the taycan being faster, he owns very fast cars from different brands, he is a drag racing channel not a tesla fanboi channel
The problem is the test was either faked or done incompetently, they admitting using 2 year old figures for the previous model. Imagine if PH or EVO reported figures for the 991 GT3 for the 992 GT3 when that is launched next year
somebody needs to set both cars up for optimum performance and race them with a single take of footage with none of the BS that TG has done on this video
i hadn't noticed that they had tweaked the model s line up, just LR and a performance model now (presumably an evolution of the p100d ludicrous+) i have never seen a tesla hit 150 as fast as the performance does, and 50 more hp to come in the next update
Wasn't Top Gears reason for using a two year old time that they couldn't get the same time out of a Model S when pitting it against the Taycan this time 'round? Cue uproar about a new mode, they're completely different cars nowadays and a tweet from Elon Musk that an OTA update along shortly will liberate another fifty horses.The problem is the test was either faked or done incompetently, they admitting using 2 year old figures for the previous model. Imagine if PH or EVO reported figures for the 991 GT3 for the 992 GT3 when that is launched next year
somebody needs to set both cars up for optimum performance and race them with a single take of footage with none of the BS that TG has done on this video
i hadn't noticed that they had tweaked the model s line up, just LR and a performance model now (presumably an evolution of the p100d ludicrous+) i have never seen a tesla hit 150 as fast as the performance does, and 50 more hp to come in the next update
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 4th November 08:46
The obvious thing would be to test the two cars "together" as in same strip, same day, same driver who had also read the instruction manuals for both cars (for what it's worth...): one does a run and the other does a run straight after. If you ran them side by side driver reaction would skew things ever so slightly and cause yet more furore!
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