RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E officially unveiled

RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E officially unveiled

Monday 18th November

Ford Mustang Mach-E breaks cover

Hold on to your hats, Mustang fans; the newest version is an electric SUV...



Well, if you thought reimagining the Puma as an SUV was bold, you ain't seen nothing yet... Unfortunately not a cruel misunderstanding, Ford really has reinvented the Mustang - albeit as a range addition, rather than entire replacement - as this, the all-electric Mach-E. Best sit yourself down for this one...

Said to embody the core Mustang characteristics of "freedom, progress, fast performance and a touch of rebellion", the Mach-E is a purely electric SUV; according to its maker, this is a "sleek, beautiful SUV" no less, though they're sort of obliged to say that. While there are some Mustang cues in the badges, light details and bonnet design, the initial impression is much more of generic SUV-coupe-thing along the X4, Cayenne Coupe and Urus line, with a sloping rear screen and narrow glasshouse. The powertrain does at least keep the bonnet line low, however. Exact dimensions and weights haven't yet been released.

Due for launch next year, the Mustang Mach-E will be offered as either a rear- or four-wheel drive car with a standard (75.7kWh) or long-range (98.8kWh) battery. The batteries themselves are comprised of 288 lithium-ion cells for the standard car and 376 for the extended range model, sited low in the car for the benefit of handling. Charging capacity is up to 150kW, meaning a DC fast charge station can add up to 57 miles of range in 10 minutes (depending on Mustang spec). Ford believes the majority of customers will charge at home; as such it will be offering a Connected Wallbox to Mach-E buyers. With five times the charge power of a conventional socket, it will add around 38 miles of range an hour.


Beyond that, the connected nav will update charging locations, and drivers of the Mach-E will have access to the FordPass Charging Network and the Ionity group of fast chargers. There should be little range anxiety, put simply, given Ford's effort with a charging infrastructure with the Mustang. You make your own jokes now about walking being the preferred option.

Back to the car. Ford reckons at its most efficient (2WD and extended range), the Mustang Mach-E will be capable of more than 370 miles on WLTP, which is certainly laudable. The car is said to be "targeting" 337hp and 417lb ft, though a GT version - yep, that nameplate is coming along for the ride as well - will offer an estimated 465hp and 612lb ft, with 62mph arriving in less than five seconds. Just imagine that on the strip...

To harness that power, the Mustang Mach-E 4 will use an all-wheel drive system that independently applies torque to either axle, though there isn't any mention yet of individual torque vectoring. Interestingly, too, the Mach-E will be available with a set of Brembo's new 'Flexira' calipers, purported to offer the performance of a fixed caliper with the dimensions of a floating one. Magneride dampers are standard on the GT and presumably optional on other models.


The Mach-E driver will interact with this technology via three drive modes: Whisper, Engage and Unbridled (yes, really). Each will alter the steering, augmented sound and lighting for "a distinct sensory experience." They'll be doing that from an interior unlike anything we've seen from a Mustang - or indeed from a Ford - at any point before. Dominated by a 15.5-inchtouchscreen display - can't think where that came from - with a new iteration of SYNC that uses machine learning, the cabin is said to be a "fusion of sleek, modern design and smart functionality." It's been explicitly designed, in fact, with family use in mind, space for people and luggage prioritised, and so there's up to 1,420 litres of boot space as well as various storage spots dotted around inside.

And breathe. For now at least, that's about it for the Mach-E, though we can probably all agree that that's a fair bit to take in. This is just the start, too, the Mustang one of 14 electrified Ford coming before 2020 is out. So best get used to this. It's Thunderbird MPV after the Mach-E, right?


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rossh

Original Poster:

35 posts

230 months

Monday 18th November
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Ok, so that is one ugly car.

PLUS it bastardises the Mustang brand in a way only a true masochist would know how.

If you wanted people to scoff at electric car efforts, this is another great effort...

Shucks...

Gameface

10,601 posts

25 months

Monday 18th November
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All very worthy I'm sure but by calling it a Mustang they have lumbered it with scorn and derision from the word go.

jon-yprpe

126 posts

36 months

Monday 18th November
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It’s ugly if you have the current Mustang in your head.

But look at it as a separate model and it’s not too bad. If they can get over 300 mile range, at a decent price and if Ford bang chargers all over the UK, this is quite interesting. ESP the GT with over 600 ft/lb of torque.

Rawwr

22,528 posts

182 months

Monday 18th November
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Gameface said:
All very worthy I'm sure but by calling it a Mustang they have lumbered it with scorn and derision from the word go.
Pretty much what I was going to say. If they'd have called it something - ANYTHING - else, then it would've had a much greater chance of not being massively disliked.

Arsecati

388 posts

65 months

Monday 18th November
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I don't think it is possible for me to care less about this. It may well be the way the world is going - don't mean I have to join in. Bah humbug, grumply old man, etc., etc., etc.

mstrbkr

7,140 posts

146 months

Monday 18th November
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Rawwr said:
Gameface said:
All very worthy I'm sure but by calling it a Mustang they have lumbered it with scorn and derision from the word go.
Pretty much what I was going to say. If they'd have called it something - ANYTHING - else, then it would've had a much greater chance of not being massively disliked.
100% agree. It's easy for people to say that people should just look at the product and forget the name, but unfortunately it's got Mustang badges and styling all over it.

SturdyHSV

6,719 posts

115 months

Monday 18th November
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It'll be a bit awkward that the SUVstang will be quicker than the 'proper' one hehe

Also, a doff of the cap to the author for having the classifieds link say 'actual Ford Mustang' beer

Harry_523

194 posts

47 months

Monday 18th November
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Actually think that looks quite good but they f****ed up putting the Mustang name on it. Going to make it a very controversial car when it needn't be

thelostboy

3,657 posts

173 months

Monday 18th November
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I think if you view it in complete isolation, for an SUV, it is actually a good looking car.

That iPad thing in the dash though... can they really be that uninspired to simply copy Tesla, and make it bigger?

frayz

1,390 posts

107 months

Monday 18th November
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Personally i think they have nailed the styling on this.
Certainly one of the better looking offerings of E-SUV.

Mustang branding doesn't particularly bother me, and it doesn't really matter what they could have called it, someone will moan about it.
If it makes money for Ford to keep making real V8 Mustangs and RS products then more power to them.

Best of luck Ford. smile

FA57REN

168 posts

3 months

Monday 18th November
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jon-yprpe said:
But look at it as a separate model and it’s not too bad
On its own it could be a new Mazda crossover thing, or a Hyundai. Or anything not French, really.

Why is the cabin set so far back behind the front axle? Even Chrysler realised that wasn't necessary for an EV, over a decade ago...


Oldwolf

433 posts

141 months

Monday 18th November
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I like it and could happily have it as my daily except I think it would get a bit tiresome...

Q. What do you drive?
A. A Mustang..... No not one of those

TheOrangePeril

380 posts

128 months

Monday 18th November
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The name is not some PR accident... Of course they want it to be controversial, it gives it air time. All publicity is... etc
The target market for the regular Mustang is not the same as the target market for this. Those who scoff will continue not buying an electric SUV whereas other customers that the Mustang alone could not capture (ex-Mustang owners that now need room for the kids, car fans having second thoughts about their carbon footprint etc) will be absorbed by this.

Calling it a Mustang ensures far more coverage in all the car mags/programs/forums than it would have received as a new Model Y rival. It also gives it an image boost in China and the region, peeps that couldn't care less about another generic Ford SUV will get more excited about a 'Mustang'.

ChevyChase77

982 posts

6 months

Monday 18th November
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It's a Jag SUV.

Dave4490

17 posts

79 months

Monday 18th November
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I'm going to call it the Mach 0.14 on account of its top speed.

loveice

511 posts

195 months

Monday 18th November
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jon-yprpe said:
It’s ugly if you have the current Mustang in your head.

But look at it as a separate model and it’s not too bad. If they can get over 300 mile range, at a decent price and if Ford bang chargers all over the UK, this is quite interesting. ESP the GT with over 600 ft/lb of torque.
Totally agree. I don't think for the short run by calling it a Mustang will do any good for markets which have strong opinion of what a Mustang should be or look like. But, for the long run Ford's decision for call its electric soft road SUVs Mustang might be a good thing after all.

One thing might be hard for us to understand is that most global Ford's customers in the next decades or so don't care about how a Mustang should look like or should be, it's a kind of "famous' name for them nevertheless. And as a purposely designed electric car that probably has a lower centre of gravity, this compact SUV might even handle better than the current petrol powered three box shaped Mustang. If the argument of American pony cars are not meant to be compared on handling, it's the straight line acceleration that matters. Well, this new Mustang SUV is electric powered...

Hairymonster

501 posts

53 months

Monday 18th November
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One of the defining characteristics of the Mustang is the sound of tha glorious V8 lump.

Something with a Mustang badge on it which sounds like a sewing machine will be somewhat emasculated.

Deranged Rover

225 posts

22 months

Monday 18th November
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No. Just..................no.

Lt. Coulomb

120 posts

2 months

Monday 18th November
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That nose cone... hurl

bloomen

2,961 posts

107 months

Monday 18th November
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FA57REN said:
Why is the cabin set so far back behind the front axle? Even Chrysler realised that wasn't necessary for an EV, over a decade ago...
Indeed. Weird how the packaging possibilities of electrification haven't been explored very much at all when it massively frees up design. Perhaps it's because of pedestrian legislation.

That Ipad thing gawping at me would drive me nuts.