RE: BMW M6 Gran Coupe | Spotted
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cerb4.5lee said:
I know that the M6 is heavy but surely 560bhp and 501ib/ft torque feels a lot livelier than 414bhp and 295ib/ft in the M3? If the M6 is like the E92 M3 then you can count me out...it takes the M3 an age to wake up at low revs! 
You'd think so, but just didn't. definitely didn't have the top end fizz of the e92. I've lost interest in cars because of this sort of bulls
t really, only cars Im interested in now are Lotus and the Caterfield offerings.MikeGoodwin said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I know that the M6 is heavy but surely 560bhp and 501ib/ft torque feels a lot livelier than 414bhp and 295ib/ft in the M3? If the M6 is like the E92 M3 then you can count me out...it takes the M3 an age to wake up at low revs!
You'd think so, but just didn't. definitely didn't have the top end fizz of the e92. I've lost interest in cars because of this sort of bulls
t really, only cars Im interested in now are Lotus and the Caterfield offerings.A heavy kerbweight certainly can spoil the fun no doubt, but I guess that cars like these have a place and I wouldn't want to spend a hour or so on a motorway in a Caterham(I've driven one) that's for sure!
Well to be fair it does look great, although I wouldn't want silver!
And you do get a lot for the money, but maybe a bit too much if it's bigger than most parking spaces.
But I think it's like all the recent M offerings which just seem like one step above the top of the regular range, rather than being full-on M offerings as used to be the case.
I can't get excited by any of them - it's all turbo engines with fake exhaust pops and bangs, piped sound and flappy-paddle gearboxes.
But if they help with emissions and BMW seem to be able to sell them I suppose that is the future (sadly).
And you do get a lot for the money, but maybe a bit too much if it's bigger than most parking spaces.
But I think it's like all the recent M offerings which just seem like one step above the top of the regular range, rather than being full-on M offerings as used to be the case.
I can't get excited by any of them - it's all turbo engines with fake exhaust pops and bangs, piped sound and flappy-paddle gearboxes.
But if they help with emissions and BMW seem to be able to sell them I suppose that is the future (sadly).
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Tried a few of these, decided that the 2 door looked way better..
And that the 630i Sport, Manual was the right one for me.
It's simply a really nice thing to be in, drives well, handles ok (it's only a ton and a half..) comfy & quiet, and the straight six with a 6spd on the back of it is spot on.
It's not fast, but it's plenty brisk enough, and it was amazing VFM..
Local indy looks after it, costing no more to run (other than a little bit more fuel - but surprisingly not much..) than a Passat Tdi..
Tried a few of these, decided that the 2 door looked way better..
And that the 630i Sport, Manual was the right one for me.
It's simply a really nice thing to be in, drives well, handles ok (it's only a ton and a half..) comfy & quiet, and the straight six with a 6spd on the back of it is spot on.
It's not fast, but it's plenty brisk enough, and it was amazing VFM..
Local indy looks after it, costing no more to run (other than a little bit more fuel - but surprisingly not much..) than a Passat Tdi..
130R said:
ll full M cars are significantly sharper to drive than the normal car. If you drove a 640d and M6 back-to-back you would definitely notice the chassis improvements in any kind of spirited driving.
The differences between these and the underlying model are far more extensive than most people assume. The engine, transmission, differential, [hydraulic] steering, brakes, suspension are all substantially different for the M5/6. It’s a little more than a bigger turbo and a remap.My F10 M5 as the cheaper but mechanically identical sibling to this has been the perfect daily in many ways. I’ve done 124k miles in my ownership since new and all I would really like to replace it with is an F90. Very impressive thing indeed, for the money, on any objective level.
I don’t know why they attract so much hate either.
Personally I detect something wrong with the design of the gran coupe around the back doors and roofline. It looks artificially stretched and not totally happy from lots of angles.
I’ll appreciate I’m in the minority on that and since it’s subjective I make the point only for interest.
What I’m posting to say is that I have spent a lot of time in and around the F10 M5 myself (hence the relevance to the 6GC) and for what it is - a thundering saloon car with tonnes of comfort, room and enormous performance I just can’t see what the criticism is! Surely you don’t buy a car like this expecting it to be as nimble as an M3 or whatever?
Tellingly, like the poster above, my pal who owns the F10 is only interested to replace with the new one - he’s “sold” on the concept totally.
I’ll appreciate I’m in the minority on that and since it’s subjective I make the point only for interest.
What I’m posting to say is that I have spent a lot of time in and around the F10 M5 myself (hence the relevance to the 6GC) and for what it is - a thundering saloon car with tonnes of comfort, room and enormous performance I just can’t see what the criticism is! Surely you don’t buy a car like this expecting it to be as nimble as an M3 or whatever?
Tellingly, like the poster above, my pal who owns the F10 is only interested to replace with the new one - he’s “sold” on the concept totally.
theboss said:
The differences between these and the underlying model are far more extensive than most people assume. The engine, transmission, differential, [hydraulic] steering, brakes, suspension are all substantially different for the M5/6. It’s a little more than a bigger turbo and a remap.
My F10 M5 as the cheaper but mechanically identical sibling to this has been the perfect daily in many ways. I’ve done 124k miles in my ownership since new and all I would really like to replace it with is an F90. Very impressive thing indeed, for the money, on any objective level.
I don’t know why they attract so much hate either.
It's PH they hate just about everything, in the real world an M5 or M6 are well received and fantastic cars, on PH you get people with empty garages slating cars they have never driven but TBH they do it to just about every car. My F10 M5 as the cheaper but mechanically identical sibling to this has been the perfect daily in many ways. I’ve done 124k miles in my ownership since new and all I would really like to replace it with is an F90. Very impressive thing indeed, for the money, on any objective level.
I don’t know why they attract so much hate either.
theboss said:
130R said:
ll full M cars are significantly sharper to drive than the normal car. If you drove a 640d and M6 back-to-back you would definitely notice the chassis improvements in any kind of spirited driving.
The differences between these and the underlying model are far more extensive than most people assume. The engine, transmission, differential, [hydraulic] steering, brakes, suspension are all substantially different for the M5/6. It’s a little more than a bigger turbo and a remap.My F10 M5 as the cheaper but mechanically identical sibling to this has been the perfect daily in many ways. I’ve done 124k miles in my ownership since new and all I would really like to replace it with is an F90. Very impressive thing indeed, for the money, on any objective level.
I don’t know why they attract so much hate either.
Transmittion is going to be punchier on the M6 but again from crawling in traffic the 8 speed in the 650 is nicer, suspension again is sharper on the M6 but I don't believe it can be specced with the adjustable damping so your stuck always having the sharpness. Overall the 650 seemed to offer more day to day benefits with all the zaz of the M6.
MDMetal said:
The 640d is going to be pretty different performance wise, a better comparison is the 650i vs the M6, there's I believe 0.2 sec difference in acceleration.
Transmittion is going to be punchier on the M6 but again from crawling in traffic the 8 speed in the 650 is nicer, suspension again is sharper on the M6 but I don't believe it can be specced with the adjustable damping so your stuck always having the sharpness. Overall the 650 seemed to offer more day to day benefits with all the zaz of the M6.
I haven’t driven 650i so can’t directly compare the two.Transmittion is going to be punchier on the M6 but again from crawling in traffic the 8 speed in the 650 is nicer, suspension again is sharper on the M6 but I don't believe it can be specced with the adjustable damping so your stuck always having the sharpness. Overall the 650 seemed to offer more day to day benefits with all the zaz of the M6.
Adjustable damping is standard on M5/M6.
I agree the torque converter will be smoother in certain situations although I’ve never considered the DCT difficult to live with around town.
My perception is that there wouldn’t be that great a cost difference between the two in terms of either buying or running so you may as well take the M6, I may be wrong. When driving enthusiastically the M6 will have a dimension that the softer 650i lacks. The extra power isn’t really reflected in 0-60 timings due to both being traction limited from a standing start.
I am in touch via a private group with a chap who just bought an M6GC of this vintage and mileage which detonated one week into his ownership. Fortunately having bought from a trader he could reverse the transaction but in a private buyer scenario it could have been a worst nightmare come true.
Had one of these (Competition Version) on hire for three weeks some years ago.... and yes, it is REALLY quick.. but most of the time, you still get the yellow traction control nanny light on stopping the fun and switching off on the main roads - don't think so!. Great looks though in the blue I had it in.
Now what am I in - yes laugh away, Lexus GSF! Why, well you don't see many of them, it has Bells & Whistles in terms of Kit (even now mags come out with wow statements about what the Lexus had in 2016) and also the noise is just great! Yes, M5 is faster and round a circuit better... but it's good to have something different and its more capable than you think .
M6 Gran Coupe is a great looker though.... it's a same the current set up of with BMW is only M5, the grand coupe with current engine & 4 wheel drive... now that would be cool !
Now what am I in - yes laugh away, Lexus GSF! Why, well you don't see many of them, it has Bells & Whistles in terms of Kit (even now mags come out with wow statements about what the Lexus had in 2016) and also the noise is just great! Yes, M5 is faster and round a circuit better... but it's good to have something different and its more capable than you think .
M6 Gran Coupe is a great looker though.... it's a same the current set up of with BMW is only M5, the grand coupe with current engine & 4 wheel drive... now that would be cool !
brookers6969 said:
Had one of these (Competition Version) on hire for three weeks some years ago.... and yes, it is REALLY quick.. but most of the time, you still get the yellow traction control nanny light on stopping the fun and switching off on the main roads - don't think so!. Great looks though in the blue I had it in.
Now what am I in - yes laugh away, Lexus GSF! Why, well you don't see many of them, it has Bells & Whistles in terms of Kit (even now mags come out with wow statements about what the Lexus had in 2016) and also the noise is just great! Yes, M5 is faster and round a circuit better... but it's good to have something different and its more capable than you think .
M6 Gran Coupe is a great looker though.... it's a same the current set up of with BMW is only M5, the grand coupe with current engine & 4 wheel drive... now that would be cool !
With you on this - orange ones are fastest 😎the sound from 3,5 onwards is 🤪Now what am I in - yes laugh away, Lexus GSF! Why, well you don't see many of them, it has Bells & Whistles in terms of Kit (even now mags come out with wow statements about what the Lexus had in 2016) and also the noise is just great! Yes, M5 is faster and round a circuit better... but it's good to have something different and its more capable than you think .
M6 Gran Coupe is a great looker though.... it's a same the current set up of with BMW is only M5, the grand coupe with current engine & 4 wheel drive... now that would be cool !
Murphy16 said:
I love this generation M5/M6 but I wish they sounded good.
They can sound pretty good! https://youtu.be/TgCdlfRpHek
theboss said:
MDMetal said:
The 640d is going to be pretty different performance wise, a better comparison is the 650i vs the M6, there's I believe 0.2 sec difference in acceleration.
Transmittion is going to be punchier on the M6 but again from crawling in traffic the 8 speed in the 650 is nicer, suspension again is sharper on the M6 but I don't believe it can be specced with the adjustable damping so your stuck always having the sharpness. Overall the 650 seemed to offer more day to day benefits with all the zaz of the M6.
I haven’t driven 650i so can’t directly compare the two.Transmittion is going to be punchier on the M6 but again from crawling in traffic the 8 speed in the 650 is nicer, suspension again is sharper on the M6 but I don't believe it can be specced with the adjustable damping so your stuck always having the sharpness. Overall the 650 seemed to offer more day to day benefits with all the zaz of the M6.
Adjustable damping is standard on M5/M6.
I agree the torque converter will be smoother in certain situations although I’ve never considered the DCT difficult to live with around town.
My perception is that there wouldn’t be that great a cost difference between the two in terms of either buying or running so you may as well take the M6, I may be wrong. When driving enthusiastically the M6 will have a dimension that the softer 650i lacks. The extra power isn’t really reflected in 0-60 timings due to both being traction limited from a standing start.
I am in touch via a private group with a chap who just bought an M6GC of this vintage and mileage which detonated one week into his ownership. Fortunately having bought from a trader he could reverse the transaction but in a private buyer scenario it could have been a worst nightmare come true.
I decided the M6 maintenance costs after reading several stories and the fact the 650 I'd found was rarer and had every option I needed was the better deal but that's just me.
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