RE: Tommykaira ZZ | Spotted

RE: Tommykaira ZZ | Spotted

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RobEB

96 posts

95 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Having not played GranTurismo for many many years, can someone load it up and confirm the car did 0-60 in 4 seconds

Matty322

222 posts

93 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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One I spotted last year on , one of my many trips around tokyo


soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Matty322 said:
One I spotted last year on , one of my many trips around tokyo

Second generation was pure electric?

s m

23,225 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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Autocar Handling Day ‘98


yellowstreak

615 posts

152 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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Duncan Lang said:
Yes, you are right. They struggle a little though so I swapped mine for twin 45 webers.

They are great handling cars and the Nissan running gear is very reliable and cheap/easy to maintain.
I've got two of them, one road car and one race car. The previous owner of the are car used to race in the MC750 championship and I'm led to believe that he never lost to the motorsport Elise in his class.

The ZZ2 was never more than a concept car. Apparently it just about ran enough to get it from the truck to the show stand.

I've been told as few as 80 and as many as 200 were produced.

If anyone wants to know more, just ask and I'll rack my brain.
Well they look fantastic! Thank you

anarki

759 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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RobEB said:
Having not played GranTurismo for many many years, can someone load it up and confirm the car did 0-60 in 4 seconds
I'll load up GT4 and GT6 later and get back to you.

thiscocks

3,128 posts

195 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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Cool looking car but judging from David Leslie's review, not as sorted as an Elise. I think Id go for a S1 sport 160 instead.

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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anarki said:
RobEB said:
Having not played GranTurismo for many many years, can someone load it up and confirm the car did 0-60 in 4 seconds
I'll load up GT4 and GT6 later and get back to you.
6.8 to 60 in GT4 apparently.

s m

23,225 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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thiscocks said:
Cool looking car but judging from David Leslie's review, not as sorted as an Elise. I think Id go for a S1 sport 160 instead.
Yes, they liked the Elise better



Interestingly, for all the handling quirks the Tommykaira was a bit quicker round the lap

anarki

759 posts

136 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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kiseca said:
anarki said:
RobEB said:
Having not played GranTurismo for many many years, can someone load it up and confirm the car did 0-60 in 4 seconds
I'll load up GT4 and GT6 later and get back to you.
6.8 to 60 in GT4 apparently.
Managed to hit 5.9 dead on my second run in GT6. (Using a dual shock 3 pad)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM0tsxtgdCc&fe...

I could probably get it down further if I had a steering wheel/pedals.

I couldn't find my copy of GT4 but I would assume it would be about the same as that car was rehashed for GT6 anyway.

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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anarki said:
Managed to hit 5.9 dead on my second run in GT6. (Using a dual shock 3 pad)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM0tsxtgdCc&fe...

I could probably get it down further if I had a steering wheel/pedals.

I couldn't find my copy of GT4 but I would assume it would be about the same as that car was rehashed for GT6 anyway.
Problem in GT4 was, firstly, pulling away quickly was difficult so all the cars looked slower than expected unless someone with more finesse than I had was balancing the wheelspin, and secondly, 0-60 and 0-100 time measuring wasn't in the game. It gave max speed, standing 400 metres, and standing 1000m. To measure 0 - 60 you'd have to watch the replay of one of the other two sprints and keep pausing to see roughly what the clock was at when the speed hit 60..

thelostboy

4,569 posts

225 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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An Elise 190, now that has me drooling too! On the rare occasion they come, I believe they are £40k+ so the Tommy doesn't look too bad value.

As said, impressive lap time given the poor write up versus the Lotus!

s m

23,225 posts

203 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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I think it should have been roughly the same figures as the Sport 190. Based on the quoted power and weight and gearing.

However, it does make you wonder about the faster track time than the Elise as you'd think the wheel/rubber set-up wasn't significantly better on paper - the set-up, although tricky, didn't seem to be losing much/if any time in the corners. Albeit a proper race driver was doing the laps in both

2woody

919 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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I was involved in the design, testing and setting up the Hingham factory for this. I'll try and answer a few questions....

The chassis was all aluminium, with extrusions welded into cast corner pieces

Design-wise it was a peach, very elegant design work. And simple to build as well, but there really wasn't much to it.

I've never drien one on the road for any great distance, but its on-track performance was ok - not exactly an Elise, but pretty close

As far as I'm aware, all of the production cars went straight to Japan - producing them in England was really nothing more than a gimmick on behalf of Tomita.

The engine was a basic SR20DE, but with the carbs fitted. I'm not going to say how we got it past emissions legislation, but we did - and legally, too.

The best little touch was the roof, which was the same shape as the engine lid - when you took off the roof, it simply stowed just like an extra engine lid - genius

RT7500

64 posts

55 months

Tuesday 12th November 2019
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The Autocar test stated it had adjustable dampers. A quick tweak of these might have helped with its oversteer issues on track.

quigonjay

641 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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2woody said:
I was involved in the design, testing and setting up the Hingham factory for this. I'll try and answer a few questions....
I have a question -
Most of the examples i have seen around the internet over the years seem to have that hardtop that can be stored on top of the engine lid but have seen the odd example that seem to have more of a targa style arrangement with an extra section of bodywork over the hoop and a rear window - was this something that was offered from the factory or is it aftermarket?

Duncan Lang

62 posts

107 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Matty322 said:
One I spotted last year on , one of my many trips around tokyo

That's a Green Lord Motors version. All electric as you say.