RE: Megane R.S. Trophy-R vs. Golf GTI Clubsport S

RE: Megane R.S. Trophy-R vs. Golf GTI Clubsport S

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Baldchap

7,657 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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cheddar said:
The elephant in the room for me isn't the price, it's that the Megane has 2 doors too many.
They make sense when you consider the track wheels and tyres fit in there perfectly.

cerb4.5lee

30,676 posts

180 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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A FWD family hatchback wouldn't be my go to car if I was interested in track driving either. I'd go for something along the lines of a Caterham/Lotus Elise.

It is a breath of fresh air that manufacturers are still willing to make something like this though. It gives track fans another alternative I guess.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Nik Gnashers said:
I'm with the nay-sayers I'm afraid.
Yes I get that these are brand new cars.
What I don't get, is : why anyone would pay seventy-two-fking-grand for a brand new car only to thrash it round a track. Especially when that car is not actually that fast.
You could build a much faster, more enjoyable, track-day car for half that, maybe a quarter or less, and have that special feel-good factor that you are in something unique and that you had a hand in building.
I just don't get it.
Maybe I just don't move in the right 'circles' to know anyone who could afford to 'waste' quite frankly, a sum of money like that on a weekend toy that they can't be arsed to put any effort into actually building.
I have to agree.

I love that these cars exist & I genuinely applaud the guys at both Renault & VW but....if track thrills are your thing then you could build something more fun for the money (and still keep it road legal).





timrud

365 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Golf looks far nicer and will be better quality

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

127 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Nik Gnashers said:
What I don't get, is : why anyone would pay seventy-two-fking-grand for a brand new car only to thrash it round a track.
But what if you were extremely wealthy, already owned lots of exotic metal, were bored, and fancied buying a rare curiosity with pocket change? I know I'd put my name down for one with every possible option and wouldn't bat an eyelid at the cost. You can't view cars like this through the lens of the average car buyer. In my opinion, anyway.

MyV10goesWhaaa

301 posts

93 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat

Baldchap

7,657 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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MyV10goesWhaaa said:
Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat
I thought we all agreed that the correct answer is as always... MX-5.

Butter Face

30,314 posts

160 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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MyV10goesWhaaa said:
Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat
I’d wager that financially you’d be a lot better off with the Megane @ 72k in 10 years than you would be spunking the cash modifying a Golf R.

Baldchap

7,657 posts

92 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Butter Face said:
MyV10goesWhaaa said:
Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat
I’d wager that financially you’d be a lot better off with the Megane @ 72k in 10 years than you would be spunking the cash modifying a Golf R.
Certainly used to be a rule of thumb that whatever you spent on mods, you knocked off the vehicle's value.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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I can't play snooker like Ronnie O'Sullivan. Should I now not bother because a table is therefore wasted on me??

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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A £70k Megane seems like a fitting tribute to the last of the great hot hatch brigade as we go EV and will never have again a light car with a practical bodyshell that you can bung it in to any corner and then sort it out.

Renault with GT turbo and then Clio Williams and then onwards to bigger and heavier cars, still managed to keep the ethos.

Surprisingly there are only 2 cars in the top spec produced. Renault has one, who has the other one? Could be a gold mine even at £70k


Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Butter Face said:
MyV10goesWhaaa said:
Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat
I’d wager that financially you’d be a lot better off with the Megane @ 72k in 10 years than you would be spunking the cash modifying a Golf R.
Yep, only 2 in Europe and as far as I can tell Renault have one for their historical fleet...

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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I didn't suggest that I was crap just that I am not as good as Ronnie O'Sullivan, or any other professional snooker player for that matter. But if I could afford to buy the best table I could, because better tables are better to play on, and I got satisfaction and enjoyment by doing so why would that be a waste?? I certainly wouldn't be doing just for sake of boasting about it. What a narrow minded, shallow person you must be!!

MyV10goesWhaaa

301 posts

93 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Butter Face said:
Porsche911R said:
davey83 said:
Folks that mention price cant afford the car, simple as that.
Rubbish, people who can afford the car would rather buy a GT4 or many other cars in this price bracket.
Assumptions, assumptions everywhere rofl

We have a customer who has a 458, a GT3 RS AND a Megane Trophy, because, you know, he can afford it.

The person choosing between buying the £70k Trophy-R and a GT4 doesn't exist, if it was your one big car purchase then of course you would buy the Porsche, but it's not, they're being bought by people who have multiple cars and to whom the money isn't really an issue.
laugh This i can agree with...

MyV10goesWhaaa

301 posts

93 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Butter Face said:
I’d wager that financially you’d be a lot better off with the Megane @ 72k in 10 years than you would be spunking the cash modifying a Golf R.
At that money you would have to care tho, not so much for the much cheaper cars mentioned and you could drive the shizz out of those.. all day.. every day.. Without the fear of devaluing the thing... And have a much better car in regards to the VW side of things...


Edited by MyV10goesWhaaa on Sunday 20th October 15:05

MyV10goesWhaaa

301 posts

93 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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Thats dumb wobbleroflroflrofl

That literally made me laugh... beer


Edited by MyV10goesWhaaa on Sunday 20th October 15:06

Butter Face

30,314 posts

160 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Gandahar said:
Butter Face said:
MyV10goesWhaaa said:
Soooo... What have we learned....Rear steer is crap and over 70k is way too much for the Renault.. On the VW side you'd be much better off, performance, financially and handling wise in just modding a
GTI or an R....
getmecoat
I’d wager that financially you’d be a lot better off with the Megane @ 72k in 10 years than you would be spunking the cash modifying a Golf R.
Yep, only 2 in Europe and as far as I can tell Renault have one for their historical fleet...
There's only 2 coming to the UK in full spec, there will be more in Europe but as the UK is it's own little RHD bubble it's a pretty safe place to park some money.

I remember customers laughing at the R26R and saying 'how much for a bloody french hatchback' in 2009. They're more money now than they were selling for then!

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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MyV10goesWhaaa said:
anonymous said:
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Thats dumb wobbleroflroflrofl

That made literally me laugh... beer
Thankfully the human race will never be defined or limited to what an average person is capable of! We are where we are now because there are folks who are willing to push boundaries and those who are willing to support it.

FA57REN

1,021 posts

55 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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cheddar said:
The elephant in the room for me isn't the price, it's that the Megane has 2 doors too many.
Normally I'd agree but in this case it gives better aft visibility than the three-door.

I've been in the previous generation RS Mégane coupé and the visibility out the back was appalling.

terryb

976 posts

244 months

Sunday 20th October 2019
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Baldchap said:
cheddar said:
The elephant in the room for me isn't the price, it's that the Megane has 2 doors too many.
They make sense when you consider the track wheels and tyres fit in there perfectly.
I for one, will be glad to fit a set of roadworthy tyres/ wheels to drive home after 2 days of full on track action - I think the fronts will be goosed after 2 days, so pleased it will be easy to fit the wheels in the car.