RE: Shed of the Week | Peugeot 306 XSi
Discussion
asimmalik said:
As others have stated, the quoted 0-60 figures for these and the GTi6 were way off the mark. XSi is more like mid 8s. And having timed both my GTi6 and Rallye with proper timing gear, they're in the low 7s at worst.
Fairly light weight and close ratios once into second gear from the 6 speed box made sure of some pretty rapid acceleration. My GTi6 still feels quick even today.
The level of excitement offered by a light car with decent amount of power simply cannot be matched by modern hyper hatches. Driving fast in straight lines soon gets rather boring.
Yes, EVO managed a ,time in the high 6s for the Rallye tested in dry conditionsFairly light weight and close ratios once into second gear from the 6 speed box made sure of some pretty rapid acceleration. My GTi6 still feels quick even today.
The level of excitement offered by a light car with decent amount of power simply cannot be matched by modern hyper hatches. Driving fast in straight lines soon gets rather boring.
Autocar’s times for the Rallye and GTI-6 were both hampered by being tested in damp/wet conditions so were up in the high 7s ( 7.8/7.9 )
Peugeot were quite reserved with their claims and stated a Gti-6 sprint to 60 in 8.5 in the brochure
The original XSI (123bhp version) turned in a 9.8 timed run tested in wet conditions and maxed out just shy of 120.
When the more powerful XSi with an extra 12bhp was released a few years later I don’t think Autocar re-figured it and just used the brochure time of 10.4 seconds which is maybe where the article quotes from.
Performance Car mag did crunch the numbers on ithe article featured 135bhp version with some timings in a group test and managed 60 in 8.5 - echoing what many are saying
Edited by s m on Saturday 21st September 18:59
We had some of these on our company fleet when they were new and they were great to drive, years later I had a Rallye and then a Gti-6 but I still remember the xsi as being good fun.
The 306 is still a good looking car today the review posted above with the photos of its rivals when new show just how well the 306 has aged - just look how old fashioned it’s rivals look now!
The 306 is still a good looking car today the review posted above with the photos of its rivals when new show just how well the 306 has aged - just look how old fashioned it’s rivals look now!
I have fond memories of my 306, though it was only a 1.4 petrol in poverty spec (wind up windows, no central locking...)
It had the remarkable trick of a comfy ride yet go kart like handling. Not a combination I've found on any of my cars since.
The only problem was it was designed by engineers who obviously hated the mechanics that had to service the car. For example, the bleed point for the cooling system was higher than the filler cap so you had to rig up a header tank (and get the engine up to temp) to fill it.
It had the remarkable trick of a comfy ride yet go kart like handling. Not a combination I've found on any of my cars since.
The only problem was it was designed by engineers who obviously hated the mechanics that had to service the car. For example, the bleed point for the cooling system was higher than the filler cap so you had to rig up a header tank (and get the engine up to temp) to fill it.
I heard that some Ford executives in the 90's had a go in a 306 at some event and then had a go in an Escort, and they were so shocked at just how much better the 306 was that they decided to do something about the Escort. Not sure if it's true or not, but I like the idea that it is.
aaron_2000 said:
I heard that some Ford executives in the 90's had a go in a 306 at some event and then had a go in an Escort, and they were so shocked at just how much better the 306 was that they decided to do something about the Escort. Not sure if it's true or not, but I like the idea that it is.
Yeah, they probably thought let's kill the Escort and design the mk1 Focus.
I had one from 30,000 to 155,000 miles and it was awesome.
I decided to take mine to Skip Brown Engines (The then PUG specialist) for a tune up and the difference was like absolute night and day, the 2K bill, not so much. Whichever way you slice it the XSi was awesome. When it went, it went with at least 2 inches of receipts and every bill it ever encountered.
I decided to take mine to Skip Brown Engines (The then PUG specialist) for a tune up and the difference was like absolute night and day, the 2K bill, not so much. Whichever way you slice it the XSi was awesome. When it went, it went with at least 2 inches of receipts and every bill it ever encountered.
Pommy said:
172 said:
SidewaysSi said:
172 said:
Decent shed.
The cooking model I drove handled well.
Does anyone know if the estate is the same?
Isn't the XSI the cooking model? Or do you mean the raw one?The cooking model I drove handled well.
Does anyone know if the estate is the same?
All the rest is because there are two camps when it comes to defining what ‘cooking model’ refers to. Although personally I’ve always taken it to mean ‘most basic’ as in ‘cooking wine’.
Lovely. These things exhibit impeccable steering, handling and ride quality. The seats are also mounted low and are fantastically plush. Not quick now, but pretty tasty by the standards of the day. So much feel in the perfectly weighted steering that today’s generation would probably think something was broken or both front tyres were punctured.
I could never own one now, but back in the day they were a true delight. Mine had a busted idle control valve that meant I had to left foot brake while staying on part throttle until the engine was warm. Oh and a clutch pedal to embarrass Jeoff Capes, but I recall this was due to a creaking cable.
Fond memories. Wouldn’t swap for a modern car, but if the opportunity ever arose to drive one again I would relish it.
I could never own one now, but back in the day they were a true delight. Mine had a busted idle control valve that meant I had to left foot brake while staying on part throttle until the engine was warm. Oh and a clutch pedal to embarrass Jeoff Capes, but I recall this was due to a creaking cable.
Fond memories. Wouldn’t swap for a modern car, but if the opportunity ever arose to drive one again I would relish it.
InfoRetrieval said:
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For example, the bleed point for the cooling system was higher than the filler cap so you had to rig up a header tank (and get the engine up to temp) to fill it.
Was also true of the 106 XSi (and I'm sure others). I remember cobbling together something out of a 2 litre Coke bottle, an old exhaust mounting rubber and half a roll of Gaffa tape For example, the bleed point for the cooling system was higher than the filler cap so you had to rig up a header tank (and get the engine up to temp) to fill it.
I've just done that job on Sarah's Vtr. The trick is to fill the system then get it up to temp and carefully bleed the system through the bleed point. As the name suggests it traps air at the top and is just like bleeding a household radiator. Takes seconds.
On the 306 front it's just had a full service, still spick and span underneath.
On the 306 front it's just had a full service, still spick and span underneath.
Gad-Westy said:
Pommy said:
172 said:
SidewaysSi said:
172 said:
Decent shed.
The cooking model I drove handled well.
Does anyone know if the estate is the same?
Isn't the XSI the cooking model? Or do you mean the raw one?The cooking model I drove handled well.
Does anyone know if the estate is the same?
All the rest is because there are two camps when it comes to defining what ‘cooking model’ refers to. Although personally I’ve always taken it to mean ‘most basic’ as in ‘cooking wine’.
Had an Egyptian Red Cabrio with Black Leather, 2.0 16V SE I think, from new, it was an S Reg I recall and the facelifted Gen 2. Fabulous car, totally reliable apart from a loose door card, handled and went extremely well for the day. Looked lovely too - I got so many positive comments about that car.
Just like the stock image below, days before digital cameras were ubiquitous, so I've only got Polaroids..
Just like the stock image below, days before digital cameras were ubiquitous, so I've only got Polaroids..
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