RE: Porsche Taycan | Driven

[loudlashadjuster]

theholygrail said:

Teddington is in Middlesex not Surrey. You'd think PH would know this, given that's where they're based, AFAIK!

What, the Middlesex that doesn't exist any more?

It's in the London Borough of Richmond, innit? Which used to be part of Surrey, so I suppose both are equally incorrect

[J4CKO]

If Porsche can produce something like this on their first go at an EV then it bodes well for the future.

Yes its heavy, but then so is a Panamera, I keep harping on about the batteries in development at the moment but assuming they come to fruition, and I believe they will then the next Taycan will be significantly lighter.

I think people are getting over the acceleration aspect, it is just a function of how electric motors work, its not a massive engineering challenge to give it that level of acceleration versus doing the same in an ICE car with gears, torque curves and the thorny issue of getting into said torque and introducing it to the drivetrain.

Ten years down the line, this is going to look very outmoded, Porsche arent known for resting on their laurels (except 911 styling to a point)

[g4ry13]

I don't care how impressive this car is, that thing is ugly!

[E65Ross]

Augustus Windsock said:

When I see this;

I can’t help but see this;

I'm not sure why, they don't look remotely similar.

[cookie1600]

E65Ross said:

I'm not sure why, they don't look remotely similar.

To you...

Equally as odd and obscure, I thought this:



You'll no doubt feel I'm just as sight-impaired as the other poster.

[u9ge]

I had someone explain their lack of range anxiety as to look at an EV as having a full tank of petrol every time you take it from your house. I'd definitely take this option with the occasional fast charge over the faff of needing fill up at random intervals and detours to do so especially when the wife has left the car empty.

[DonkeyApple]

Maybe it’ll just be bought by people who simply never have to do massive, long journeys?

[glencooley]

T1berious said:

Not sure Tesla would want to share their usp charging network with a direct competitor. I mean, they had to invest in that charging network.

To be fair and I am not a Tesla/Musk fan, they shared a hell of a lot of patents to encourage EV adoption and their stated goal was to accelerate EV production not own the EV market.

[cookie1600]

u9ge said:

I'd definitely take this option with the occasional fast charge over the faff of needing fill up at random intervals and detours to do so especially when the wife has left the car empty.

But if your wife forgets to fill or top up a car with Jurassic juice, is she more likely to charge an EV for you then? It's the same logic, only there are far far fewer places to charge on a longer route than put fuel in an ICE car and it will inevitably use up more of your day doing so. Charge at home, go into town, come back and stick it on charge again. Magic.

To my mind, EV cars are mostly town run-abouts currently because infrastructure hasn't caught up with the way a lot of people have to live their lives. I see this as a starting block, a development base for Porsche and possibly a talking point at the golf club or high-end gym with ones chums.

[glencooley]

cookie1600 said:

But if your wife forgets to fill or top up a car with Jurassic juice, is she more likely to charge an EV for you then? It's the same logic, only there are far far fewer places to charge on a longer route than put fuel in an ICE car and it will inevitably use up more of your day doing so. Charge at home, go into town, come back and stick it on charge again. Magic.

To my mind, EV cars are mostly town run-abouts currently because infrastructure hasn't caught up with the way a lot of people have to live their lives. I see this as a starting block, a development base for Porsche and possibly a talking point at the golf club or high-end gym with ones chums.

Wireless charging and solar freaking roadways are the answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU

[cookie1600]

glencooley said:

Wireless charging and solar freaking roadways are the answer

You can't even get the local authority to fill in basic potholes. They'd keel over at the thought of trying to do that.

[Dave Hedgehog]

great, another £20 to be sacrificed to the lotto gods in an attempt to get one lol

[DaveTheRave87]

SniffPetrol.com said:

[glencooley]

cookie1600 said:

You can't even get the local authority to fill in basic potholes. They'd keel over at the thought of trying to do that.

Not that it bothers me, I will be looking down from my autonomous electric quad copter trying not worry about hitting another one, 100ft in the air......

[Talksteer]

cookie1600 said:

u9ge said:

I'd definitely take this option with the occasional fast charge over the faff of needing fill up at random intervals and detours to do so especially when the wife has left the car empty.

But if your wife forgets to fill or top up a car with Jurassic juice, is she more likely to charge an EV for you then? It's the same logic, only there are far far fewer places to charge on a longer route than put fuel in an ICE car and it will inevitably use up more of your day doing so. Charge at home, go into town, come back and stick it on charge again. Magic.

To my mind, EV cars are mostly town run-abouts currently because infrastructure hasn't caught up with the way a lot of people have to live their lives. I see this as a starting block, a development base for Porsche and possibly a talking point at the golf club or high-end gym with ones chums.

You manage to plug your phone in every evening.

If you have a Tesla you can travel to anywhere in the UK with basically zero time penalty the chargers are on major routes, after driving 300 miles most people will be happy for a 20-30 minute break. The charging is seamlessly integrated into the nav programme.

Most cars are town run-abouts, 10,000 miles a year is only 27 miles per day.

[Talksteer]

Bo_apex said:

DonkeyApple said:

Nerdherder said:

Bo_apex said:

£138K

22 minute pee breaks

So perfect for leaky elderly folks then.
I was going to specify retired orthodontists but leakage does not discriminate on the basis of (former) profession.

Generally, it’s ideal for people who wear hats when driving. These people seem to spend hours at motorway service stations whether it is the young queuing for fast food or playing slots or the elderly stopping to complain about the queues and prices or just standing where everyone needs to pass.

and yet can still brag about their 0-60 times

It looks like Tesla has closed it's Canary Wharf showroom, not sure why.

4 charging points remain, which still seems a bit light for a high density zone

They were in the process of closing all physical stores, in the end they closed about half of them.

[otolith]

cookie1600 said:

u9ge said:

I'd definitely take this option with the occasional fast charge over the faff of needing fill up at random intervals and detours to do so especially when the wife has left the car empty.

But if your wife forgets to fill or top up a car with Jurassic juice, is she more likely to charge an EV for you then? It's the same logic, only there are far far fewer places to charge on a longer route than put fuel in an ICE car and it will inevitably use up more of your day doing so. Charge at home, go into town, come back and stick it on charge again. Magic.

To my mind, EV cars are mostly town run-abouts currently because infrastructure hasn't caught up with the way a lot of people have to live their lives. I see this as a starting block, a development base for Porsche and possibly a talking point at the golf club or high-end gym with ones chums.

Most people do almost entirely short journeys. Most of them do not use "town run-abouts" to do so. There's a minority who don't, and would regularly need route charging with the Taycan's range, but it's basically a normal car for most people's purposes - except that they plug it in at night and never have to stop for fuel.

[cookie1600]

Talksteer said:

You manage to plug your phone in every evening.

Sure, I have to. Because if I haven't been near a charging socket in a car or building, then it's running down to zero way before I get home or I'm having to carry an extra power bank if I need to use it a lot that day.

Point me towards a petrol powered smartphone, I'd buy me some of that.....

[u9ge]

glencooley said:

cookie1600 said:

But if your wife forgets to fill or top up a car with Jurassic juice, is she more likely to charge an EV for you then? It's the same logic, only there are far far fewer places to charge on a longer route than put fuel in an ICE car and it will inevitably use up more of your day doing so. Charge at home, go into town, come back and stick it on charge again. Magic.

To my mind, EV cars are mostly town run-abouts currently because infrastructure hasn't caught up with the way a lot of people have to live their lives. I see this as a starting block, a development base for Porsche and possibly a talking point at the golf club or high-end gym with ones chums.

Wireless charging and solar freaking roadways are the answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU

I much prefer this world of scariness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMM0lRfX6YI Freak the wife and kids out and still guarantee it gets charged.

[Gandahar]

cookie1600 said:

Talksteer said:

You manage to plug your phone in every evening.

Sure, I have to. Because if I haven't been near a charging socket in a car or building, then it's running down to zero way before I get home or I'm having to carry an extra power bank if I need to use it a lot that day.

Point me towards a petrol powered smartphone, I'd buy me some of that.....

How many miles do you do per day getting to work etc? Most people have a comute less than 70 miles I would say, so just charging at home, normally will deal with it all.

You're also forgetting the fact that if you or other half forgot to charge the Taycan you could then take one of your other 2 cars