RE: Chevrolet Corvette (C8) | Driven
Discussion
Matt Harper said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Yes please on the manual, I think it’s on the way in a few months’ time.
There was an interview in last month's Road & Track with two senior members of the C8 program design team, who stated categorically that a manual (i.e. 3 pedal) transmission was never, nor ever will be a consideration on this car.WOW, I cannot believe I said that, owning a modified manual 997 Turbo!
but maybe exactly because of that, I think these kind of powerful cars should be automatic.
I strongly believe 911 Turbo is better and more exciting and involving car with an automatic transmission.
Lighter, less powerful cars are very exciting with manual transmission though, I have E85 Z4 3.0Si convertible and I love it with manual transmission.
bobo79 said:
Schmed said:
I suppose no deal and a free trade agreement with the US so I can pick up one of these for sub £50k is too much to ask...?
It'll be subject to VAT, and in the scenario you describe, most likely another drop in the value of the pound. And any such trade deal would take a few years to negotiate, and of course, implement, too.TX.
ES335 said:
"Or heaven forbid, and sorry to burst your BBC/remoaner project fear nonsense nightmare scenario bullst but maybe we don’t all starve and stupidly high VAT taxes actually get cut as part of the subsequent economic stimulus."
Let me get this right then - in a no deal scenario, the UK (assuming it remains a united kingdom) will lose access to the EU markets on the current terms and be subject to a WTO tariff regime. There is likely to be a significant weakening of Sterling, rendering imports significantly more expensive. On the upside, UK exports become more competitive, but then the UK is predominantly a service economy, hence the US most likely wishing to have services opened up as part of any putative new trade deal.
I could go on, but the idea that there will be a combination of tax cuts and cheap 'Vettes as a consequence of a no deal Brexit is, with all due respect, (American) pie in the sky.
Basically you have no idea like the rest of us. You don't think that the UK can cope without the EU though yeah Let me get this right then - in a no deal scenario, the UK (assuming it remains a united kingdom) will lose access to the EU markets on the current terms and be subject to a WTO tariff regime. There is likely to be a significant weakening of Sterling, rendering imports significantly more expensive. On the upside, UK exports become more competitive, but then the UK is predominantly a service economy, hence the US most likely wishing to have services opened up as part of any putative new trade deal.
I could go on, but the idea that there will be a combination of tax cuts and cheap 'Vettes as a consequence of a no deal Brexit is, with all due respect, (American) pie in the sky.
TX.
Terminator X said:
ES335 said:
"Or heaven forbid, and sorry to burst your BBC/remoaner project fear nonsense nightmare scenario bullst but maybe we don’t all starve and stupidly high VAT taxes actually get cut as part of the subsequent economic stimulus."
Let me get this right then - in a no deal scenario, the UK (assuming it remains a united kingdom) will lose access to the EU markets on the current terms and be subject to a WTO tariff regime. There is likely to be a significant weakening of Sterling, rendering imports significantly more expensive. On the upside, UK exports become more competitive, but then the UK is predominantly a service economy, hence the US most likely wishing to have services opened up as part of any putative new trade deal.
I could go on, but the idea that there will be a combination of tax cuts and cheap 'Vettes as a consequence of a no deal Brexit is, with all due respect, (American) pie in the sky.
Basically you have no idea like the rest of us. You don't think that the UK can cope without the EU though yeah Let me get this right then - in a no deal scenario, the UK (assuming it remains a united kingdom) will lose access to the EU markets on the current terms and be subject to a WTO tariff regime. There is likely to be a significant weakening of Sterling, rendering imports significantly more expensive. On the upside, UK exports become more competitive, but then the UK is predominantly a service economy, hence the US most likely wishing to have services opened up as part of any putative new trade deal.
I could go on, but the idea that there will be a combination of tax cuts and cheap 'Vettes as a consequence of a no deal Brexit is, with all due respect, (American) pie in the sky.
TX.
This is interesting and goes some way to explaining the impressive performance figures,
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/10/21/motor-t...
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/10/21/motor-t...
The over-the-top figures claimed by Motor Trend on the dyno -- have been disproven.
"We know the dyno numbers are invalid for two reasons..."
article here
https://www.motor1.com/news/378121/2020-chevrolet-...
Honeywell said:
SturdyHSV said:
The LT2 isn't 'the old motor', jesus it's not a small block from the 50s.
It's not even the (hugely competent) LS.
I know it's all very hilarious persisting with the Clarksonisms but why not educate your audience a bit?
What he said.It's not even the (hugely competent) LS.
I know it's all very hilarious persisting with the Clarksonisms but why not educate your audience a bit?
With bells on.
Hark! 'tis the beast of but one camshaft
Here's an overview of the all-new LT2 engine:. . . "Chevy stresses heavily that it isn’t the LT1.2. It’s the LT2."
. . . "Chevy managed to mount it 25 mm lower than in the C7"
. . . "the dry sump system is capable of maintaining oil pressure at sustained lateral acceleration on track up to 1.25 g"
. . . "which ends up reducing tailpipe emissions by a whopping 25 percent."
article here
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/11/2020-chevy-cor...
.
Outstanding video.
80 minutes
of conversation with Corvette Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter about the new, mid-engined C8. A good number of illuminating questions and answers.video here
https://youtu.be/BBfXm1Yczdo
.
The C8 and its predecessor, the C7, have similar power-to-weight ratios. Yet the new car is significantly faster at launch -- with a 0 to 60 mph time of 2.8 seconds.
The following article examines the engineering behind this difference as well as the boon to physics of relocating the engine behind the cabin.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29821409/wh...
.
F1GTRUeno said:
The C7 looked fantastic but this just looks wrong.
It's not especially feline, is it. It's not feminine; it's masculine. It would not be out of place if parked next to an F-35 fighter jet. Personally, I think it's thrilling -- as long as I can delete that raised wing on the rear (news flash: you can).Chevrolet has received for the 2020 model year more than 37,000 reservations -- a figure that exceeds each year of Corvette production since 1985.
Vive la difference, and all that.
It's begun.
Official production of retail-ready consumer units started on Monday this week. These will be LHD vehicles for sale predominately in the US and Canada.
When will RHD units arrive in the UK?
Chevrolet have not announced UK pricing. And we are not surprised by this, as the nation has been engaged in the historic act of exiting the European Union.
According to comments posted on PH last year, including at least one made after having talked with the official UK dealership, there was an understanding that UK units may arrive up to 18 months after initial production for the US. This, therefore, would be July 2021.
This estimate of timing is corroborated to some extent by news published in Australia (here) that a C8 Corvette has arrived Down Under but, crucially, is not approved for display in dealerships until 2021. This demonstrator is a LHD car. Chevrolet have announced no price yet for Australia, either.
It's logical to assume that when the factory in Bowling Green, Kentucky switches to RHD production for the UK... It will produce all RHD units, covering all agreed RHD markets, in one series of batches.
article here
https://www.motor1.com/news/396555/chevy-corvettes...
Well I'm still prepared to wait, I think the car will have quite an impact, my last mid engined V8 a late model Esprit did have it's moments but this is what the market needs a decent priced mid engined N/A V8 car, looks like I'll have to keep my RCF for longer despite putting it up for sale.
For what it's worth, modern car factories generally build all models of a car simultaneously on the same production line - so you often see convertible, coupe, LHD, RHD, Euro, Federal, all lined up and being built one behind the other. A result of Just-In-Time working.
In the case of Corvette C8 I anticipate RHD build is a matter of "getting around to it" rather than anything more significant. It'll take them a while to satisfy the demand for mid-engine Vettes in North America. I'll be surprised if the Continent is awash with Euro C8's much before RHD markets.
In the case of Corvette C8 I anticipate RHD build is a matter of "getting around to it" rather than anything more significant. It'll take them a while to satisfy the demand for mid-engine Vettes in North America. I'll be surprised if the Continent is awash with Euro C8's much before RHD markets.
Japan on Sale Now -- £99,000
The car is for sale in Japan. For the potential C8 buyer in the UK, some of the following may be of interest:
. . . a) Japanese buyers placed 300 orders in the first 60 hours. This represents a 37 percent increase over total annual sales volume for the first year of the C7. See thumbnail below. If Chevrolet are not placing a limit on Japanese orders, this sales figure is likely to rise in the months ahead.
. . . b) The C8 to be sold in the UK (3LT with Z51 performance package) is priced in Japan at the equivalent of £99,000. The UK price has not been announced. Many on PH have guessed that the UK price will be circa £85,000 to £95,000 (and some PHers have estimated much more). The Japanese price is not too different from those figures.
. . . c) Unlike in the UK, the Japanese market offers all three trim levels of the car (eg: 1LT, 2LT, 3LT).
. . . d) Although the C8 is fully priced and on sale in Japan today, buyers will not receive cars until "the spring of 2021". This aligns with our estimated, and not official, time for UK delivery of July 2021 (see posts further above).
Note: Point (b) above assumes a retail price inclusive of VAT. It also assumes that the Z51 performance package is included. In the US, 3LT and Z51 are specified individually and are not automatically joined, one with the other. In the UK, Chevrolet has tended to offer only one specification: the full-fat 3LT with Z51 performance package.
.
article here
https://www.motor1.com/news/397415/chevrolet-corve...
.
Thumbnail: C7 Global Sales, 2014-2018
For questions and comments about this chart, see original PH page here
unsprung said:
Japan on Sale Now -- £99,000
The car is for sale in Japan. For the potential C8 buyer in the UK, some of the following may be of interest:
. . . a) Japanese buyers placed 300 orders in the first 60 hours. This represents a 37 percent increase over total annual sales volume for the first year of the C7. See thumbnail below. If Chevrolet are not placing a limit on Japanese orders, this sales figure is likely to rise in the months ahead.
. . . b) The C8 to be sold in the UK (3LT with Z51 performance package) is priced in Japan at the equivalent of £99,000. The UK price has not been announced. Many on PH have guessed that the UK price will be circa £85,000 to £95,000 (and some PHers have estimated much more). The Japanese price is not too different from those figures.
. . . c) Unlike in the UK, the Japanese market offers all three trim levels of the car (eg: 1LT, 2LT, 3LT).
. . . d) Although the C8 is fully priced and on sale in Japan today, buyers will not receive cars until "the spring of 2021". This aligns with our estimated, and not official, time for UK delivery of July 2021 (see posts further above).
Note: Point (b) above assumes a retail price inclusive of VAT. It also assumes that the Z51 performance package is included. In the US, 3LT and Z51 are specified individually and are not automatically joined, one with the other. In the UK, Chevrolet has tended to offer only one specification: the full-fat 3LT with Z51 performance package.
.
article here
https://www.motor1.com/news/397415/chevrolet-corve...
.
Thumbnail: C7 Global Sales, 2014-2018
For questions and comments about this chart, see original PH page here
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.The car is for sale in Japan. For the potential C8 buyer in the UK, some of the following may be of interest:
. . . a) Japanese buyers placed 300 orders in the first 60 hours. This represents a 37 percent increase over total annual sales volume for the first year of the C7. See thumbnail below. If Chevrolet are not placing a limit on Japanese orders, this sales figure is likely to rise in the months ahead.
. . . b) The C8 to be sold in the UK (3LT with Z51 performance package) is priced in Japan at the equivalent of £99,000. The UK price has not been announced. Many on PH have guessed that the UK price will be circa £85,000 to £95,000 (and some PHers have estimated much more). The Japanese price is not too different from those figures.
. . . c) Unlike in the UK, the Japanese market offers all three trim levels of the car (eg: 1LT, 2LT, 3LT).
. . . d) Although the C8 is fully priced and on sale in Japan today, buyers will not receive cars until "the spring of 2021". This aligns with our estimated, and not official, time for UK delivery of July 2021 (see posts further above).
Note: Point (b) above assumes a retail price inclusive of VAT. It also assumes that the Z51 performance package is included. In the US, 3LT and Z51 are specified individually and are not automatically joined, one with the other. In the UK, Chevrolet has tended to offer only one specification: the full-fat 3LT with Z51 performance package.
.
article here
https://www.motor1.com/news/397415/chevrolet-corve...
.
Thumbnail: C7 Global Sales, 2014-2018
For questions and comments about this chart, see original PH page here
Based on the data in the linked article, I think it is worth pointing out the basic starting price in Japan is a USD equivalent of $91,000.
Without knowing what the market competitor retails for in Japan, it is probably better to price up the domestic US 3LT + Z51 add 10% duty, 20% VAT and perhaps another 5% for differing margins.
My fag packet calc comes up with about $106,000 = £82,000 over here. My guess is Chevy will want to come in pretty close to that (maybe less) to be compettitive with the entry level price on the 911 Carrera, which is £82,973.
Of course, that is just my opinion!
C8 Video Review
On both public roads and the track.
This video may be the most comprehensive of the C8 to date. Performance numbers, one or two aural delights, interior appointments, and a couple of beauty shots in the great outdoors. If you're looking, however, for an anorak's investigation of chassis engineering or what happens at the limit, that's not here.
The presenter, Kurt Niebuhr, adds to the experience by talking in a relaxed manner -- like one of your mates (and not like the caffeinated me-clowns common to online video).
video here
https://youtu.be/NphnnjQDa8w
.
Edited by unsprung on Monday 24th February 23:21
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff