RE: 'Extreme' McLaren Elva revealed with 815hp
Discussion
CrossMember said:
As a 2-11 driver, I can confirm absolutely none. Earplugs, earplugs and more earplugs. Wind noise alone is enough to seriously damage hearing, let alone engine/induction/supercharger/exhaust noises.
I assumed that would be the case having been in the odd Caterham which did have wind protection, and they were bad enough. I expect the rationale on here will be that they will only ever be doing 2mph past Harrods anyway so wind noise won’t be a factor. 
dave_Sw1 said:
I wish Mclaren would spend more time on quality control and lest time pumping out 30 different models a year! they are ruining the brand, so many horror stories on quality, that and aftersales servicing fails are common place enough to devalue what could be a great brand - case in point, i'm hearing they are offering 50k off new 570s now because they can't sell them
You hear etc... But you hear stories like this about every brand.Don't forget that many of the cars are derivatives of the same model, not completely new models and all of this keeps the sales funnel going and provides cash for improved quality control etc.
Frimley111R said:
You hear etc... But you hear stories like this about every brand.
Don't forget that many of the cars are derivatives of the same model, not completely new models and all of this keeps the sales funnel going and provides cash for improved quality control etc.
Do you?Don't forget that many of the cars are derivatives of the same model, not completely new models and all of this keeps the sales funnel going and provides cash for improved quality control etc.
I wouldn't touch any McLaren with a barge pole; too many bad stories and depreciation is ridiculous, thanks to them churning out model after model.
They appear to have a one-man design team and, Mclaren, having one engine for every single car makes you look like you have no money...
Another month, another McLaren.
If you can afford to buy one, I'm sure the buying experience will be second to none.
But how many of these cars will see a road? Probably very few.
How many of these cars will see a track day? Probably very few.
It's more likely to be tucked away into a very exclusive garage full of very expensive and exotic cars. To be fair if I was that rich I'd be doing the same. But I'd at least drive them. That's the tragedy that these cars never seen the light of day. While 99.999999% of the planet can never afford one, it'd be nice to see them being driven, so the rest of us can ogle, dream, and appreciate the cars for what they are.
One of the reasons they'll never get driven (apart from the owner not wanting 100 miles on the clock it in case it affects the value) is that for anyone not a racing driver, these cars are just too damn fast. Just to give it a squirt, you'll run out of road, then no doubt talent.
Not knocking the owners. You've made your money, spend it how you want. Not knocking the manufacturers. They're building these cars to make a profit. But these cars to the 99.9999% of the planet, are becoming completely irrelevant.
If you can afford to buy one, I'm sure the buying experience will be second to none.
But how many of these cars will see a road? Probably very few.
How many of these cars will see a track day? Probably very few.
It's more likely to be tucked away into a very exclusive garage full of very expensive and exotic cars. To be fair if I was that rich I'd be doing the same. But I'd at least drive them. That's the tragedy that these cars never seen the light of day. While 99.999999% of the planet can never afford one, it'd be nice to see them being driven, so the rest of us can ogle, dream, and appreciate the cars for what they are.
One of the reasons they'll never get driven (apart from the owner not wanting 100 miles on the clock it in case it affects the value) is that for anyone not a racing driver, these cars are just too damn fast. Just to give it a squirt, you'll run out of road, then no doubt talent.
Not knocking the owners. You've made your money, spend it how you want. Not knocking the manufacturers. They're building these cars to make a profit. But these cars to the 99.9999% of the planet, are becoming completely irrelevant.
Harry_523 said:
Gameface said:
Pointless and pretty much unusable.
+1Purely an exerciser to fill the coffers up a bit more. Offers nothing to get excited about.
That's what the current board of the company doesn't understand. The F1 is still appreciating because a.) there was only 100ish were built. b.) it had a racing heritage that everyone can relate to. c.) it was an amazing advance in vehicle design and construction. Chucking new 'limited editions' into the market and hoping one will stick won't work.
And I have also heard that you can get 50k off a 570.
I love Mclaren but all of this is beginning to smack of desperation.
It would seem that the market for "standard" McLaren's is a bit soft at the moment. I seem to remember seeing some sales figures the other day for 720's and it wasn't a large number. This is a problem partly of their own making, as, as many have commented, they have flooded the market with too many models, there appear to be reliability issues and dealer support is varied.
I guess to keep sales up, they are going to try and exploit interest in limited run models. I know a few car "collectors" in my time, who may own 5 or 6 special cars. I have always found them to be a very knowledgeable and discerning lot, and they won't just buy any old thing because someone has launched it as a limited edition, especially if they already own something similiar.
I think the market for "specials" is in real danger of being flooded, and as opposed to being bought by collectors, the cars are going to speculators. Those will long memories will remember the last time prices for cars went this way in the late 80's. I remember seeing a dealer advertising Ferrari 328's for £125k - 2 years later, I bought one for £30k. When speculators realize they can't make a quick profit, they try to dump the cars, and it is a very thin market.
Tough times ahead, me thinks.
I guess to keep sales up, they are going to try and exploit interest in limited run models. I know a few car "collectors" in my time, who may own 5 or 6 special cars. I have always found them to be a very knowledgeable and discerning lot, and they won't just buy any old thing because someone has launched it as a limited edition, especially if they already own something similiar.
I think the market for "specials" is in real danger of being flooded, and as opposed to being bought by collectors, the cars are going to speculators. Those will long memories will remember the last time prices for cars went this way in the late 80's. I remember seeing a dealer advertising Ferrari 328's for £125k - 2 years later, I bought one for £30k. When speculators realize they can't make a quick profit, they try to dump the cars, and it is a very thin market.
Tough times ahead, me thinks.
Dynamic Space Wizard said:
This is bull:
If you want to be really pedantic, McLaren have built many cars lighter even than 551kg. However, the weight claim is clearly talking about homologated road cars, not racing cars, of which I think the F1 LM is the lightest at just under 1000 kg.Article said:
Secondly, it is (with a disclaimer of final certification pending) the lightest car ever from McLaren
andArticle said:
Still, the fact that there was a car, a 551kg open-top spaceframe sportscar
There's no way that new one is going to be under 551kg Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff