RE: Ford Puma ST spied

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s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Thursday 31st October 2019
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MC Bodge said:
This will sell in huge numbers. I suspect that it will be quite good for what it is.
I reckon it will be faster round a track than the old Racing Puma even if it does feel a bit top-heavy and weighs more. Manufacturers are getting better at making these sort of cars hang on round the bends

Listening to people I work with chat about cars, they like a high driving position, a bit of zoom out the bends or dual carriageway roundabouts, gadgets etc

They’re not bothered about balancing the chassis on the edge of adhesion with a 6-pot zinging away. SUVs with a bit of sporty sell well

Chacun a son gout Rodders!

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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FA57REN said:
What bemuses me more than a warm version of an SUV version of a hatchback is... How car manufacturers have completely lost the point of dazzle camouflage. It's meant to break-up the lines of an object...

Yeah, but they're not trying to camouflage it, they're trying to publicise it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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A herd chasing offering.
Possibly moderately well executed.
A name means nothing in current motoring.


GTEYE

2,096 posts

211 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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irocfan said:
truth the told it's edging on gopping
But compared to say a Juke....surely you would agree that one of those is worse?

MC Bodge

21,662 posts

176 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Is testing road cars like this at somewhere like the Nurburgring of that much use or than it being a very long private road?

nickfrog

21,201 posts

218 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Is testing road cars like this at somewhere like the Nurburgring of that much use or than it being a very long private road?
Yes, it's a very practical way of testing kinematics set ups even for non high performance cars. A proving ground if you like.

smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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I mean, they produced and sold this, so nothing surprises me anymore...





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mooseracer

1,902 posts

171 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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1430 said:
LOL the puma's heritage! a puma! come on... The puma is an ugly little fwd blob, hence why they go for £200

Now it would be a real crime if they remade the ka, with it's aerodynamic shape, rich motorsport history and name derived from feces.
I kind of agree - the Puma was a car "of it's time" and the new one will be too.
Heritage? It was pretty much a parts bin special on sale for what - 4 years?

Great car but not worth over eulogising or getting all misty eyed about.

pb8g09

2,348 posts

70 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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smithyithy said:
I mean, they produced and sold this, so nothing surprises me anymore...





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Ultrafunkula

997 posts

106 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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smithyithy said:
I mean, they produced and sold this, so nothing surprises me anymore...





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That looks like it's been on the pies

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Though I want to slag off Ford for calling it a Puma if it handles as well as the original did in that format then hats off to Ford.

SUV and crossovers are what people are buying, give them a fine handling car for that choice rather than mediocrity.

Hope it does really well


irocfan

40,551 posts

191 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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GTEYE said:
irocfan said:
truth the told it's edging on gopping
But compared to say a Juke....surely you would agree that one of those is worse?
It's a little like the choice between being hit in the nuts with a lump-hammer or a sledge hammer. wink

s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Like a mini-Macan




Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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As a former owner of an original 1.7 Puma, I think this is a shame. People far more qualified than me clearly advise Ford on such things, but I can't believe a "new" Puma along the same lines as the old one wouldn't have been a huge success given how talented the current Fiesta platform is dynamically.

A small, relatively light 3dr coupe, again using relatively cheap Fiesta underpinnings, but with bespoke suspension calibration, and the 1.5 turbo three pots carried over from the Fiesta in a couple of different states of tune between 150 and 200 bhp (perhaps the 200 could have been stretched slightly to give it an edge over the Fiesta). It would have delivered all the same B-road enjoyment as the original, but with a significant extra turn of speed. And like the original, it could have been developed relatively cheaply due to the platform sharing, and direct carry over of most of the components.

There's obviously a good reason why this route wasn't taken, but it's still a shame IMO.


CraigV6

348 posts

132 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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I think it looks as good as the Fiesta and Focus.
That’s not saying much though.

craste

1,222 posts

208 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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I saw one of these in a gun metal grey colour on the M6 junction 9 about a week ago, to be fair it looked quite nice in the flesh!

That’s the trouble with photographs, sometimes they don’t show the light and shade / curves as good as it appears in real life, a prime example is the new Golf, some of the official VW pics makes the car look really bland, but when I saw some pictures of it on the stand, it looked so much better, you could see all the curves and creases and how how much thought has been put into the design.

True us petrolheads would rather have a swanky coupe, but it’s all about chasing the £’s, so if they (Ford) sell lots they can fund specials!

I hope Ford produce a car again which made me in awe every time I saw one, which made we catch a bus into the city centre and walk for half an hour to Bristol Street Motors on the Bristol road in Birmingham when I was a young boy so I could sit in one and imagine driving it - that car was the Ford Sierra RS Cosworth!



s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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craste said:
I hope Ford produce a car again which made me in awe every time I saw one, which made we catch a bus into the city centre and walk for half an hour to Bristol Street Motors on the Bristol road in Birmingham when I was a young boy so I could sit in one and imagine driving it - that car was the Ford Sierra RS Cosworth!
I think Ford had to wing it a bit with the Sierra - shape didn’t go down well and they needed to give it a bit of racetrack aura

They’ve got a good base with the Fiesta so it seems worth trying to expand it into the massive market for SUVs

You only have to look round a carpark to see they’re popularity


The Li-ion King

3,766 posts

65 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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HumanSteamroller said:
felixgogo said:


fking hell, that is gopping. Looks like a 370Z that was dropped on its head at birth.
rofl

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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How often do you see a Toyota GT86 or Subaru BRZ around? It's the sort of car everyone on PH has said they want, but it doesn't really sell. I know two people, who both happen to be gay men, who've swapped Audi TTs for Audi Q3s, partly to accommodate dogs but mainly for the sake of changing fashion.

MC Bodge

21,662 posts

176 months

Friday 1st November 2019
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Blakewater said:
How often do you see a Toyota GT86 or Subaru BRZ around? It's the sort of car everyone on PH has said they want, but it doesn't really sell. I know two people, who both happen to be gay men, who've swapped Audi TTs for Audi Q3s, partly to accommodate dogs but mainly for the sake of changing fashion.
I see quite a few GT86.