RE: Lexus GS F | Spotted

RE: Lexus GS F | Spotted

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GT3hopeful

247 posts

118 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Pommy said:
What did you think of it when you drove it?
I have soft spot for Lexus V8 having owned two Ls400 in the past which were incredibly reliable ,powerful and comfortable if a little dull.
I was really ready to order the LC500 before test drive and I found it to be as expected a
nice really well built car. Problem was that it didn’t seem that exciting to drive as probably too refined compared
to the V8 vantage roadster I had at that time. I thought engine/exhaust was too quiet and only made itself heard at top of rev range when it did make a great noise but you wouldn’t hear it that often in normal driving.

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Sandpit Steve said:
The GS-F is 90% of the M5 as a performance saloon car, and 10% of the headache that comes along with it.
ZX10R NIN said:
These are great cars I've supplied to I say to people that they're a modern version of the 4.7 Quattroporte they're a good drive.
+1


shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Tabs said:
And if you wish, you can keep the extended warranty going until the car is 10 years old and less than 140,000 miles. At roughly £500 per annum as well! What other performance car can you do that with?
Holy st! Is that really the case?

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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shalmaneser said:
Holy st! Is that really the case?
Yes they have confidence in their products

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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With Lexus servicing being relatively cheap and the warranty so comprehensive it is beyond me why an owner wouldn't have a car serviced. I know a Lexus forum member went to look at a blue GSF that had no service record whatsoever.

mrfunex

545 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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BIRMA said:
With Lexus servicing being relatively cheap and the warranty so comprehensive it is beyond me why an owner wouldn't have a car serviced. I know a Lexus forum member went to look at a blue GSF that had no service record whatsoever.
Just for reference, I pay about £31 per month for my service plan with Lexus on my GSF. The servicing alternates between a minor and a major one (once a year at my mileage) and 10% off parts and labour should anything be required. Haven’t needed a fault fixing yet on the GSF, or my old ISF, or NX300h, GS450h, RX450h... you get the picture.

I can’t understand why anyone would buy one (£78k?) and not service it.

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

228 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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AmitG said:
As someone else said, cars like the GSF will be highly collectible one day. And I reckon that in the long term, the GSF will be worth more than the equivalent M5, because the bork factor is so much lower.
Road & Track agrees with you.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-ma...

"In its combination of performance, sensible luxury, low-profile presence, and anvil-solid build quality, the GS-F reminds me quite a bit of another post-production enthusiast favorite: the W124-generation Mercedes-Benz 500E. That, too, was an unassuming three-box sledgehammer with the virtues of both track rat and upscale commuter car. Like the GS-F, it was priced ambitiously — but it has retained quite a bit of value."

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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A bit OT but still relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cStFGWLv1sg

These guys have nailed exactly what the ISF is.

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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They also do a decent in depth review here of the GSF, can't for the life of me work out why Doug whatever his name is gets so many views with his crap superficial reviews when guys like this do such an informative review and hardly get any views. https://youtu.be/dKX4xzsKuII

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

94 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Augustus Windsock said:
Anyhoo, compared to the mentioned M5, why would you want one? The M5 is surely better in every department (for me), and in addition the Lexus always looks over-bodied or under-wheeled unlike the M5 which has perfect proportions

Edited by Augustus Windsock on Sunday 17th November 08:28
I'd be a tad embarrassed to be in an recent M5, but to my eyes one of these seems a lovely understated machine. Judging by sales figures at least, I realise I'm in the minority here...

Tallow

1,624 posts

162 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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I get misty eyed and look at the GS-F used listings over here from time to time. They're a similar price, but once you add tax and much higher insurance costs to the equation, it becomes a little less easy to justify. I'll do it eventually, I'm sure. My time with an IS-F completely won me over and I'm sure the GS-F is nothing but an improvement.

As a BMW owner, I'd have one over an M5 any day of the week

Weekendrebuild

1,004 posts

64 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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I totally disagree I think if you have the disposable income or know modern cars inside out . The M5 is streets ahead there’s know comparison really to the Lexus. The Lexus to my eyes Is an old mans car

Tallow

1,624 posts

162 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Each to their own, I guess. I considered a good few cars before I got the IS-F, which was a left field choice. I don't regret it at all, I enjoyed it greatly, plus it was supremely reliable (which can't be said for a lot of modern BMWs in my experience, sadly).

As for imagine as an old mans car, speaking as a man in his early 40s, I'm not really worried about image as much as I am about my enjoyment of the car.

But hey, variety is the spice of life, eh?

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Weekendrebuild said:
I totally disagree I think if you have the disposable income or know modern cars inside out . The M5 is streets ahead there’s know comparison really to the Lexus. The Lexus to my eyes Is an old mans car
Speaking as an old man to a degree I agree with you, I had a brand new E28 M5 back in the day and the roads were less congested, no speed cameras and nobody knew what it was plus nobody thought you were a knob.
Regardless of income the owning proposition of modern M5's is not quite as rosey as I would like. Okay the M5 is a super accomplished vehicle but the modern versions just don't appeal to me. I think someone summed it up very well in perhaps 90% of an M5's ability but only 10% of ownership headaches.
Just before buying my Lexus RCF I tried a special order very late M3 because the N/A V8 engine appealed to me, no getting away from it the way the car seemed to shrink around you and the input response was fantastic, but I just felt like I had to drive it like that all the time. Soon after I tried the Lexus and what I liked was the ability to drive quickly very much like the M3 but I could put the Lexus into comfort mode which for perhaps 90% of todays driving suits it more.

Edited by BIRMA on Wednesday 20th November 17:00

Weekendrebuild

1,004 posts

64 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Exactly we all like different things . I can see the Reasoning behind the enjoyment of the Lexus reliability is a rather nice thing laugh but just not the comparison to an m5 was my point .

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Weekendrebuild said:
Exactly we all like different things . I can see the Reasoning behind the enjoyment of the Lexus reliability is a rather nice thing laugh but just not the comparison to an m5 was my point .
I'd agree that you can't compare an M5 to these as the lexus is leagues ahead.

The F10 M5 is a big fast saloon car and nothing else. The Lexus will be engineered to perfection and have a great sound, the M5 sounds like an asthmatic playing a harmonica.

Weekendrebuild

1,004 posts

64 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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There’s nothing asthmatic about my v10s. my wife had an f10 an it was a very fast car all be it the soundtrack wasn’t the same

TeaVR

1,227 posts

228 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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I've owned an IS-F, an RC-F and I have a GS-F in my garage. The build quality of the GS-F blows me away.


Edited by TeaVR on Thursday 21st November 13:12

Pommy

14,264 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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GT3hopeful said:
Pommy said:
What did you think of it when you drove it?
I have soft spot for Lexus V8 having owned two Ls400 in the past which were incredibly reliable ,powerful and comfortable if a little dull.
I was really ready to order the LC500 before test drive and I found it to be as expected a
nice really well built car. Problem was that it didn’t seem that exciting to drive as probably too refined compared
to the V8 vantage roadster I had at that time. I thought engine/exhaust was too quiet and only made itself heard at top of rev range when it did make a great noise but you wouldn’t hear it that often in normal driving.
Thanks for sharing - thats a shame they are truly stunning in a world where stunning is often wrongly used.

With regards to interior quality of Lexus i never really knew what they meant and then saw pictures of the interior of the RC - i thought it looked plastic, flat and cheap. Well, i was 100% dead wrong when i drove one. The quality of the leather, switches, even the plastics were absolutely amazing. It just felt so lovely and upmarket. It makes my mates 4 series BMW and C Class look very low rent.



jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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TeaVR said:
I've owned an IS-F, an RC-F and I have a GS-F in my garage. The build quality of the GS-F blows me away.
Legend.

Mod edit.

Edited by Scrump on Thursday 21st November 13:20