RE: Lexus GS F | Spotted

[TheFinners]

Camry_Man said:

This or a lightly used Merc S500 coupe? hmm.....

This, every day of the week!

[Sandpit Steve]

Pommy said:

M5 better in all areas? Apart from one - this is less likely to turn in to a bankrupting proposition out of warranty.

The GS-F is 90% of the M5 as a performance saloon car, and 10% of the headache that comes along with it.

And it’s got an n/a engine, they’ll be desirable one day soon.

[ITP]

jamoor said:

In every respect this car will be better than the f10

Probably better than the newer mode too

I will jump in at 18k

You may have to wait a while for 18k, 10 year old ISFs go for that. So about 7 years.
Plus not sure where the writer got the idea year for year an M5 is 20k more?
The only overlap year was 2016 and GSF’s are generally (when one comes up for sale) worth more than M5’s.

[BIRMA]

I have the coupe version of this, they are excellent cars. Most owners on the forum select the manual option on the autotbox dial as this really does make the most of a very good N/A 5 litre engine that enjoys and must be revved. Along with a decent aftermarket exhaust which makes the car sound as it should.
I've owned V8 Esprit's various high powered AMG's including the twin turbo V12 CL65 and my switch to an RCF was one that took me some time to consider.
First of all it's a heavy car but if I've ever wanted to go back on track I'll buy another Lotus or VX220 Turbo because on the road the Lexus has two distinct characteristics.
It can do smooth and serene, the later cars have active suspension which has a ride quality equal to my CL65 then at the selection of a few simple dials you can quickly transform the car into a very competent A road blaster.
One of the main attractions to me were the ownership costs compared to my AMG's etc the Lexus is as cheap as chips. There is a very good customer friendly manufacturers warranty for £400 per year servicing is very low cost too.
Plus for the first time in my car ownership I went for all the toys active suspension and a torque vectoring diff something I'd never consider in my past cars due to maintenance cost/failure but with the Lexus there is never a problem.
I think the Chris Harris video on the RCF just about sums it up, not much good on track but is a good road car which the more you drive it the more you enjoy it.
As a self confessed serial car changer where I get bored after a year of ownership the Lexus has bucked that trend. I expect I'll replace it with the new Corvette C8 coming out soon until then I'll keep the Lexus.

Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 17th November 16:54

[chelme]

If I were in the Market for XFR/M5/THIS, It would probably be a clean XFR, though this would come close...just that the front end looks so ugly. Perhaps with the number plate breaking up the grill, I would forgive it though...M5s seem to be horrendously expensive to maintain...so much for "German Engineering" eh?

[anonymous-user]

Niffty951 said:

Yes, as I car I don't rate this to be more appealing than an XFR 5.0. I'd be surprised if it didn't fall to a similar level.

While it doesn't I'd take the benefits of the jag and risk a bill in place of depreciation

There's a 2015 (65) XFR-S Sportbrake for sale in the PH classifieds for £36k

[Weekendrebuild]

In my opinion even if that car was capable of sub 3 second 0-60 I couldn’t it’s bloody grotesque

[mrfunex]

I’ve had my GSF for just over 2 years now, it’s a fabulous car. More character than an M5 (which I found to be *so* quick and capable as to be... a bit boring?), really quick when you want it to be, and a relaxing luxury car at other times. Absolutely reliable, meaning you can just get out and enjoy it. Can’t wait for Lexus to improve upon it, but at the moment that doesn’t seem to be where they’re going...

[jamoor]

ITP said:

jamoor said:

In every respect this car will be better than the f10

Probably better than the newer mode too

I will jump in at 18k

You may have to wait a while for 18k, 10 year old ISFs go for that. So about 7 years.
Plus not sure where the writer got the idea year for year an M5 is 20k more?
The only overlap year was 2016 and GSF’s are generally (when one comes up for sale) worth more than M5’s.

Indeed that’s the bottom of their depreciation curve.

I’m in no rush

[jamoor]

chelme said:

If I were in the Market for XFR/M5/THIS, It would probably be a clean XFR, though this would come close...just that the front end looks so ugly. Perhaps with the number plate breaking up the grill, I would forgive it though...M5s seem to be horrendously expensive to maintain...so much for "German Engineering" eh?

Indeed people forget that this and the Isf isn’t meant to be the best ownership proposition in their respective classes. The dct boxes are excellent 10% of time and terrible 10% of the time. The gsf box isn’t ever terrible.

[ZX10R NIN]

These are great cars I've supplied two I say to people that they're a modern version of the 4.7 Quattroporte they're a good drive.

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Monday 18th November 23:13

[GT3hopeful]

I see that 67 reg LC500 V8 is on sale for £48k from Lexus dealer so seems to be going same way depreciation wise and probably only worth £40k as a trade in . Lot of car for the money but glad I didn’t buy a new one twelve months ago for £75k when I had a test drive.

[AmitG]

mrfunex said:

Can’t wait for Lexus to improve upon it, but at the moment that doesn’t seem to be where they’re going...

Sadly, I think we have seen the last of this type of car, not just from Lexus, but from anyone. EU regulations have made it essentially impossible for a manufacturer to offer this kind of car in the EU.

I think the best we will see is a highly tuned hybrid powertrain. Toyota/Lexus have said that for their hybrids, fuel economy and emissions are solved problems, and they now want to focus on performance and driving pleasure.

As someone else said, cars like the GSF will be highly collectible one day. And I reckon that in the long term, the GSF will be worth more than the equivalent M5, because the bork factor is so much lower.

[jamoor]

AmitG said:

Sadly, I think we have seen the last of this type of car, not just from Lexus, but from anyone. EU regulations have made it essentially impossible for a manufacturer to offer this kind of car in the EU.

I think the best we will see is a highly tuned hybrid powertrain. Toyota/Lexus have said that for their hybrids, fuel economy and emissions are solved problems, and they now want to focus on performance and driving pleasure.

As someone else said, cars like the GSF will be highly collectible one day. And I reckon that in the long term, the GSF will be worth more than the equivalent M5, because the bork factor is so much lower.

Not only that but they are uncommon

[ES335]

It's "the full gamut" not "gambit".

[Pommy]

GT3hopeful said:

I see that 67 reg LC500 V8 is on sale for £48k from Lexus dealer so seems to be going same way depreciation wise and probably only worth £40k as a trade in . Lot of car for the money but glad I didn’t buy a new one twelve months ago for £75k when I had a test drive.

What did you think of it when you drove it?

[C.MW]

The only performance sedan I will consider in the current state of the market. The sound of the big NA engine alone is enough to convince me. Reliability that comes with it is a bonus.

[Pothole]

"conspicuous good looks"?? Am I missing something?

[forzaminardi]

I'm a bit of a Lexus fanboy after doing some work with them some time ago. It may be marketing guff, but they give the impression of genuinely obsessing over aspects of their car that make them tangibly different in character and very appealing products. I had a go in a GS-F and while I'm not expert or experienced enough to compare handling or performance characteristics with similar cars from other manufacturers, what I can say is that I very badly wanted to own one. An absolutely mental car, and all the better for it.

[asimmalik]

jamoor said:

The F10 is a terrible car, too powerful for 2wd.

Not sure if this is trolling or not. May be too powerful to really enjoy on our roads but not what I would call a "terrible car"

Edited by asimmalik on Monday 18th November 16:02