RE: Audi SQ8 | Driven

[moldy]

Kenny Powers said:

moldy said:

Whilst I’m at it why don’t we all just where the same clothes , shoes , live in the same houses , same furniture, hairstyles blah blah blah !!!

Come on guys we are all supposed to be petrol heads whether it be a Kia or a Bentley let’s discuss them but why the hatred !!!

Each to their own , we are literally spoilt For choice , that’s got to be a good thing surely!!

Oh come on. You can't beat a good performance SUV discussion for weeding out the terminally insecure

I know, I’m mad at myself to be honest for getting wound up !!

[pb8g09]

Honeywell said:

I’m all for diversity but £100k on a car that’s highly compromised as an off-roader and highly compromised as a family car and highly compromised as a sporty drivers car just makes no sense to me. You could get a 7 seat Landrover Discovery which really is practical and good off road plus a BMW 530d Touring which is really premium and brilliant to drive and just as fast. Surely if you are in a position to drop six figures on a car you’re not living in a house with a pokey driveway for only one car?

But what if you only have one parking space outside your home and want a car that has ground clearance to get out of the sloped driveway, have a family, a dog, want it to be quick and you don’t care about the price because you have the money? Cars like this then start to make more sense.

[gigglebug]

Honeywell said:

I’m all for diversity but £100k on a car that’s highly compromised as an off-roader and highly compromised as a family car and highly compromised as a sporty drivers car just makes no sense to me. You could get a 7 seat Landrover Discovery which really is practical and good off road plus a BMW 530d Touring which is really premium and brilliant to drive and just as fast. Surely if you are in a position to drop six figures on a car you’re not living in a house with a pokey driveway for only one car?

Like I've said I can personally see the merit of having a garage in which specific cars serve specific roles but it doesn't mean that I would expect anyone else to follow that example. There is nothing wrong with Jack of all trade vehicles so long as none of the compromises present restrict the owner from carrying out the tasks that they need it for.

It doesn't have to be able to traverse an assault course for it to be absolutely relevant. It doesn't have to be able to handle like a dedicated sports car for it be absolutely relevant. It doesn't have to be 100% as practical as an equivalent estate car for it be absolutely relevant. So long as it offers enough of the above to satisfy those who are going to buy it, and what they intend to use if for, it will be relevant to them regardless of any of our feelings towards it.

Conversely there are those that would argue against the need for an individual to have three different vehicles, and the environmental impact of producing them, just for sake of covering three specific roles when none are used absolutely to their full potential anyway and when a single vehicle could provide enough to satisfy their needs within each discipline.

I'm not one of those either thankfully.

[bigblock]

pb8g09 said:

But what if you only have one parking space outside your home and want a car that has ground clearance to get out of the sloped driveway, have a family, a dog, want it to be quick and you don’t care about the price because you have the money? Cars like this then start to make more sense.

That's why for me they make sense.

Today in my big fat planet killing Porsche Cayenne I picked up four colleagues and drove to a business meeting. Later in the day on one of my favourite roads I put it in sport mode and had some fun on my way home from work. I then put the dogs in the back and drove to the beach for a walk and in the evening hitched up the trailer and dropped off two tons of firewood for a friend at the end of a farm track. That's quite a versatile car and apparently it can also do the school run !

[Wills2]

moldy said:

Whilst I’m at it why don’t we all just where the same clothes , shoes , live in the same houses , same furniture, hairstyles blah blah blah !!!

Come on guys we are all supposed to be petrol heads whether it be a Kia or a Bentley let’s discuss them but why the hatred !!!

Each to their own , we are literally spoilt For choice , that’s got to be a good thing surely!!

It's a GG PH thing just look at any thread that doesn't involve a crusty old shed you'd want a tetanus jab after siting in and they hate them all.....

[PhantomPH]

J4CKO said:

Sex other than for Procreation, waste of time...

Mrs PhantomPH - is that you????

[Honeywell]

bigblock said:

That's why for me they make sense.

Today in my big fat planet killing Porsche Cayenne I picked up four colleagues and drove to a business meeting. Later in the day on one of my favourite roads I put it in sport mode and had some fun on my way home from work. I then put the dogs in the back and drove to the beach for a walk and in the evening hitched up the trailer and dropped off two tons of firewood for a friend at the end of a farm track. That's quite a versatile car and apparently it can also do the school run !

See that to my mind would be far better done in a 530d for the business trip getting 43mpg in whisper quiet comfort then on the back roads you’ve got a centre of gravity a foot lower, less tramline prone tyres and really rather good steering. For the smelly wet dogs, sand and towing duties what could beat a Discovery on winter tyres and without the smells of wet dog tomorrow morning on your way to work?

Plus you’ve got a spare car to leave down the pub, lend a friend or backup your other one malfunctioning or being in an accident etc.

£100k+ on a do everything car seems v odd to me unless you really do have only one parking space.

[okenemem]

looks amazing

[eddharris]

Honeywell said:

I’m all for diversity but £100k on a car that’s highly compromised as an off-roader and highly compromised as a family car and highly compromised as a sporty drivers car just makes no sense to me. You could get a 7 seat Landrover Discovery which really is practical and good off road plus a BMW 530d Touring which is really premium and brilliant to drive and just as fast. Surely if you are in a position to drop six figures on a car you’re not living in a house with a pokey driveway for only one car?

Why did you mod or buy a modded GT86 when a proper sports car like an Elise would be better? I'm assuming the standard GT86 was somewhat compromised, right?

I love this Audi exactly because it's not any of the cars you've mentioned. Also, I've driven a similar car to this Audi with rather large wide tires up a wet grassy slope and you know what, I made it!

[unsprung]

Has got to be driven by the villain in the next Bond movie.

I mean: the entire thing looks like Darth Vader's helmet transformed into a car !!

I'll leave it to others to decide if this car is worth the price and the soft-roader pretensions. But I must say: I wouldn't mind hiring it for a matey road trip. John O' Groats to Ankara!

Edited by unsprung on Friday 11th October 00:26

[nickfrog]

Honeywell said:

See that to my mind would be far better done in a 530d for the business trip getting 43mpg in whisper quiet comfort then on the back roads you’ve got a centre of gravity a foot lower, less tramline prone tyres and really rather good steering. For the smelly wet dogs, sand and towing duties what could beat a Discovery on winter tyres and without the smells of wet dog tomorrow morning on your way to work?

Plus you’ve got a spare car to leave down the pub, lend a friend or backup your other one malfunctioning or being in an accident etc.

£100k+ on a do everything car seems v odd to me unless you really do have only one parking space.

Different people have different preferences and different budgets. £100k for some is not a lot money. I find that a 530d estate is also a high CoG car compared to a properly low CoG car and really not much fun on back roads, it's a quality barge but a barge nonetheless with little steering feel and a heavy front end that gives it a lazy turn in, which is OK for the purpose. It's really no better than the Porsche. Or as good as for the intended purpose, even with a smaller boot than the Porsche (despite being even longer...)

Edited by nickfrog on Friday 11th October 00:40

[Honeywell]

Err, the 530 Touring plus seven seat Disco is £100k of car - I’m not quibbling on the budget. I’ve got three cars, a motorbike and a lorry so am comfortably into £200k of motoring equipment. I could buy an SQ7 tomorrow my point is I’d feel daft because it’s such a compromised car. For the same money I could have two uncompromised cars covering a wider base and offering the flexibility of two cars.

Each to their own.

Oh and an Elise was out because I need two back seats for the school run and 911 or Evora were simply treble the money for more grip and more performance than was optimum to have fun. The Amp that goes to 11 is not always the best...

[PhilboSE]

Do you not understand that every single car is a compromise of some sort? The SQ7 is the wrong compromise for you but it’s the perfect one for me. The 530d Touring you love so much would be daft for me because it has compromised seating (can’t do 7), not big enough load space, no 4WD (I drive to the Alps every year) and doesn’t have the 3500kg tow capability that I use to drag a car trailer around. Do you see how this works? But I don’t write off the 530d because it’s not the right set of compromises for me, I can see that it might be just right for some people. But in terms of driving enjoyment the 530d itself is horribly compromised compared with an Elise which itself is horribly compromised for practicality.

Different cars have different sets of compromises. I have a variety of machines which are all horribly compromised in one way or another but equally are particularly good in different ways.

Personally I don’t understand your 2 car suggestion of a Discovery and a 530d. Why have 2 cars that make very similar sets of compromises? Why not have the second car something that is more fun than the rather lifeless 530d? But then again I can see that a family might have need for 2 similar cars if for example they had a young family that both parents had need to cart around.

Just because a car has a set of compromises that doesn’t suit *you* doesn’t make it invalid for other people.

[nickfrog]

Honeywell said:

Each to their own.

Agreed. Out of your £200k fleet I would have no interest in any of the vehicles for my needs yet I am sure it works really well for you.

Edited by nickfrog on Friday 11th October 08:20

[simonbamg]

Honeywell said:

Err, the 530 Touring plus seven seat Disco is £100k of car - I’m not quibbling on the budget. I’ve got three cars, a motorbike and a lorry so am comfortably into £200k of motoring equipment. I could buy an SQ7 tomorrow my point is I’d feel daft because it’s such a compromised car. For the same money I could have two uncompromised cars covering a wider base and offering the flexibility of two cars.

Each to their own.

Oh and an Elise was out because I need two back seats for the school run and 911 or Evora were simply treble the money for more grip and more performance than was optimum to have fun. The Amp that goes to 11 is not always the best...

I’m not sure you could BUY one tomorrow do you really have the funds

[gigglebug]

Thi guy is getting at tedious as Andy now. What a borefest.

[BFleming]

Harry H said:

Landrover- Short of looking at the badge on the back I'd really struggle to identify any of their range (defender excepted) apart for the two extremes of evoque and FF.
Audi - unless they're side by side I couldn't tell the difference between an SQ5/ 7 or 8
BMW- Their whole range is just bland. Saw an X3 the other day and I'd swear it's much larger than the original X5
Merc - Can never remember how their naming strategy works so don't know whether to be impressed or not.

I must be a complete minority then...
Land Rover - there is some shared styling between current models, but they're so different even I can tell the difference at first glance - and I'm not a particular fan of any of them.
Audi - the current Q5 and (when it's far away) Q7 are similar, but that's really it. The Q8 is pretty different. I dare say the eTron will only add to your own SUV confusion.
BMW - the second gen X1 threw me slightly as it was more mini-X3 than original X1. But X3 & X5 - the X5 was always a huge truck. It continues to be so.
Merc - the naming is easier than ever. Think of the equivalent Mercedes model, put a GL in front of it, and voila. GLA - baby. GLB - bigger horrible people carrier thing, GLC - bit bigger & more SUV-like. GLE - choose your parking space carefully. GLS - I'm loaded, live in Dubai and have no taste.

[J4CKO]

We do struggle with other peoples choices on here, this car is so far from what I need/want I just kind of ignore it, its as relevant to me as what the Kardashians are up to, ok

I cant afford one, not really, could probably contrive it with man maths/smoke and mirrors, but would be kidding myself.

If I ever go off road, it was probably unintentional due to a lack of skill, rather than any desire to go off road.

Just not my type of car, too big, too heavy, too flash in a predictable way that has no panache, style or originality.

These cars a bit thuggish, would feel like I had made a wedge from PPI and was looking for the next similar opportunity.

Its not a manky old MX5 or anything petrolheady, it has some petrolhead interest points, power and being fairly fast, probably quite nice to drive/be in but imagine what you could do with 104k, we had a challenge for ages for your 100k garage, guessing most wouldnt choose one of these.

So, leave it for the folk that want one, probably make a good daily for those who have other stuff and dont wan to put up with them all week.

[Paddy78]

J4CKO said:

We do struggle with other peoples choices on here, this car is so far from what I need/want I just kind of ignore it, its as relevant to me as what the Kardashians are up to, ok

I cant afford one, not really, could probably contrive it with man maths/smoke and mirrors, but would be kidding myself.

If I ever go off road, it was probably unintentional due to a lack of skill, rather than any desire to go off road.

Just not my type of car, too big, too heavy, too flash in a predictable way that has no panache, style or originality.

These cars a bit thuggish, would feel like I had made a wedge from PPI and was looking for the next similar opportunity.

Its not a manky old MX5 or anything petrolheady, it has some petrolhead interest points, power and being fairly fast, probably quite nice to drive/be in but imagine what you could do with 104k, we had a challenge for ages for your 100k garage, guessing most wouldnt choose one of these.

So, leave it for the folk that want one, probably make a good daily for those who have other stuff and dont wan to put up with them all week.

/end thread

[NSNO]

Paul_M3 said:

NSNO said:

So you buy the top the range Q8 and then you have got to pay extra for tyrre pressure monitoring which is standard on a lot of cars nowadays, that are a lot cheaper.

I think it must be a mistake.

1) I'm sure it's a mandatory EU requirement.

2) I've just gone on the configurator and can find no such option.

Maybe it is in preparation of Brexit, now we haven't got those pesky Euro bureaucrats making us have these sensible features on ours cars as standard. No thanks, we will make our own rules and pay through the nose and cut off our nose to spite our face, because we're British and no one tells us what to do.