Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 15]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 15]

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,290 posts

181 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I have rear arm-rest envy. Mine is positively DHSS compared to that, with only heated seats for rear occupants to play with.

Not that I should care really, I only have a front-seat passenger for about 5% of my total driving time, and someone in the rear even less. Still jealous though.


TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,091 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I have rear arm-rest envy. Mine is positively DHSS compared to that, with only heated seats for rear occupants to play with.

Not that I should care really, I only have a front-seat passenger for about 5% of my total driving time, and someone in the rear even less. Still jealous though.
Peasant hehe

rich12

3,464 posts

155 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Peasant hehe
Does it have massage seats?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,091 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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rich12 said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Peasant hehe
Does it have massage seats?
No, unfortunately mine is the semi-peasant model.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,290 posts

181 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
Peasant hehe
That is true. I am, at heart, very much a peasant.

trooperiziz

9,456 posts

253 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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The problem with the N62 45 engines is that they aren't the same owner experience as other cars when it comes to faults.

Take any other car, they all have a list of common faults. We look at that list as the optimistic fools that we are, and in our mind we know that if we buy a good one, and we look after it, then those faults won't appear. It's the people that don't care and don't maintain that have those faults, or the unlucky ones.
We're lucky, because we put in the effort to stay on top of maintenance, and know to look for the right car in the first place, from the right owner... and a lot of the time that plays out (certainly enough to convince ourselves when we lay in bed at night.) We might get one or two of the issues from the list, but not all of them, and they are all fixable with a bit of knowledge.

The N62 is a different beast, the list of common faults (oil leaks, valve stems, vanos/vvt issues) are not a list a possibiliies, it's a list of things that WILL happen, the only unknown is when. Once you hit 10-15 years old, or over 120k miles then it's a ticking time bomb until it dies. No amount of sensible buying or maintence will make a difference, and the price to fix for some of the issues is thousands each time.

Look at the thread 745i, it spent the majority of its life in the hands of threadists, and it still had all the common problems and died in the end.
We are exactly the right sort of people to run a car like that, and even we couldn't save it...

Speed addicted

5,575 posts

228 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Don’t forget the dreaded coolant leak in the V, mine was occasionally needing topped up but we couldn’t see where it was escaping from.

The V8 is a lovely thing when it’s working well, but they do have a lot of faults that will happen at some point. My car only had 63k on it when it went but I’d had everything go wrong due to age. The rest of it was fine!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,091 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Have BMW actually made any reliable/solid units in the past 15-20 years? It seems many suffer with problems be it timing chains/tensioners, various seals, coolant system problems, turbos etc etc?!

Still, when they're working they seem to be good smile

Bonefish Blues

26,773 posts

224 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Wasn't the 6 in the 6 series about as good as it got?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,091 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Bonefish Blues said:
Wasn't the 6 in the 6 series about as good as it got?
I can't remember whether that was the M54 or N54 (or N52? My beard got shaved around that era). The M54 was a fairly good unit I think, but coolant system problems could lead to head gasket failure.

The coolant leak in the V of the V8 N62 isn't that big a deal these days. It can be sorted for just a few £hundred, and it's a permanent fix. But the cylinder cover gaskets, valve stem seals and plethora of other issues are still 4 figure bills (well, cylinder cover gaskets were about £900 I think for me). Such a nice engine when it's working but bugger me is it full of problems!

bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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stevethegreek said:


This picture was when I picked it up. It's a very standard spec (apart from the optional bird feeder on the front smile),
By the way, this made me chortle!

EDIT: I've been updating my Reader's Wives thread and still only in April 2019... I haven't began to cover the Summer's European jaunts and much chucking of money at Magnificent Magnus. You're all welcome to pop on over.

Edited by bolidemichael on Sunday 17th November 10:51

Philv8s

546 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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The valve stem seals can be done for about £700 these days so not too bad and there are loads of cars around now that have new seals fitted and new rocker cover gaskets done at the same time obviously, so just buy one which has the work carried already.
As for the best engine engine in a 6? I rather like the H1 in mine, but I am a little biased.

bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Philv8s said:
The valve stem seals can be done for about £700 these days so not too bad and there are loads of cars around now that have new seals fitted and new rocker cover gaskets done at the same time obviously, so just buy one which has the work carried already.
As for the best engine engine in a 6? I rather like the H1 in mine, but I am a little biased.
Your Alpina is almost peerless. Please follow my shameless plug in posting a link to your own Reader's Wives thread. It's enough to make Bargeistes weep at the perfection.

Here's a Sunday temptation at the other end of the scale, an E61 550i with 240,000 miles and some work required for under £2k


Bonefish Blues

26,773 posts

224 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I can't remember whether that was the M54 or N54 (or N52? My beard got shaved around that era). The M54 was a fairly good unit I think, but coolant system problems could lead to head gasket failure.

The coolant leak in the V of the V8 N62 isn't that big a deal these days. It can be sorted for just a few £hundred, and it's a permanent fix. But the cylinder cover gaskets, valve stem seals and plethora of other issues are still 4 figure bills (well, cylinder cover gaskets were about £900 I think for me). Such a nice engine when it's working but bugger me is it full of problems!
N52 I understand

Philv8s

546 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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bolidemichael said:
Your Alpina is almost peerless. Please follow my shameless plug in posting a link to your own Reader's Wives thread. It's enough to make Bargeistes weep at the perfection.

Here's a Sunday temptation at the other end of the scale, an E61 550i with 240,000 miles and some work required for under £2k
Here you go, enjoy 😁
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...

cornershop

2,136 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I have rear arm-rest envy. Mine is positively DHSS compared to that, with only heated seats for rear occupants to play with.

Not that I should care really, I only have a front-seat passenger for about 5% of my total driving time, and someone in the rear even less. Still jealous though.
I never understood Lexus’ thinking about placing the rear heated seat controls in the rear armrest, which you have to then fold down and open the lid to use.

728 days later

590 posts

64 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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My goodness that Alpina is seriously desirable, I would forgive every bill that threw at me!

Sterillium

22,233 posts

226 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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My name is Sterillium and I am a barge-a-holic..

I've just realised I must have a 460.

mondayo

1,825 posts

264 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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tobinen said:
I can't remember the last time I drove over 90 MPH. Even if I wanted to the traffic rarely allows.
I was going up the M40 on Tuesday night at the lower end of the 90-130 range.
A McLaren and 911 came past me at over the top of that range (I'm guessing) and I think the McLaren driver was lifting off, due to the flames he was emitting. It wasn't even that late, so reasonably busy

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,091 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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cornershop said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I have rear arm-rest envy. Mine is positively DHSS compared to that, with only heated seats for rear occupants to play with.

Not that I should care really, I only have a front-seat passenger for about 5% of my total driving time, and someone in the rear even less. Still jealous though.
I never understood Lexus’ thinking about placing the rear heated seat controls in the rear armrest, which you have to then fold down and open the lid to
use.
I can only suspect it is because the armrest can only be a certain length (otherwise it would not fold away to make a 3rd back seat) and if used as an arm rest if the leather cover only went so far as the heating controls then you'd end up leaning on the heating controls, rather than the leather.
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