RE: Aston Martin confirms DBX accessory packs

[Davey S2]

sr.guiri said:

Let's return to the halcyon days of Aston making specialists race cars for the road with looks that not even Ferrari could match.

Do you mean the days when they could only sell a few dozen cars of dubious quality and reliability and regularly escaped liquidation by the skin of their teeth every few years?

[Baldchap]

I think we'll see more and more options packs that don't really make any difference to the car whatsoever, thanks to WLTP meaning manufacturers have to test each combination of factory options. Certainly the days of building up your desired spec item by item are gone.

The available options choices on my car were 'Comfort and sound pack' and 'Sport pack', plus dealer fit items like dog guards etc. Most of these Aston items feel like dealer fit jobs to me.

[sr.guiri]

nickfrog said:

The bitterness is palpable. You must be a Jones. Thankfully they're quite rare in reality.

We sold off all our possessions, other than a house we rent out and a couple of classics, one of which we're now living in, the other in storage. We travel around the world in an old VW bus, living on 25USD per day. We have no bills, no finance, no worries. We're now about 14 months into our adventure and I can't see it ending. I could do this forever, the wife less so.

We're now in Ecuador and we've just filled up the bus, it cost $15 - that's our biggest spend of the week. And since we're now on the coast I've been wearing the same shorts for quite a while. I'll put on a T-shirt if the temp. drops at night.

So buying stuff to have one up on our neighbour really couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, if we do have one up on them it's because we're not accruing stuff.

So yeah, crap like Aston Martin is peddling get's my goat, more so the people who believe that they need it. But we all have different needs, I suppose. And you can't blame Aston for selling what the masses want.

And Gastro Pubs - yep, hate them too

[sr.guiri]

Davey S2 said:

Do you mean the days when they could only sell a few dozen cars of dubious quality and reliability and regularly escaped liquidation by the skin of their teeth every few years?

Yes, those exact days. Shareholders would disagree, but this is a forum for Petrol Heads.

[RobDown]

hu8742 said:

Aston Martin (or should I "Gaydon") are losing the plot. What on earth is this tat they're desperately trying to spin off.

17 posts in almost 6 years. Top lurking

[RobDown]

Macboy said:

They really won't be involved in making any of these accessory items. They also don't make much of the production car trim and I suspect for DBX won't make any. The realities of trying to make money making very few cars.

You’re likely right on the accessories (I think they will be outsourced). But I don’t know why you think the factory at Gaydon doesn’t do the trim for production cars; it certainly was doing so we hen I toured the factory a few weeks ago

[Jon39]

RobDown said:

17 posts in almost 6 years. Top lurking

Hello Rob.

Surprised to see you bothering to add a comment to such nonsense.

[GranCab]

sr.guiri said:

Davey S2 said:

Do you mean the days when they could only sell a few dozen cars of dubious quality and reliability and regularly escaped liquidation by the skin of their teeth every few years?

Yes, those exact days. Shareholders would disagree, but this is a forum for Petrol Heads.

... and drop outs ?

[vikingaero]

Pintofbest said:

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

I think they will sell by the bucket load - look at RR/RRS, despite being over 7 years old they are still growing sales and top sellers at JLR, same for Bentayga etc. Market wants them and they will sell. The opinions on PH barely, if at all, are an indicator of the global market - normally some blokes opinion based on what he sees ‘out and about’ in Market Harborough!

I agree. They'll fly out of the showrooms. There is always a special breed of marque enthusiast who won't stop until they have a his and hers same brand vehicle on their drives

[anonymous-user]

vikingaero said:

Pintofbest said:

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

I think they will sell by the bucket load - look at RR/RRS, despite being over 7 years old they are still growing sales and top sellers at JLR, same for Bentayga etc. Market wants them and they will sell. The opinions on PH barely, if at all, are an indicator of the global market - normally some blokes opinion based on what he sees ‘out and about’ in Market Harborough!

I agree. They'll fly out of the showrooms. There is always a special breed of marque enthusiast who won't stop until they have a his and hers same brand vehicle on their drives

There was some obnoxious programme on Channel 5 (I should have suspected) about luxury cars. Not what I was expecting, it was the usual vacuous lifestyle gurus telling us about luxury and vaguely about cars. They had a Scottish man with a Lamborghini Urus go and buy another one, the best bit was showing him test driving it, even though he turned up in one. This is the sort of person Aston want who buys for the sake of buying.

[E65Ross]

5490 said:

vikingaero said:

Pintofbest said:

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

I think they will sell by the bucket load - look at RR/RRS, despite being over 7 years old they are still growing sales and top sellers at JLR, same for Bentayga etc. Market wants them and they will sell. The opinions on PH barely, if at all, are an indicator of the global market - normally some blokes opinion based on what he sees ‘out and about’ in Market Harborough!

I agree. They'll fly out of the showrooms. There is always a special breed of marque enthusiast who won't stop until they have a his and hers same brand vehicle on their drives

the best bit was showing him test driving it, even though he turned up in one....

Unless it was literally a brand new car, I can understand that. Just to ensure nothing is wrong with it, perhaps.

[anonymous-user]

E65Ross said:

5490 said:

vikingaero said:

Pintofbest said:

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

I think they will sell by the bucket load - look at RR/RRS, despite being over 7 years old they are still growing sales and top sellers at JLR, same for Bentayga etc. Market wants them and they will sell. The opinions on PH barely, if at all, are an indicator of the global market - normally some blokes opinion based on what he sees ‘out and about’ in Market Harborough!

I agree. They'll fly out of the showrooms. There is always a special breed of marque enthusiast who won't stop until they have a his and hers same brand vehicle on their drives

the best bit was showing him test driving it, even though he turned up in one....

Unless it was literally a brand new car, I can understand that. Just to ensure nothing is wrong with it, perhaps.

It was their demonstrator - BU11 SUV no. plate. It wasn't the actual car he was buying.

They made a big song and dance about him ordering it but as he was a good customer they could hurry up the order. It was obviously just for the cameras him driving it, I just thought it funny he was test driving a car he had just turned up in.

[g3org3y]

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

Quite possibly. What is their USP for this, simply that it's an AM?

I wouldn't expect it to be as luxurious as a Bentayga. I wouldn't expect it to be as sporty/fast as an Urus. A FFRR is the typical go to choice because it has the badge, luxury and won't get stuck in a field.

Where will the DBX fit in this?

Is there a formal scheduled release date for the DBX?

[DSLiverpool]

Simply Astons are overpriced for what they are, the old stuff has kept its value well but the gap from DB9 to new stuff is a huge cost leap.

[anonymous-user]

g3org3y said:

Quite possibly. What is their USP for this, simply that it's an AM?

I wouldn't expect it to be as luxurious as a Bentayga. I wouldn't expect it to be as sporty/fast as an Urus. A FFRR is the typical go to choice because it has the badge, luxury and won't get stuck in a field.

Where will the DBX fit in this?

Is there a formal scheduled release date for the DBX?

Yes, because it's an Aston.

I can imagine a few Bentaygas being traded in for one. I know someone with a Bentayga and he was telling me he won't go back to any other sort of car. He likes the luxury and raised driving position. It's his only car. I'd imagine he'd be the sort of customer for the DBX. As long as its luxurious my fast, high up and has the right badge, he's sold.

[RobDown]

To answer the USP question; it’s an Aston Martin, it has more than enough power to match a URUS, it’s going to be luxurious inside (hopefully, photos look promising). Triple air suspension. Etc Speaking to a local dealer recently they have a lot of people going to view who are on the URUS waiting list. And Aston will be hoping to persuade many to upgrade from their Range Rovers

But always keep in mind, the key markets for this car are the US and China. I gather the initial viewings in those 2 markets are going very well

I’ve got no plans to buy one myself (or not until depreciation has taken a good chunk off the price) but I wish AML well with it, nice to see a British manufacturer thriving.

[Robert-nszl1]

RobDown said:

To answer the USP question; it’s an Aston Martin, it has more than enough power to match a URUS, it’s going to be luxurious inside (hopefully, photos look promising). Triple air suspension. Etc Speaking to a local dealer recently they have a lot of people going to view who are on the URUS waiting list. And Aston will be hoping to persuade many to upgrade from their Range Rovers

But always keep in mind, the key markets for this car are the US and China. I gather the initial viewings in those 2 markets are going very well

I’ve got no plans to buy one myself (or not until depreciation has taken a good chunk off the price) but I wish AML well with it, nice to see a British manufacturer thriving.

The problem is that it won't be as good as a range rover in many ways. Space, and off road capability most notably. It's not in the Urus league in terms of performance. It will be like a nicely trimmed Porsche Cayenne for 50-100% more. Indeed dynamically I bet it won't be as good, though I'm going on historic Porsche vs Aston outcomes so possibly unfair, or at least premature.

Aston has lost its way a bit due to the pressures of the IPO and seems to be producing decent enough cars, but that aren't as good looking as they were historically, and with diluted Aston DNA (the engines in particular). They are struggling to survive with too much debt and too much pressure to drive sales volumes. The DBX may be a great SUV, and I hope so - if the reviews are good I'll be tempted to swap my Cayenne S for one in due course. I can't help but think this may be Aston's Allegro though....

[anonymous-user]

Photos of how it looks without disguise...

https://www.motor1.com/photo/4438965/aston-martin-...

Dare I say it looks a bit F-Pace from the profile view. And good to see they're taking inspiration from Porsche, but instead of making their face look like the main models, the arse does not translate well with the V8 Vantage-esque tail.

[Nickbrapp]

Robert-nszl1 said:

The problem is that it won't be as good as a range rover in many ways. Space, and off road capability most notably. It's not in the Urus league in terms of performance. It will be like a nicely trimmed Porsche Cayenne for 50-100% more. Indeed dynamically I bet it won't be as good, though I'm going on historic Porsche vs Aston outcomes so possibly unfair, or at least premature.

Aston has lost its way a bit due to the pressures of the IPO and seems to be producing decent enough cars, but that aren't as good looking as they were historically, and with diluted Aston DNA (the engines in particular). They are struggling to survive with too much debt and too much pressure to drive sales volumes. The DBX may be a great SUV, and I hope so - if the reviews are good I'll be tempted to swap my Cayenne S for one in due course. I can't help but think this may be Aston's Allegro though....

But do the mega rich really care how much more it costs? A bentayaga is much more than a cayenne but not 100% more luxury inside.

In a world where the RR Cullen sells then so will this

[Randy Winkman]

5490 said:

vikingaero said:

Pintofbest said:

f1ten said:

Launching a heavy and eye watering expensive suv into a global downturn and with global warming being a growing issue. I can’t help but fee Aston is 5 years to late to this party...

I think they will sell by the bucket load - look at RR/RRS, despite being over 7 years old they are still growing sales and top sellers at JLR, same for Bentayga etc. Market wants them and they will sell. The opinions on PH barely, if at all, are an indicator of the global market - normally some blokes opinion based on what he sees ‘out and about’ in Market Harborough!

I agree. They'll fly out of the showrooms. There is always a special breed of marque enthusiast who won't stop until they have a his and hers same brand vehicle on their drives

There was some obnoxious programme on Channel 5 (I should have suspected) about luxury cars. Not what I was expecting, it was the usual vacuous lifestyle gurus telling us about luxury and vaguely about cars. They had a Scottish man with a Lamborghini Urus go and buy another one, the best bit was showing him test driving it, even though he turned up in one. This is the sort of person Aston want who buys for the sake of buying.

I saw that and am pleased to see you've already described it as "obnoxious" so I don't have to. It was Lambo bloke's penchant for yellow steering wheels that really got me. (I'm sure he's a nice fella though.) What also struck me were the people who seem to make a living showing rich people what to spend their money on. How does that work? If I was wealthy I think I know I'd want a 1976 Ferrari BB512. I'd also know it should be metallic blue; I'd not need an exclusive lifestyle brand guru to tell me that.