RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E leaks online
Discussion
Jon_S_Rally said:
spikyone said:
ETA: If car manufacturers want to save the planet, they could start by finding a way to make small electric cars viable rather than creating enormous electric SUVs.
They have zero interest in saving the planet unless it helps them to maintain profit margins. SUVs sell, so that's what they'll keep producing until they go out of fashion or they're told not to. The whole EV thing is a a bit of a fallacy at the moment. Building new electric cars and crushing old ICE ones isn't good for the environment, it's good for the car industry. If we genuinely want to save the planet, we need to reduce demand for people to own/use cars at all. Sadly, environmental policy and business interest are pretty incompatible.
t, Sherlock.
Here is a timely quote I saw. Something to think about...
"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
RKBerta said:
Here is a timely quote I saw. Something to think about...
"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
Uh bulls"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
t. RKBerta said:
Here is a timely quote I saw. Something to think about...
"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
Doesn't tesla and panasonic that are from the USA and Japan respectively make batteries for Teslas?"It won't take ten years before problems with electric cars surface. It will happen tomorrow if China refuses to make the batteries for these cars. Apparently the manufacturing process creates so much toxic byproducts that they cannot be done legally in the G7 nations!"
Neither country has a patchy record when it comes to enviromental issues.
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in the car world any more. I'll be 48 years old tomorrow - I may as well be 98 I'm so confused. You used to step in to a car, now you climb up in to one. You used to just stick a nozzle in the side for a couple of minutes, now you plug it in and go for a coffee. Mustangs used to be driven by Steve McQueen, now they're gonna be driven by 'soccer queens'....... after they've finished their latte and unplugged it....... and put away the stepladder after the little dahlings have climbed up in to their cradles.
I'm aware it's the new reality that I am just going to have to learn to accept........ but that doesn't bloody mean I have to like it!!
I'm aware it's the new reality that I am just going to have to learn to accept........ but that doesn't bloody mean I have to like it!!
I just detest everything about this ugly slob car. It looks like it's being inflated with something being pumped up its hideous backside.
But the whole promotion of electric cars is based on stupidity and deliberate misinformation. There's nothing remotely green about some lump like this. A recent Swedish study concluded that you'd have to drive the average petrol / diesel car for over 8 years before its emissions exceeded those that are simply required to produce the battery for something like this. And that's before you've even started building the actual vehicle.
And there are no green ways of disposing of the vast number of batteries that are going to need disposing of at the end of their life. The EU and other governments pushing electric cars seem to be blindly hoping that some form of technological miracle will happen before that particular disaster arises.
The larger the battery the larger the emissions, so manufacturing the batteries for bloated slob cars like this, which need large, powerful batteries, will create emissions that are far in excess of those produced during the entire life of a small city type ICE car.
But the latest lunatic EU emissions regulations and financial impositions mean that small, economical ICE cars will no longer be viable to produce.
The entire obsession with electric cars is insane, and the EU are the worst perpetrators of one of the most stupid policies ever devised.
But the whole promotion of electric cars is based on stupidity and deliberate misinformation. There's nothing remotely green about some lump like this. A recent Swedish study concluded that you'd have to drive the average petrol / diesel car for over 8 years before its emissions exceeded those that are simply required to produce the battery for something like this. And that's before you've even started building the actual vehicle.
And there are no green ways of disposing of the vast number of batteries that are going to need disposing of at the end of their life. The EU and other governments pushing electric cars seem to be blindly hoping that some form of technological miracle will happen before that particular disaster arises.
The larger the battery the larger the emissions, so manufacturing the batteries for bloated slob cars like this, which need large, powerful batteries, will create emissions that are far in excess of those produced during the entire life of a small city type ICE car.
But the latest lunatic EU emissions regulations and financial impositions mean that small, economical ICE cars will no longer be viable to produce.
The entire obsession with electric cars is insane, and the EU are the worst perpetrators of one of the most stupid policies ever devised.
I tuned into the livestream (1pm where I am!). A bit underwhelming and a very conservative bet when you look at the elements which make up this car. Big Tesla-aping screen - check, trading on an established name with tenuous links - check, rather middling power/torque outputs - check....
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