RE: Tesla beats Taycan 'ring time...
Discussion
BFleming said:
I know some Tesla drivers. They also wear Apple watches, often work from home, and say how good their cars are. They've all floored them to see how amazing the acceleration is. They haven't done so multiple times in a row. They haven't brought it on track, because... well... the thought has never entered their heads. None of them are car people, they're tech heads that like the newest & shiniest. Their iPhone costs £50/month, their Tesla again is a monthly cost, rarely bought outright. It's just something different, and once the mainstream manufacturers make half-decent affordable electric cars available, Tesla will feel the pinch.
Erm, could you possibly be generalising from the particular? I'm a Tesla owner-driver, I don't wear an Apple watch, I'm certainly not a tech head but I am very much a car (and motorcycle) person having owned 100+ cars and raced and rallied quite a number of them. I haven't tracked the Tesla because I have other and better ways of getting on a circuit. I paid outright for my iPhone and my Tesla. I bought the latter as I was curious to see how good EVs are and they are pretty good - ask Monkey Harris if you don't believe me. Tesla have a five+ year lead on the likes of Porsche and Audi - check the stats and the infrastructure advantages. I might buy a Taycan next, or another Tesla, or something else altogether, but whatever, it will have to stack up logically and be fast, quiet and comfortable. Cheap parking in Westminster and no Congestion or ULEZ charges for EVs also appeal.
Plate spinner said:
Agreed, it’s the prototype model in disguise IMO.
Tesla are the underdog, the new guard. To start ‘bending’ the rules for plaudits would be an utterly daft move because everyone would pounce immediately to cry foul play. And it’s not been how they’ve operated so far, so why start now.
And think what you like about Musk, he’s probably stoned and laughing his tits off whilst on the phone to TacoBell.
FTFYTesla are the underdog, the new guard. To start ‘bending’ the rules for plaudits would be an utterly daft move because everyone would pounce immediately to cry foul play. And it’s not been how they’ve operated so far, so why start now.
And think what you like about Musk, he’s probably stoned and laughing his tits off whilst on the phone to TacoBell.
Burwood said:
This. It's a tricked out pony. The interior seats have been removed too
The ring cars are 7 seater interior cars. all the buthurt from the Porsche/ice fans lol
The taycan was a prototype turbo model, even the brakes on it were an upgrade option.
I'm sure they'll go back perhaps with the turbo S, competition is good.
RobDickinson said:
Burwood said:
This. It's a tricked out pony. The interior seats have been removed too
The ring cars are 7 seater interior cars. all the buthurt from the Porsche/ice fans lol
The taycan was a prototype turbo model, even the brakes on it were an upgrade option.
I'm sure they'll go back perhaps with the turbo S, competition is good.
This is getting a bit silly. Headline: 'Tricked and modded [insert make and model here] using cut slicks sets 'Ring record for [insert vehicle-type here]' 
There's a 'Ring-based trackday firm that runs Mk7 GTIs with a remap, widened arches, wider wheels and ultra-grippy tyres, upgraded brakes, lowered coil-overs and a roll cage - what's the difference between this type of spec and the dubious machines that the manufacturers use for their records?
There's a 'Ring-based trackday firm that runs Mk7 GTIs with a remap, widened arches, wider wheels and ultra-grippy tyres, upgraded brakes, lowered coil-overs and a roll cage - what's the difference between this type of spec and the dubious machines that the manufacturers use for their records?
Jordan210 said:
I assume the reason its fully blacked out including windscreen so you can see it has no interior and extra motors and so on ?
I hope Telsa release the spec of the car. So we know how close to being a production car it is.
My thoughts exactly. It’s practically buried the tyres I. The arches, and every window is tinted to hide that it probably has no interior. Christ only knows what spec it’s running. I hope Telsa release the spec of the car. So we know how close to being a production car it is.
fernando the frog said:
speed aside, it looks beautiful in that colour with the lowering and wheels
I have a Model S in that exact colour, wouldn't mind those wheels, anyone got a model for them? As for the Ring Time, I don't think Tesla should have been bothered, as someone else pointed out, Porsche was never about getting the best bang for buck, but people that want one will buy one. Tesla has different appeals, good SuC network, range, practicality, top tech features. I'd just have taken the lesser interior and less track focus and leave it at that.
On the other hand, if Tesla can deliver this vehicle with a 50k premium, it will still undercut the Turbo S by a considerable margin.
ZesPak said:
I have a Model S in that exact colour, wouldn't mind those wheels, anyone got a model for them? As for the Ring Time, I don't think Tesla should have been bothered, as someone else pointed out, Porsche was never about getting the best bang for buck, but people that want one will buy one. Tesla has different appeals, good SuC network, range, practicality, top tech features. I'd just have taken the lesser interior and less track focus and leave it at that.
On the other hand, if Tesla can deliver this vehicle with a 50k premium, it will still undercut the Turbo S by a considerable margin.
AlexS said:
J4CKO said:
It is interesting but ultimately b
ks isnt it ? put your average punter in even the cheapest (all relative...)Model S and give it full throttle, and pants will be pooped, same for the Taycan, they are all so many degrees of overkill in terms of acceleration anyway. Now the "Plaid" (which I believe is colonial for Tartan) will have 900 bhp or therabouts
Plaid comes from Maximum Plaid which was the fastest speed in Spaceballs. Ludicrous mode was the 2nd fastest.ks isnt it ? put your average punter in even the cheapest (all relative...)Model S and give it full throttle, and pants will be pooped, same for the Taycan, they are all so many degrees of overkill in terms of acceleration anyway. Now the "Plaid" (which I believe is colonial for Tartan) will have 900 bhp or theraboutsAshD said:
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I also expect Porsche / VW Group have bought a few Tesla's and ripped them apart to see what's inside them and learn where they can (I'm sure without infringing IP!)
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I used to work for a major US car company in competitor vehicle evaluation. All the oem's reverse engineer each others cars. Usually we'd buy a part one of our engineering departments was interested in from a dealer but if it was something prohibitively expensive like a whole engine we'd just call round the rental companies at Detroit airport and tear a rental apart! I also expect Porsche / VW Group have bought a few Tesla's and ripped them apart to see what's inside them and learn where they can (I'm sure without infringing IP!)
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