RE: Land Rover Wolf | Spotted
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Macboy said:
Reciprocating mass said:
The barracks I worked at for 10 years most of the rolling stock just sat outside hardly ever used, untill it was due
It’s 6 ,12 or 24 monthly inspections and maintenance so yes I can see it only having done those miles
And wolf stands for wheel on left flank for anyone interested that didn’t already no
Hate to burst your bubble if you are being serious but it doesn’t mean that at all. All LR projects were named after animals - Eagle, Falcon, Jay (the bird was Discovery) Kestrel etc etc and Wolf was the project name in 1991/2 for the vehicle to meet the new Military Defender contract. It’s 6 ,12 or 24 monthly inspections and maintenance so yes I can see it only having done those miles
And wolf stands for wheel on left flank for anyone interested that didn’t already no
Macboy said:
Reciprocating mass said:
The barracks I worked at for 10 years most of the rolling stock just sat outside hardly ever used, untill it was due
It’s 6 ,12 or 24 monthly inspections and maintenance so yes I can see it only having done those miles
And wolf stands for wheel on left flank for anyone interested that didn’t already no
Hate to burst your bubble if you are being serious but it doesn’t mean that at all. All LR projects were named after animals - Eagle, Falcon, Jay (the bird was Discovery) Kestrel etc etc and Wolf was the project name in 1991/2 for the vehicle to meet the new Military Defender contract. It’s 6 ,12 or 24 monthly inspections and maintenance so yes I can see it only having done those miles
And wolf stands for wheel on left flank for anyone interested that didn’t already no
These are regularly available through Brightwells Car Auctions who have the MOD contract.
https://www.brightwells.com/4x4s-cars-vans/
https://www.brightwells.com/4x4s-cars-vans/
Was about to say because when we first got them the spare was bonnet mounted. They weren't side mounted till it was noticed that the weight of the wheel on those thin bonnets just squashed everything underneath after a few days of off roading! Also extremely exciting bit was the initial lack of a speed adaptive power steering system that stopped the wheels responding to steering imputs at the same rate, beit 10mph or 100mph! Fecking hilarious that was.
right where shall i start.....
As mentioned earlier in the thread the term Wolf refers to its project code name within Land Rover.
The car in question is a Defender XD 90 GS. The military designation is Truck, Utility, Light (TUL) and is available in both hard and soft top variants.
The 110 variant was known as a Truck Utility Medium (TUM), and the Battlefield Ambulance (BFA) had the internal code name PULSE.
This Defender XD model has never been made available for sale to the general public nor was it Homoligated. Each XD has to be put through an IVA/SVA prior to registration in the UK.
The cars differ greatly from the earlier mil-spec models supplied to the UK MoD and other countries. The chassis was a heavy duty version with an extra subframe over the rear section and the axle casings are gusseted. the differentials are of the later 4 pin type and they were fitted with a 300tdi engine and R380 gearbox. The electrics are all 24vdc which enabled them to be able to start and be started by other military vehicles both armoured and soft skin (to convert one to 12v would take some time and effort).
The body work is largely as per its civilian counterparts but with the addition of a substantially different set of hood sticks/roll over frame (which initially was not an actual structural rollcage, this was a later modification) which supported both the soft top and the hardtop. Originally the 90 had two bench seats in the rear with seating for x4 persons (max) and the 110 had seating for x8 persons (max) depending on variant (GS/FFR/WW/etc).
With the introduction of the BOWMAN communications system it was deemed that the XD 90's had insufficient load carrying capacity and were no longer suitable for the FFR role and many were de-roled to a GS specification and/or disposed of.
On a personal note, it is my opinion that the XD models are the best defenders ever produced by LR. My personal favourite is the winterised and waterproofed version. I was told that when the MoD purchased the fleet each base spec GS XD 90 cost £21k and the GS XD 110 cost £23k.
The winterisation and waterproofing mods cost a further £13k worth of work which was done by an outside contractor. This involved moving parts of the dashboard and fitting of a different wiring harness and electrical components that were capable of being fully immersed in water. The winterisation involved the fitting of a webasto fuel burning heater to the engine bay and radiators inside the cabin space along with thermal linings to the hard and softtops (which also differed, the hard tops had an early discovery/defender sunroof panel fitted as an escape hatch and the soft tops had a zip which allowed it to be rolled forward during amphibious landings).
There is much more to these vehicles than just a few bolt on bits. The WMIK (weapons mounting installation kit) vehicles are a whole different ballgame. Some of those went through major rework and received auto gearboxes, upgraded locking differentials, and special suspension and were not necessarily built by LR or indeed started out life as complete vehicles!
As mentioned earlier in the thread the term Wolf refers to its project code name within Land Rover.
The car in question is a Defender XD 90 GS. The military designation is Truck, Utility, Light (TUL) and is available in both hard and soft top variants.
The 110 variant was known as a Truck Utility Medium (TUM), and the Battlefield Ambulance (BFA) had the internal code name PULSE.
This Defender XD model has never been made available for sale to the general public nor was it Homoligated. Each XD has to be put through an IVA/SVA prior to registration in the UK.
The cars differ greatly from the earlier mil-spec models supplied to the UK MoD and other countries. The chassis was a heavy duty version with an extra subframe over the rear section and the axle casings are gusseted. the differentials are of the later 4 pin type and they were fitted with a 300tdi engine and R380 gearbox. The electrics are all 24vdc which enabled them to be able to start and be started by other military vehicles both armoured and soft skin (to convert one to 12v would take some time and effort).
The body work is largely as per its civilian counterparts but with the addition of a substantially different set of hood sticks/roll over frame (which initially was not an actual structural rollcage, this was a later modification) which supported both the soft top and the hardtop. Originally the 90 had two bench seats in the rear with seating for x4 persons (max) and the 110 had seating for x8 persons (max) depending on variant (GS/FFR/WW/etc).
With the introduction of the BOWMAN communications system it was deemed that the XD 90's had insufficient load carrying capacity and were no longer suitable for the FFR role and many were de-roled to a GS specification and/or disposed of.
On a personal note, it is my opinion that the XD models are the best defenders ever produced by LR. My personal favourite is the winterised and waterproofed version. I was told that when the MoD purchased the fleet each base spec GS XD 90 cost £21k and the GS XD 110 cost £23k.
The winterisation and waterproofing mods cost a further £13k worth of work which was done by an outside contractor. This involved moving parts of the dashboard and fitting of a different wiring harness and electrical components that were capable of being fully immersed in water. The winterisation involved the fitting of a webasto fuel burning heater to the engine bay and radiators inside the cabin space along with thermal linings to the hard and softtops (which also differed, the hard tops had an early discovery/defender sunroof panel fitted as an escape hatch and the soft tops had a zip which allowed it to be rolled forward during amphibious landings).
There is much more to these vehicles than just a few bolt on bits. The WMIK (weapons mounting installation kit) vehicles are a whole different ballgame. Some of those went through major rework and received auto gearboxes, upgraded locking differentials, and special suspension and were not necessarily built by LR or indeed started out life as complete vehicles!
king rock star at the annual war and peace events!!As mentioned earlier in the thread the term Wolf refers to its project code name within Land Rover.
The car in question is a Defender XD 90 GS. The military designation is Truck, Utility, Light (TUL) and is available in both hard and soft top variants.
The 110 variant was known as a Truck Utility Medium (TUM), and the Battlefield Ambulance (BFA) had the internal code name PULSE.
I have a BFA
This Defender XD model has never been made available for sale to the general public nor was it Homoligated. Each XD has to be put through an IVA/SVA prior to registration in the UK.
er no. I know a few all have just registered them with dvla
The cars differ greatlyx. The electrics are all 24vdc which enabled them to be able to start and be started by other military vehicles both armoured and soft skin (to convert one to 12v would take some time and effort).
just bolt on bits, mine took a couple of days,
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E-B said:
right where shall i start..... Interesting Landie stuff ......
I found out some info on my ex-MoD 90 from Merlin - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/foi-res...Mine was a TRUCK UTY LIGHT FFR PLAIN HARD TOP 12/24V 4X4 LHD LAND ROVER 90 (DSL). What would the DSL stand for ?
'Rarely Available upgraded REMUS RHD Land Rover Wolf 90 300Tdi Soft Top'
Current bid is £9k and it comes with an MOT. Auction has 3hrs left as of time of this post.
https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalog...
https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalog...
Current bid is £9k and it comes with an MOT. Auction has 3hrs left as of time of this post.
https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalog...
https://www.bidspotter.co.uk/en-gb/auction-catalog...
Edited by Hellbound on Tuesday 24th September 16:40
My dad nearly bought an ex army Land-Rover Series II FFR (fitted for radio) back in the early 70s. He was put off by the 24v electrical system, the 'armoured' wiring (presumably insulation to prevent radio interference) and the HUUUGE dynamo needed to power the electrics. They used to be left running all day too for the same reason, which wasn't terribly good for them (all military Landies were petrol back then).
I'd have said 60k on the clock was pretty high for an MOD Land Rover, although it depends on what it was used for.
I'd have said 60k on the clock was pretty high for an MOD Land Rover, although it depends on what it was used for.
warch said:
My dad nearly bought an ex army Land-Rover Series II FFR (fitted for radio) back in the early 70s. He was put off by the 24v electrical system, the 'armoured' wiring (presumably insulation to prevent radio interference) and the HUUUGE dynamo needed to power the electrics. They used to be left running all day too for the same reason, which wasn't terribly good for them (all military Landies were petrol back then).
I'd have said 60k on the clock was pretty high for an MOD Land Rover, although it depends on what it was used for.
Ooh, 50 * unissued NATO 20litre Jerry cans, @300 for the pallet of 50, so 6 quid a pop. Groupbuy?I'd have said 60k on the clock was pretty high for an MOD Land Rover, although it depends on what it was used for.
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