Ditched Ferrari

[ericmcn]

SidewaysSi said:

Pity the poor guy. Has a Ferrari when he really should have bought a Subaru Legacy eh?

At least I won't end up in a ditch...

Eh?

[ericmcn]

Zarco said:

I'm sure you know this Eric, but 4WD does not prevent aquaplaning.

It certainly helps, I was commuting on the south east last Monday and it was wet, very wet as in torrential rain. I had the entire outside lane to myself and was not exactly plodding along. I did encounter some acquaplane but nothing that would cause me to end up in a field. RWD cars have no chance of coping in such weather

Doesn't say much about a Ferrari if it can't handle a few drops of rain.

[anonymous-user]

ericmcn said:

It certainly helps, I was commuting on the south east last Monday and it was wet, very wet as in torrential rain. I had the entire outside lane to myself and was not exactly plodding along. I did encounter some acquaplane but nothing that would cause me to end up in a field. RWD cars have no chance of coping in such weather

Doesn't say much about a Ferrari if it can't handle a few drops of rain.

Do you actually believe the st you write?

[ericmcn]

yonex said:

Do you actually believe the st you write?

The people writing st are the ones like yourself shattering the irony meter into a million pieces by saying Subaru's end up in recovery trucks, from a BMW fanboy none the less, a brand proudly stuck at the bottom of all recent reliability surveys for years now. Idiot

Plus seems you can't handle the truth I guess, must suck with owning RWD cars, I could upload a video from the commute last Monday but its getting a bit boring now however it was fun overtaking all the lesser German cars driving gently in heavy rain...

How's the leased out derv going?

Edited by ericmcn on Monday 7th October 13:02

[av185]

A Ferrari will cope no better hitting standing water at speed than a Fiesta if it has worn or inappropriate tyres.

Maybe it was fitted with Nankangs or similar st.

Never ceases to amaze me the number of folks who think all rubber is the same.

[Dave Hedgehog]

ericmcn said:

Zarco said:

I'm sure you know this Eric, but 4WD does not prevent aquaplaning.

It certainly helps, I was commuting on the south east last Monday and it was wet, very wet as in torrential rain. I had the entire outside lane to myself and was not exactly plodding along. I did encounter some acquaplane but nothing that would cause me to end up in a field. RWD cars have no chance of coping in such weather

Doesn't say much about a Ferrari if it can't handle a few drops of rain.

i must have put a million miles on the 18 4WD cars i have owned and 4WD makes sod all difference to aqua planning, weight over the front tyres, tread depth and tyre width affect aqua planning, wide tyres act like ski's, more so if all the weight of the car is in the back like a mid engined ferrari, accelerating will of course make it worse as it removes load from the front wheels as the weight shifts to the rear of the car

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 7th October 13:06

[Schermerhorn]

Pesty said:

Schermerhorn said:

A lot of people revelling in the misfortune of that Ferrari driver.

Typical salty Brit behaviour. Always classy.

Where? Not seen one post can you show me?

Read again.....

[echazfraz]

Plate spinner said:

TobyPS said:

Aquaplane speed is mostly function of tyre pressure. The predicted speed is calculated by:

9 x (square root of tyre pressure in psi)

So for 40psi it's about 57mph.

Empirical formula so based on observations by NASA.

Didn’t know that

It's a very interesting paper - lots of factors at play besides tyre pressure though.

[av185]

With an average weight driver the 430 has a 45/55 front/rear weight distribution.

[Dave Hedgehog]

av185 said:

With an average weight driver the 430 has a 45/55 front/rear weight distribution.

i bet that changes noticeably when you give it large on the loud pedal, the few mid engined cars i have driven go noticeably lighter on the front

[OverSteery]

TobyPS said:

Aquaplane speed is mostly function of tyre pressure. The predicted speed is calculated by:

9 x (square root of tyre pressure in psi)

So for 40psi it's about 57mph.

Empirical formula so based on observations by NASA.

Really? Got a reference for that? Sounds completely wrong.

Water depth, tread patter and tyre shape, road surface etc etc etc all play a part.

or do I deserve a Parrot?

[BrassMan]

OverSteery said:

TobyPS said:

Aquaplane speed is mostly function of tyre pressure. The predicted speed is calculated by:

9 x (square root of tyre pressure in psi)

So for 40psi it's about 57mph.

Empirical formula so based on observations by NASA.

Really? Got a reference for that? Sounds completely wrong.

Water depth, tread patter and tyre shape, road surface etc etc etc all play a part.

or do I deserve a Parrot?

He posted this https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.... earlier. It sounds wrong to me, too, or at least less applicable to heavily engineered radials as opposed to '60s aircraft tyres but I haven't read it yet.

[InitialDave]

Slightly stalker-ish checking of a stranger's MOT history, multiple pages of bickering, and Eric talking Subaru-related bks.

At least we won't get confused about which forum we're on.

[anonymous-user]

ericmcn said:

yonex said:

Do you actually believe the st you write?

The people writing st are the ones like yourself shattering the irony meter into a million pieces by saying Subaru's end up in recovery trucks, from a BMW fanboy none the less, a brand proudly stuck at the bottom of all recent reliability surveys for years now. Idiot

Plus seems you can't handle the truth I guess, must suck with owning RWD cars, I could upload a video from the commute last Monday but its getting a bit boring now however it was fun overtaking all the lesser German cars driving gently in heavy rain...

How's the leased out derv going?

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th October 13:02

Points and laughs at Eric

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 7th October 13:25

[Initforthemoney]

yonex said:

ericmcn said:

yonex said:

Do you actually believe the st you write?

The people writing st are the ones like yourself shattering the irony meter into a million pieces by saying Subaru's end up in recovery trucks, from a BMW fanboy none the less, a brand proudly stuck at the bottom of all recent reliability surveys for years now. Idiot

Plus seems you can't handle the truth I guess, must suck with owning RWD cars, I could upload a video from the commute last Monday but its getting a bit boring now however it was fun overtaking all the lesser German cars driving gently in heavy rain...

How's the leased out derv going?

Edited by ericmcn on Monday 7th October 13:02

Points and laughs at Eric

Edited by yonex on Monday 7th October 13:25

He is indeed, the gift that just keeps on giving.

[The Mad Monk]

Schermerhorn said:

A lot of people revelling in the misfortune of that Ferrari driver.

Typical salty Brit behaviour. Always classy.

Yeah. Very British.

I bet the Germans haven't got a word for schadenfreude.

[RobM77]

The Mad Monk said:

Schermerhorn said:

A lot of people revelling in the misfortune of that Ferrari driver.

Typical salty Brit behaviour. Always classy.

Yeah. Very British.

I bet the Germans haven't got a word for schadenfreude.

I think what Scherm meant was that Brits practise a very specific type of schadenfreude. Brits always seem jealous and bitter towards those with more money than them. Drive a nice Ferrari through an Italian town and people take photos and cheer; drive a nice Lotus through a British town and people spit in it.

[Wonderman]

The Mad Monk said:

Yeah. Very British.

I bet the Germans haven't got a word for schadenfreude.

Tekabooson tekaboo

[g3org3y]

ericmcn said:

Zarco said:

I'm sure you know this Eric, but 4WD does not prevent aquaplaning.

It certainly helps, I was commuting on the south east last Monday and it was wet, very wet as in torrential rain. I had the entire outside lane to myself and was not exactly plodding along. I did encounter some acquaplane but nothing that would cause me to end up in a field. RWD cars have no chance of coping in such weather

Doesn't say much about a Ferrari if it can't handle a few drops of rain.

Does it? Would be genuinely interested in this - same tyres, ideally same car in FWD/RWD and 4WD variants to compare resistance to aquaplaning.

[The Mad Monk]

It's early days, but so far this thread is in first place in the most "male domestic bovine animals that have been castrated and is raised for beef" written award.