RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E officially unveiled

RE: Ford Mustang Mach-E officially unveiled

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RobDickinson

27,740 posts

202 months

Monday 18th November
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
jon-yprpe said:
My son - 17 and just about to take his driving test - only cares about electric cars, which are deeply cool and interesting to him in the same way the ICE cats are deeply uncool and old. He’s applying for mechanical engineering at Uni, this is the future folks.

He’s even making me question my adherence to ICE, and until 6 months ago I owned three V8s.
Without meaning to be rude, his opinion might well change once he can actually drive and has driven some proper cars.

Also electric is far from the only possibility going into the future. I was reading that there is a lot of research being done into bio fuel from algae, for example.

I personally feel, and I could be wrong of course, that electric might be superseded or atleast rivalled by a renewable flammable fuel.

I certainly have my fingers firmly crossed!
No he wont, no it wont.

Burning stuff is old and bad, if anything kids will start seeing ICE cars in a poorer light over time.

HRCM

68 posts

37 months

Monday 18th November
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A little part of me died when I read this. Stupid name too.

Evanivitch

4,979 posts

70 months

Monday 18th November
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Without meaning to be rude, his opinion might well change once he can actually drive and has driven some proper cars.

Also electric is far from the only possibility going into the future. I was reading that there is a lot of research being done into bio fuel from algae, for example.

I personally feel, and I could be wrong of course, that electric might be superseded or atleast rivalled by a renewable flammable fuel.

I certainly have my fingers firmly crossed!
What part of burning stuff in an urban environment is a good idea? Renewable or not.

Evanivitch

4,979 posts

70 months

Monday 18th November
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RobDickinson said:
Where is 8 seconds coming from?


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As per above, Autocar.

unsprung

3,826 posts

72 months

Monday 18th November
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The US cars aren't slow. Three of the US variants are 5.5 seconds to 60 MPH. A fourth one is 3.5 seconds. The slowest is 6.5 seconds.

For three of the US cars, the base spec is used. For two others, AWD has been added, optionally. Here's what the US product page says:

SELECT
"Mid 5-second" 0 to 60 MPH
with standard range battery and AWD
(AWD is an upgrade cost of $2700 over the base for this variant)

PREMIUM
"Mid 5-second" 0 to 60 MPH
with standard or extended battery and AWD
(AWD is an upgrade cost of $2700 over the base for this variant)

CALIFORNIA ROUTE 1
"Mid 6-second" 0 to 60 MPH
with extended battery and RWD
(base variant; no optional equipment)

GT
"Mid 3-second" 0 to 60 MPH
with extended battery and AWD GT equipment
(base variant; no optional equipment)

FIRST EDITION
"Mid 5-second" 0 to 60 MPH
with extended battery and AWD
(base variant; no optional equipment)



kurt535

3,406 posts

65 months

Monday 18th November
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very sorry to see the name Mustang applied to this thing.

every suv seems to moulded from the same blob of clay.


David87

5,360 posts

160 months

Monday 18th November
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I think the performance is okay. The GT one will be quicker than an actual Mustang GT, so that doesn’t seem too bad! In all honesty, my Tesla Model 3 Performance is totally, unnecessarily fast.

Betterbuyone

6 posts

8 months

Monday 18th November
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LOL. This Mustang would get me within 40 miles of my break in Cornwall before looking for someone with a charging point.

RobDickinson

27,740 posts

202 months

Monday 18th November
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Betterbuyone said:
LOL. This Mustang would get me within 40 miles of my break in Cornwall before looking for someone with a charging point.
So, somewhere on the latter half of your trip you'd need a 10 min stop or so to topup those last 40 miles, thats after driving ~300 and several hours...

ReaperCushions

3,820 posts

132 months

Monday 18th November
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kurt535 said:
very sorry to see the name Mustang applied to this thing.

every suv seems to moulded from the same blob of clay.
Personally I think its genius... you wouldn't have noticed or really cared if they'd called it the 'E-Kuga' or something equally boring and nondescript.

Using the Mustang moniker raises emotions and interest they could not raise through any other name. Yes some hardcore muscle car lovers don't like it... but Ford don't care about that.

tubs

48 posts

155 months

Monday 18th November
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J.H.C that's hideous!!!

unsprung

3,826 posts

72 months

Monday 18th November
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ReaperCushions said:
Using the Mustang moniker raises emotions and interest they could not raise through any other name.
+1

Extending the brand name, design language and sporty cachet of Mustang... helps to transform the opaque world of battery-electric vehicles into something more familiar.

People have a lot of questions and concerns about BEVs. Ford is working hard to make it easier for people to buy and own their first electric car.

Bonus points: Ford is doing this in the most popular product segment today (the SUV).


LarryUSA

4,284 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Betterbuyone said:
LOL. This Mustang would get me within 40 miles of my break in Cornwall before looking for someone with a charging point.
Then it’s not for you, what’s your point?

Miserablegit

922 posts

57 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Will no one think of the children!!
Just think - parent announces he’s going to buy a new car and it’s a mustang. Offspring Googles it and has images of Bullitt and 5.0 v8 only to be greeted with a Tesla.
Irrespective of the car’s own merits it’s tragic to call it a Mustang.

unpc

2,108 posts

161 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Betterbuyone said:
LOL. This Mustang would get me within 40 miles of my break in Cornwall before looking for someone with a charging point.
LOL, that is hilarious.

Daaaveee

753 posts

171 months

Tuesday 19th November
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unpc said:
LOL, that is hilarious.
ROFLMAO - literally the funniest thing I've read, I mean who is going to stop for a 10min top up on a 5 hour drive?! Nobody in their right mind could ever spare that much time!!!!!11

stabilio

227 posts

119 months

Tuesday 19th November
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RobDickinson said:
Burning stuff is old and bad, if anything kids will start seeing ICE cars in a poorer light over time.
My kids and their friends (all aged 12) who were here last weekend went crazy with excitement when i mentioned in passing we might be getting a Tesla.
My current Audi RS and previous M3 to them are just noisy things they didn't really like so definately a new generation coming through and Tesla is a cool brand to the younger folks it seems.


Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 19th November 10:19

Hatson

1,077 posts

70 months

Tuesday 19th November
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They are simply making a case (in the design) for stealing away one of the most famous names for use in boosting sales on what will likely become a world-beating range of SUV’s.smile

RacerMike

2,561 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th November
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stabilio said:
RobDickinson said:
Burning stuff is old and bad, if anything kids will start seeing ICE cars in a poorer light over time.
My kids and their friends (all aged 12) who were here last weekend went crazy with excitement when i mentioned in passing we might be getting a Tesla.
My current Audi RS and previous M3 to them are just noisy things they didn't really like so definately a new generation coming through and Tesla is a cool brand to the younger folks it seems.


Edited by stabilio on Tuesday 19th November 10:19
And ultimately, it means there’s hope for another generation of car enthusiasts. So what if they’re not into ICE. They’re into cars!! This is a good thing. We’re constantly told young people don’t like cars anymore. I don’t entirely agree, and this would support that.

sidesauce

1,099 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Without meaning to be rude, his opinion might well change once he can actually drive and has driven some proper cars.

Also electric is far from the only possibility going into the future. I was reading that there is a lot of research being done into bio fuel from algae, for example.

I personally feel, and I could be wrong of course, that electric might be superseded or at least rivalled by a renewable flammable fuel.

I certainly have my fingers firmly crossed!
You sound like someone who would have scoffed at the idea of horseless carriages ever replacing the horse as viable form of personal/individual transport. I find it funny as it's obvious you have trouble realising young people don't see ICE as a desirable thing anymore.

"Proper" cars, by your definition, are no longer seen in that way by youngest generation. You never saw a horse and carriage as "proper" transport so why would they think the way you do!?