RE: BMW M135i | Driven
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Good grief. Difficult to get past the looks, in fact on a personal level this is automotive genital warts, horrible to look at and sickening, I never want either....looking past those, it has a four pot so will sound the same as everything, rwd has gone so it'll be firmly going against it'd rivals. Be interesting to come back to this thread in 12-24 months and see how sales figures held up as my personal opinion is that BMW holds no special cachet to the sort of people who buy audis etc for image. BMW (.....and audis imo) are common as much now.
Lastly, Jesus Christ the looks....they are so bad it was worth mentioning twice (and about 100 other times lol).
Lastly, Jesus Christ the looks....they are so bad it was worth mentioning twice (and about 100 other times lol).
Crafty_ said:
Its a good point, I understand the F20/1 composure can be improved for little money.
Yes indeed.B14 Coilovers for me, lsd and milway camber mounts make it much nicer.
Although I would like to change coilovers.
B14s are still a little bouncy on the road at low speeds, better at higher speeds, but significantly better than stock.
GTEYE said:
I can’t really get past the looks. If it has to be a 4 pot, at least a Golf looks restrained and classy. This looks like a 2 Series Active Tourer from too many angles and the grille is just a mess.
^This. And tbh once Iread the 6 had been swapped out for a 4 pot I stopped reading.
Limpet said:
And then there’s the whole insurance headache that goes with a modified car.
What headache? I've had heavily modified cars for over 20 years and never had an insurance headache.In the current fleet I pay more for insurance on a boring diesel estate than I do on a car so modified from standard it takes a full sheet of printed A4 to list all mods, more than twice the original bhp etc.
This modified car and "headache" insurance is myth as far as I have experienced. In fact on one car i even deliberately added a performance air filter as it made the quotes cheaper, albeit this year it made it £3 more.
PorkInsider said:
Dombilano said:
I'll reserve judgement til I drive it, but I'll listen to auto journalists over someone saying gopping for the sake of easy laughs.
Right. So you're going to wait for someone else to tell you whether it looks good or not, rather than make your own mind up.Brilliant.
Who buys a civic type R for the looks? I'll let a journalist tell me how it DRIVES until I can nab a go in one. Oh, and as for my opinion on the looks, well, it's mine, so no one else should or indeed would care.
maniac886 said:
I will be replacing my M140i next year. Admittedly I do like the interior of the new M135i but that’s about it. I have been looking at the M2 but the interior is dated now compared to the new style interiors BMW have brought into the new 1,3,5,8 series models.
Its understandable, the F range interiors are what ? 7 years old now ?The M4 concept I've seen looks quite good I think, but its going to be a small fortune and I don't really want a car that big.
Crafty_ said:
Its understandable, the F range interiors are what ? 7 years old now ?
The M4 concept I've seen looks quite good I think, but its going to be a small fortune and I don't really want a car that big.
Same for me - I rarely carry passengers in my car so the 4 series is just too big. I think if the M2 interior doesn't get refreshed next year `i will probably look at Mercedes offerings as their new interiors are a step up.The M4 concept I've seen looks quite good I think, but its going to be a small fortune and I don't really want a car that big.
Dombilano said:
PorkInsider said:
Dombilano said:
I'll reserve judgement til I drive it, but I'll listen to auto journalists over someone saying gopping for the sake of easy laughs.
Right. So you're going to wait for someone else to tell you whether it looks good or not, rather than make your own mind up.Brilliant.
Unless you're busy trying to tell us that we should ignore what a car looks like and buy it anyway based on what journalists think about other things than how it looks.
But for what it's worth, I wouldn't be buying a Civic Type R either, because of how that looks.
Edited by PorkInsider on Monday 30th September 02:45
what is going on at the design department?? When do they sack Adrian?? Horrible looking little car and that comes from a multiple BMW owner.
Just compare a superclean design in red.... the longer I look at the front the more I almost have to vomit...
Just compare a superclean design in red.... the longer I look at the front the more I almost have to vomit...
Edited by Supersaloons on Monday 30th September 09:19
maniac886 said:
I will be replacing my M140i next year. Admittedly I do like the interior of the new M135i but that’s about it. I have been looking at the M2 but the interior is dated now compared to the new style interiors BMW have brought into the new 1,3,5,8 series models.
Seems a strange reason not to buy a 400 bhp, rwd, six cylinder, turbocharged, wide arched, big wheeled 2 door M car with nothing comparable available ?J4CKO said:
Seems a strange reason not to buy a 400 bhp, rwd, six cylinder, turbocharged, wide arched, big wheeled 2 door M car with nothing comparable available ?
Maybe that’s why they’ve given up on RWD / six cylinders in the 1 series? Interior design and tech is more important. Maybe I’m easily pleased, but I don’t find the interior in mine all that bad; the LCI2 dials look pretty modern and fresh to me, the pro nav is easy to use with a good display etc.
Strewth, it looks like a host of manufacturers blended into one car.
BMW grill with huge nostrils, rear 45 degree angle looks Korean and the back looks a bit 3-series estate blended with an Alfa Giulietta .
The thing for me going back, was BMW's 3 and 5 series were often a bit compromised on space due to the RWD platform and dare I say often had less 'toys' than the cheaper opposition, but the BMW had class, a definite up-step in build and normally BMW specific engines that stood out. This seems the opposite. It stands shoulder to shoulder on space, equipment etc, but could effectively be made by one of a dozen manufacturers around the world. It's a BMW but not a BMW, if that makes sense.
I'm really not buying into this one i'm afraid.
BMW grill with huge nostrils, rear 45 degree angle looks Korean and the back looks a bit 3-series estate blended with an Alfa Giulietta .
The thing for me going back, was BMW's 3 and 5 series were often a bit compromised on space due to the RWD platform and dare I say often had less 'toys' than the cheaper opposition, but the BMW had class, a definite up-step in build and normally BMW specific engines that stood out. This seems the opposite. It stands shoulder to shoulder on space, equipment etc, but could effectively be made by one of a dozen manufacturers around the world. It's a BMW but not a BMW, if that makes sense.
I'm really not buying into this one i'm afraid.
The 1 series has always looked a little awkward but this one has some very strange proportions. It appears to be somewhere between a hatch back and a people transporter. And that grille, please stop making the grille bigger and more angular BMW, it's not working.
I'm open minded about the rest of the car. Having covered many thousands of miles in an early M135i before moving to a mk7 Golf R I always much preferred the Golf. While the engine in the BMW was lovely it was really all that was worth commenting on. I felt the car could be vastly improved by spending some of the R&D engine budget on improving the chassis and steering.
I'm open minded about the rest of the car. Having covered many thousands of miles in an early M135i before moving to a mk7 Golf R I always much preferred the Golf. While the engine in the BMW was lovely it was really all that was worth commenting on. I felt the car could be vastly improved by spending some of the R&D engine budget on improving the chassis and steering.
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