Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

Play silly games racing... This is the outcome

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Jasey_

1,537 posts

124 months

Thursday 10th October
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I mean, obviously nobody here has ever had any fun with another driver, obviously never. Obviously. But deliberately swerving and knocking him off simply isn’t cricket. If he’d been killed he’d be doing time for that little trick.
A big part of deciding if you want to have fun is being able to tell if your "opponent" is a fellow enthusiast or a homicidal maniac !

The Mad Monk

5,657 posts

63 months

Thursday 10th October
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Jasey_ said:
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
I mean, obviously nobody here has ever had any fun with another driver, obviously never. Obviously. But deliberately swerving and knocking him off simply isn’t cricket. If he’d been killed he’d be doing time for that little trick.
A big part of deciding if you want to have fun is being able to tell if your "opponent" is a fellow enthusiast or a homicidal maniac !
The OP may have learnt a lesson from this incident and will modify his riding behaviour in future.

Sigh. I don't know why, but somehow I doubt it.

Hungrymc

4,153 posts

83 months

Thursday 10th October
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All the 6 of one, half a dozen of the other posters....

Are you REALLY not seeing a difference between being a bit of a dick, and deliberately causing an accident to then drive off?

Up until Civic swerved into the path of the bike, it is two people driving / riding too quickly and poorly. But after that, the Civic driver takes it up by a magnitude.

Mandalore

1,525 posts

59 months

Thursday 10th October
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Wow!

A motorcyclist riding at excessive speed and generally ignoring the law and highway code, when it suits him.



Now.. that's not something you see every day (everywhere) [/irony]


Kudos to the guy for having the balls to pretend he was doing nothing wrong on social media. laugh

The Mad Monk

5,657 posts

63 months

Thursday 10th October
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Hungrymc said:
All the 6 of one, half a dozen of the other posters....

Are you REALLY not seeing a difference between being a bit of a dick, and deliberately causing an accident to then drive off?

Up until Civic swerved into the path of the bike, it is two people driving / riding too quickly and poorly. But after that, the Civic driver takes it up by a magnitude.
Absolutely right. Spot on.

But what did Granny say when she heard you were buying a motorbike?



Hungrymc

4,153 posts

83 months

Thursday 10th October
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Anyone listened to the sound? I don’t think the bike is “having fun” or “racing” up until having short shifted into 3rd gear after the last lights. That’s the first time he uses more than about 1/4 throttle.

Now his riding was poor, he’s traveling too quickly, lane hogging, filters past a car that he knows intends to drive faster than he does (has previously past him). That all pretty poor.

The Civic driver might think he’s racing, he might just be going too fast, he might have just been arsing about. It’s poor but not a disaster .... right up until the point he deliberately causes and leaves the scene of an accident,

rxe

2,632 posts

49 months

Thursday 10th October
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coldel said:
Unfortunately both the biker and driver have the same issues, wanting to win some sort of 'im better than you' contest by speeding at stupid speeds in a reasonably built up area. Car was wrong to do that they did and should be hauled before the police, but the biker did nothing to avoid that situation escalating.

Sometimes you have to be the bigger man and just let the child drive off into the distance, in this case it was that both were of child mentality and the inevitable happened.
Applies all the time when driving. I followed a Mazda down the motorway this morning for about 30 miles - glued to the outside lane and tailgating everything that had the temerity to be in his way (whether justified or not). In summary, an utter cock.

We were both doing in the region of 90, and technically he “won” because he reached the junction about 10 seconds ahead of me. Actually I won because I just had a calm drive keeping him in sight while he took all the risk of dealing with unmarked cars.

MikeGTi

1,837 posts

147 months

Thursday 10th October
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Everything about that car screamed avoid.. so instead he decided to do the opposite..

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Eyersey1234

1,231 posts

25 months

Thursday 10th October
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No sympathy from me either. The biker wasn't riding well going way over the limit.

RobM77

32,996 posts

180 months

Thursday 10th October
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The Mad Monk said:
Hungrymc said:
All the 6 of one, half a dozen of the other posters....

Are you REALLY not seeing a difference between being a bit of a dick, and deliberately causing an accident to then drive off?

Up until Civic swerved into the path of the bike, it is two people driving / riding too quickly and poorly. But after that, the Civic driver takes it up by a magnitude.
Absolutely right. Spot on.
yes

If you're a fan of athletics, it's like the Ingebrigtsen Lemi incident last week: a bit of argy bargy from elbows and then suddenly Filip throws a punch and takes Teddese down in the middle of the race. Just because something's escalated gradually doesn't excuse the final offender.

Mandalore

1,525 posts

59 months

Thursday 10th October
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The Mad Monk said:
Hungrymc said:
All the 6 of one, half a dozen of the other posters....

Are you REALLY not seeing a difference between being a bit of a dick, and deliberately causing an accident to then drive off?

Up until Civic swerved into the path of the bike, it is two people driving / riding too quickly and poorly. But after that, the Civic driver takes it up by a magnitude.
Absolutely right. Spot on.

But what did Granny say when she heard you were buying a motorbike?
Everyone has read the same thing.







Exige77

3,861 posts

137 months

Thursday 10th October
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rxe said:
coldel said:
Unfortunately both the biker and driver have the same issues, wanting to win some sort of 'im better than you' contest by speeding at stupid speeds in a reasonably built up area. Car was wrong to do that they did and should be hauled before the police, but the biker did nothing to avoid that situation escalating.

Sometimes you have to be the bigger man and just let the child drive off into the distance, in this case it was that both were of child mentality and the inevitable happened.
Applies all the time when driving. I followed a Mazda down the motorway this morning for about 30 miles - glued to the outside lane and tailgating everything that had the temerity to be in his way (whether justified or not). In summary, an utter cock.

We were both doing in the region of 90, and technically he “won” because he reached the junction about 10 seconds ahead of me. Actually I won because I just had a calm drive keeping him in sight while he took all the risk of dealing with unmarked cars.
Careful, the anti speeding brigade will be along soon to tell you “stuff” smile

the cueball

38 posts

1 month

Thursday 10th October
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becaue this is PH...

The Hayabusa isn't a superbike... it's a hyperbike... wink

Different class to a superbike, became more common to describe the 'Busa, Blackbird and ZX12R - all the big 200mph(ish) bikes of the early 2000s.





KingNothing

2,345 posts

99 months

Thursday 10th October
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Dannbodge said:
Much like other road users with cameras, I find they go looking for trouble just so they have something "good" to post online.

Both in the wrong.
Biker should know better and most likely won't be doing it again in a hurry
Sad thing is, once he's healed and the bike is back together, he probably will, I doubt he has learned anything from this.

lost in espace

4,795 posts

153 months

Thursday 10th October
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The second you see smoking tyres I would be thinking this person doesn't actually know how to drive quickly or retain control, and back off a mile.

nunpuncher

1,330 posts

71 months

Thursday 10th October
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Hungrymc said:
Anyone listened to the sound? I don’t think the bike is “having fun” or “racing” up until having short shifted into 3rd gear after the last lights. That’s the first time he uses more than about 1/4 throttle.

Now his riding was poor, he’s traveling too quickly, lane hogging, filters past a car that he knows intends to drive faster than he does (has previously past him). That all pretty poor.

The Civic driver might think he’s racing, he might just be going too fast, he might have just been arsing about. It’s poor but not a disaster .... right up until the point he deliberately causes and leaves the scene of an accident,
This.

I think a lot of the people commenting here have never ridden a bike and possibly aren't that keen on bikers (don't blame them as they do tend to attract a high percentage of idiots due to being a cheap route to hypercar speeds). The biker only seems to give it some beans well after the second set of lights, even then it wasn't full on and he could easily have smoked the civic even right after the wheel spin effort. Why he did so I have no idea but as someone else detailed he'd already made several bad riding decisions.

You have to ask. Would the civic have made the same move had that been a faster car that came up in the right hand lane? I very much doubt it. Deliberately swerving in to the path of a bike like that can only really be viewed as attempted murder.

FiF

35,905 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th October
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lost in espace said:
The second you see smoking tyres I would be thinking this person doesn't actually know how to drive quickly or retain control, and back off a mile.
Let's face it the Civic was outdragged the first few yards by the whatever it was in the left hand lane. Clearly a piss poor driver intent on something. Avoid.

The early riding when the biker had to apply restraint due to traffic ahead and merging was fair enough, felt a little bit quick but nothing to write home about.

The first filter to the front, ok but again perhaps a bit sharp.

Got away ok from first set of lights, now why would anyone sensible on a bike stop out in lane 2 going well over limit in a lane shared with tram tracks. Complete speculation on my part but my guess is the Civic was preventing a return to lane 1, either racing or just playing silly buggers. Maybe he objected to the filter? Who knows but that should have been a signal.

Assuming my speculation is correct, at that point the biker had the moral high ground ignoring any over permitted speed limit issues. Big mistake was not thinking better the enemy in front, let him go.

Second filter next mistake, next ignoring the little tyre burning false start, next ignoring the utterly crap wheel spinning launch, and next seeing red and trying to win the Ridgeway Road Races.

None of which excuses the deliberate block to the right by the Civic which was the primary cause, but by then all moral high ground had been lost and it was just a matter of when cocks collide. Furthermore not helped his cause by posting it on innocent hard done to on Faceache, shows amazing lack of self awareness. Both driving well below the standard of a careful and prudent driver sufficiently to be classed as dangerous. Whether both get identical sentences will depend on details, but they both need to be on the bus for a while, or the tram, whichever.

Exige77

3,861 posts

137 months

Thursday 10th October
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FiF said:
lost in espace said:
The second you see smoking tyres I would be thinking this person doesn't actually know how to drive quickly or retain control, and back off a mile.
Let's face it the Civic was outdragged the first few yards by the whatever it was in the left hand lane. Clearly a piss poor driver intent on something. Avoid.

The early riding when the biker had to apply restraint due to traffic ahead and merging was fair enough, felt a little bit quick but nothing to write home about.

The first filter to the front, ok but again perhaps a bit sharp.

Got away ok from first set of lights, now why would anyone sensible on a bike stop out in lane 2 going well over limit in a lane shared with tram tracks. Complete speculation on my part but my guess is the Civic was preventing a return to lane 1, either racing or just playing silly buggers. Maybe he objected to the filter? Who knows but that should have been a signal.

Assuming my speculation is correct, at that point the biker had the moral high ground ignoring any over permitted speed limit issues. Big mistake was not thinking better the enemy in front, let him go.

Second filter next mistake, next ignoring the little tyre burning false start, next ignoring the utterly crap wheel spinning launch, and next seeing red and trying to win the Ridgeway Road Races.

None of which excuses the deliberate block to the right by the Civic which was the primary cause, but by then all moral high ground had been lost and it was just a matter of when cocks collide. Furthermore not helped his cause by posting it on innocent hard done to on Faceache, shows amazing lack of self awareness. Both driving well below the standard of a careful and prudent driver sufficiently to be classed as dangerous. Whether both get identical sentences will depend on details, but they both need to be on the bus for a while, or the tram, whichever.
Or crutches ?

janesmith1950

3,812 posts

41 months

Thursday 10th October
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Too much testosterone. It's a ring road rather than Road America, no prizes for coming first. The whole thing was the coming together of two numpties. Hopefully if either feel the weight of the law they both will, to some degree.

FiF

35,905 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th October
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Exige77 said:
Or crutches ?
Well no, no one deserves to be on crutches, no one. Though considering that when it goes wrong on bikes it hurts it always amazes me where individuals seem to deliberately put themselves in positions of unnecessarily high risk just to potentially save fractions of a second.