RE: Ford Puma ST spied

Thursday 31st October 2019

Ford Puma ST spied

Like a Fiesta ST, but need it taller and uglier? Here's the car!



This presents something of a dilemma. The Ford Puma "SUV-inspired crossover", set to arrive with customers in the new year, is not really a PH kinda car: it besmirches the great Puma name to enthusiasts, made famous 20 years ago, it looks a bit dumpy and the First Edition is £25k. But the Fiesta ST most certainly is a PH car: fast, fun, relatively simple and good value.

So what happens when the two are combined? Because that's what we're looking at here, the Fiesta-derived Puma having been subjected to the ST overhaul. Look, it has the same exhausts, wheels from a Focus ST and a sporty little bodykit.


That a car looking like this is three-wheeling its way around the Nurburgring would surely imply that this is a Puma that borrows running gear from the 200hp Fiesta. Makes eminent sense, too: the demand is surely there for performance SUVs of all sizes - to the extent that it's odd more aren't yet offered - and you could get the PH staff to do the chassis set up and still end up with a sweet handling car. Because the Fiesta platform is so good. Of course, the concern in creating a Puma like the Fiesta flagship, with its raised ride height and loftier centre of gravity, is not only that it won't quite match the Fiesta, but also that it will be incredibly stiff. The hatch is pretty fidgety already, so the inevitable toughening up of a larger car attempting to emulate it could be troublesome. Certainly that rear axle looks stiff enough already...

Take this as confirmation, then, that the Ford ST family will be extending into SUVs; or rather, ones that might have a little more relevance in the UK than the Explorer. Expect a full announcement from Ford in the new year some time, along with a glut of rivals in due course: another NISMO Juke, something sporty out of the Arona/T-Cross/Kamiq trio, perhaps even a Renault Sport crossover. Stranger things have happened. This Puma might be quite a nice driving little car, for starters. More details soon...



Images: S. Baldauf/S.B. Medien

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FA57REN

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1,019 posts

55 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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What bemuses me more than a warm version of an SUV version of a hatchback is... How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...




HumanSteamroller

114 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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FA57REN said:
What bemuses me more than a warm version of an SUV version of a hatchback is... How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...

Let's be honest, they want people to see what the shape of the car is. If they were truly concerned with keeping this stuff a real secret and not letting people see the lines, they wouldn't test the cars in convenient full view of "spy photographers".

Edit: also, that Dazzle camo really is a headfk if you look at it too long. Love it.

Edited by HumanSteamroller on Thursday 31st October 10:33

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

5,156 posts

55 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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FA57REN said:
What bemuses me more than a warm version of an SUV version of a hatchback is... How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...

Ah...so the skipper isn't a big fan of Zebras then...

felixgogo

155 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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In 2000 I got a 1.7 Puma brand new - I still have it today - what a great car.

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Calling this mini SUV a 'Puma' is an insult to that brilliant little sports car. Why oh why didn't they make this instead as the new Puma:



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HumanSteamroller

114 posts

77 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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felixgogo said:


fking hell, that is gopping. Looks like a 370Z that was dropped on its head at birth.

p4cks

6,909 posts

199 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Doesn't need camoflauge - no one is going to want to copy any of that

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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whats its COG, i think a nice estate version would be a little better at the green hell

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Such a shame they went SUV with the new Puma.

A nice coupe version of the Fiesta would have been nice. But I guess everyone want's bloody SUV's

Mr Whippy

29,033 posts

241 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Lol CofG!

arkenphel

484 posts

205 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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If they made a more habitable version of an Ariel Nomad, I'd be interested. Lord knows the potholes and ruts where I live will give any road car a workout

Don Roque

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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It looks utterly ridiculous. These daft SUV's pitch and roll all over the place because they're so tall and poorly balanced. What a turd this thing looks like.

Alex_225

6,261 posts

201 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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wab172uk said:
Such a shame they went SUV with the new Puma.

A nice coupe version of the Fiesta would have been nice. But I guess everyone want's bloody SUV's
Sadly you're right. Us lot would love to see a new take on the original Puma as it's renowned for being a good drivers car and was a good looking vehicle.

Sadly they'll make more money out of it as an SUV and hence we'll end up having to look at them all over the bloody place. frown

Mr.Jimbo

2,082 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Christ, please no one else quote that dazzle camo, really messing with my head!

I think the camo this car is wearing is a pre-launch one that is intended to show off the shape, (hopefully) they use a lot more effective one for actual camo earlier in the project - in most OEMs it's usually augmented early on by hard camo as well underneath the wrap.

CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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FA57REN said:
How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...

I agree. 'Dazzle camouflage' cannot disguise this helicopter smile

Snubs

1,172 posts

139 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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FA57REN said:
What bemuses me more than a warm version of an SUV version of a hatchback is... How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...
I thought the idea was so that the photos couldn't be easily edited in photoshop, by changing the colour of the car and things like that?

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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I can see a similarity with lights - people seem to like these SUVs for the higher driving position etc, esp as the demographic ages

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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s m said:
The happiest car on the 'ring biggrin

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Krikkit said:
s m said:
The happiest car on the 'ring biggrin
It reminds me of a mouse for some reason smile

Steve vRS

4,845 posts

241 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Another former owner of the real Puma here. I was excited when I heard Ford were bringing the Puma back, especially as the Fiesta ST is such a good car to base another model on.

Imagine my disappointment when reality bit.

xu5

633 posts

157 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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Krikkit said:
s m said:
The happiest car on the 'ring biggrin
Ha ha, I had a little laugh at that, it does look happy. I now feel less aggrieved that it looks so bad!