RE: Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) | Spotted

[Tcooc168]

If I had the money I would definitely buy it .... I’m guessing the lucky few that does have the money isn’t worried about the power, badge, age and when we say about, it’s clearly an collectible rather than a car you’ll use ... same with the current GTR Nismo, it’s expensive because it needs to be, or else we’ll all be driving one.

[thelostboy]

For me, you can't charge collector prices if it is neither original or particularly low mileage.

That 22B, which is far more bespoke, looks a far smarter purchase. It's also relateable - WRC was far more popular over here whereas really only the R32 has significant motorsport provenance.

[SturdyHSV]

That's a great colour for a Skyline

I'd rather the 22B as well

[smartie93]

Motormatt said:

I think the price is a little toppy but these have been underappreciated for a long time. No one would question paying £120k for a 996 GT2 of a similar age and mileage. The GTR is easily as special in terms of engineering.

Having said that, I'd probably still take the Porsche though, I could never quite gel with the way the R34 looks, still prefer the R33.

www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...

I also prefer the R33. The R34 was always the ugly one to me, which I gather is not a popular opinion

I remember first seeing the R34 on Gran Turismo 2 in 1999 and thinking it just looked like a caricature, I still dont like the different sized rear lights.

Each to their own but I dont understand why these command such a premium over the rest of the lineage, the R32 is surely the one to have given its group A pedigree

[InitialDave]

smartie93 said:

Each to their own but I dont understand why these command such a premium over the rest of the lineage, the R32 is surely the one to have given its group A pedigree

There's a lot fewer R34s than other GT-R models, that may be a factor.

[TommoAE86]

smartie93 said:

I also prefer the R33. The R34 was always the ugly one to me, which I gather is not a popular opinion

I remember first seeing the R34 on Gran Turismo 2 in 1999 and thinking it just looked like a caricature, I still dont like the different sized rear lights.

Each to their own but I dont understand why these command such a premium over the rest of the lineage, the R32 is surely the one to have given its group A pedigree

Agree with you regarding the shape, I prefer R33 over all the others except maybe an R31...

I guess that R34's were the last GT-R to wear the "Skyline" badge and also were the most advanced (possibly fastest) of the lineage in addition to the rarity mentioned.

[cib24]

I guess a collector will pay what they want to pay for a R34, but aside from that at £120,000 there is a lot more capable machinery to choose from. Just to name a few recent examples:

650S
570s
991 Turbo S
991 GT3
R8 V10
Vantage
Vanquish
AMG GT or GTR
F430
458 Italia
599
RX-7, Supra and a R32/R33 and possibly an Evo as well all together - mix and match.

[gigglebug]

cib24 said:

I guess a collector will pay what they want to pay for a R34, but aside from that at £120,000 there is a lot more capable machinery to choose from. Just to name a few recent examples:

650S
570s
991 Turbo S
991 GT3
R8 V10
Vantage
Vanquish
AMG GT or GTR
F430
458 Italia
599
RX-7, Supra and a R32/R33 and possibly an Evo as well all together - mix and match.

Cars like this aren't necessarily bought on capability though, they are bought on desirability. There are plenty of classic cars that from a purely technical point of view are pretty horrendous to drive when compared to modern machinery but it doesn't stop them from being either very desirable or, in a lot of cases, very expensive. I don't think that it is really fair to use the capabilities of more modern machinery as examples to beat it with.

[Motormatt]

smartie93 said:

Motormatt said:

I think the price is a little toppy but these have been underappreciated for a long time. No one would question paying £120k for a 996 GT2 of a similar age and mileage. The GTR is easily as special in terms of engineering.

Having said that, I'd probably still take the Porsche though, I could never quite gel with the way the R34 looks, still prefer the R33.

www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/...

I also prefer the R33. The R34 was always the ugly one to me, which I gather is not a popular opinion

I remember first seeing the R34 on Gran Turismo 2 in 1999 and thinking it just looked like a caricature, I still dont like the different sized rear lights.

Each to their own but I dont understand why these command such a premium over the rest of the lineage, the R32 is surely the one to have given its group A pedigree

Agreed, i'd take an immaculate R33 in Midnight Purple with bronze Rays Volk wheels over any R34 so I could re live my Gran Turismo days!

[chelme]

thelostboy said:

For me, you can't charge collector prices if it is neither original or particularly low mileage.

That 22B, which is far more bespoke, looks a far smarter purchase. It's also relateable - WRC was far more popular over here whereas really only the R32 has significant motorsport provenance.

Whilst I think the 22B is way over priced too, I share your thinking 're originality and mileage. I think this one is more in the £65-80k bracket.

There is a saying though: you never pay too much, you might pay too soon. So if someone where to think long term, they may take a punt...£120k though...hmm

Edited by chelme on Thursday 3rd October 22:02

[Chestrockwell]

I wouldn’t necessarily say this is overpriced!

On the other side of the market, you’ve got old Sierra Cosworths also going for 80-100k and they’re not special by any stretch of the imagination. Objectively that is, just an old Ford Sierra with some go faster bits bolted on. The Nissan Skylines from the R32 to R35 we’re built from the ground up to be innovative sports cars/super cars.

I think 120k is fair considering the rarity of the car and the impact it has had on us. I imagine this car creating a lot of us petrolheads including myself back in the Gran Turismo days and when the Fast and Furious series was about street racing.

Any cossie Ford is objectively a heap of ste compared to modern cars today, a R32 Skyline isn’t, let alone the R34!

Well worth the money. If I had the funds I’d buy one

[InitialDave]

Chestrockwell said:

Any cossie Ford is objectively a heap of ste compared to modern cars today, a R32 Skyline isn’t, let alone the R34!

Well worth the money. If I had the funds I’d buy one

They're good cars, I like them. I think the £50k+ prices they're seemingly commonly going for are a bit much, but not outside of being rationalised. Double that? I'm sorry, no, they're not a 6-figure car.

[Chestrockwell]

Andy83n said:

£120k for a nigh on 20 yr old datsun that's possibly as quick as a new Golf R ?

nah

I read that a 57 year old 250 GTO Ferrari sold for 48 million dollars, a Golf R is quicker, what’s your point?

[Olivera]

Chestrockwell said:

Any cossie Ford is objectively a heap of ste compared to modern cars today, a R32 Skyline isn’t, let alone the R34!

Did a cossie owner steal your girlfriend? The 80-90k RS500s homologation cars you are referring to are actually quite special, both in terms of specific parts and a stellar competition history.

The R34 GTR? Capable, but it's the gaudy fast & furious generation of Skyline. The R32 GTR is the real legend, and like the cossie, had an excellent record in Group A.

[Chestrockwell]

Olivera said:

Chestrockwell said:

Any cossie Ford is objectively a heap of ste compared to modern cars today, a R32 Skyline isn’t, let alone the R34!

Did a cossie owner steal your girlfriend? The 80-90k RS500s homologation cars you are referring to are actually quite special, both in terms of specific parts and a stellar competition history.

The R34 GTR? Capable, but it's the gaudy fast & furious generation of Skyline. The R32 GTR is the real legend, and like the cossie, had an excellent record in Group A.

I’m not saying it’s not a special car, but the model that it is based on, is objectively a heap of ste

A cossie owner didn’t steal my girlfriend

[gigglebug]

Chestrockwell said:

On the other side of the market, you’ve got old Sierra Cosworths also going for 80-100k and they’re not special by any stretch of the imagination. Objectively that is, just an old Ford Sierra with some go faster bits bolted on.

Any cossie Ford is objectively a heap of ste compared to modern cars today, a R32 Skyline isn’t, let alone the R34!

Chestrockwell said:

I’m not saying it’s not a special car, but the model that it is based on, is objectively a heap of ste

Spot the person who didn't know what they were talking about then made a feeble effort to cover their arse.

[Niffty951]

Whey, the cheap answer to a 911 turbo. Looked like a brick, interior like a wheelie bin but who cares when it goes like a 911 turbo for half the price tag! An icon

...oh wait. How much? Why?!

[Cable]

People need to realise that these are equivalent to 911s in performance and desirability to some, and this one being a limited edition is akin to a 'GT' Porsche, and nobody bats an eyelid about those being over 100k.

Whether you agree or not, it doesn't matter, as there are plenty who do. Each to their own an all..

[gigglebug]

Cable said:

People need to realise that these are equivalent to 911s in performance and desirability to some, and this one being a limited edition is akin to a 'GT' Porsche, and nobody bats an eyelid about those being over 100k.

Whether you agree or not, it doesn't matter, as there are plenty who do. Each to their own an all..

If they think this is overpriced I wonder what they would make of a Z-tune!?

[Cable]

gigglebug said:

If they think this is overpriced I wonder what they would make of a Z-tune!?

Indeed

Though I've just stumbled on this, and if it's a legitimate 400R, then that's where my money would go. Seems way too cheap.

http://jdm-expo.com/297-400r-nismo-sale.html