Road Rage - have you ever got out of your car?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I think one thing that is missing with many drivers these days is the ability to simply hold your hand up or bip the hazards to acknowledge you've screwed up.
Definitely this.Fairly recently while I was travelling on a main road a bloke in a newish estate car came straight out in front of me from a turning on the left, without slowing at all. I was in an old Kangoo van and was stood up in the seat on the brakes ! How we missed each other I don't know, it was close. But as soon as he spotted me he flashed the hazards and shot off into the distance and out of sight. That simple quick gesture of acknowledging me and I just thought fair play, let it go. He was on some kind of mission that's for sure.
If anyone has and the outcome was being chased for about 40 mins by a lunatic with a lump hammer through the outskirts of Huddersfield then you met my friend who has short Very angry man syndrome and would probably have stoved your head in had he caught you... serious anger issues, I tend to not get involved because there are people like him amongst us :-)
Edited by 200Plus Club on Tuesday 19th November 06:40
Twice recently though not out of rage and nor am I powerfully built... but...
First, driving through a housing estate, blind corner either cars parked so one lane. Young girl in a Golf meets older chap in an Accord. Stale mate. I stopped well back behind the Accord to given him space to reverse back into a gap. Golf girlie has two cars now behind her and can't get all to back up. Accord chap refuses to yield. Girl in Golf starting to get visibly upset at the situation. Chap in a Accord gets out and starts his approach... I get out and make mine, by the time I arrive he's giving her dogs abuse but suddenly backs down as I'm there as is another chap. We both tell him to move. He reverses whilst still gobbling off.
Second, driving a LWB van again, hounding estate. Cars parked up and roads clear as I reverse into a small opening in order to turn round (dead end further up, no space to turn and can't reverse on to the main road) but as I'm at 90deg to the road, cut forward then move so now at 45degs and starting to face the direction out... scruffy bloke in comes up the road, stopping about 2ft away and blocks my exit out the road and also, due to the angle, I can't go back as I'd need to go forward first to get lined up. It's complex but basically he pretty much hemmed me in at 45degs then sat looking smug, arms crossed. I raised my hands in a "what the f...k." manner and he did a slow clap. I got out and before my feet even hit the tar, he took off backwards. I completed the turn and as I drive past him, now waiting in a gap, I stopped and put the window down simply to point out that I had nowhere to go and say sorry (company van, we don't need complaints!) but he ignored me whilst staring dead ahead.
Neither cases got me angry, I see this sort of crap daily but it's usually a case of people feeling invincible in their cars (or behind a keyboard) but seem to suddenly lose their bottle as soon as the doors open. And getting out is a last resort in case one such roaster is a bonefide nutter with a knife.
They walk amongst us...
First, driving through a housing estate, blind corner either cars parked so one lane. Young girl in a Golf meets older chap in an Accord. Stale mate. I stopped well back behind the Accord to given him space to reverse back into a gap. Golf girlie has two cars now behind her and can't get all to back up. Accord chap refuses to yield. Girl in Golf starting to get visibly upset at the situation. Chap in a Accord gets out and starts his approach... I get out and make mine, by the time I arrive he's giving her dogs abuse but suddenly backs down as I'm there as is another chap. We both tell him to move. He reverses whilst still gobbling off.
Second, driving a LWB van again, hounding estate. Cars parked up and roads clear as I reverse into a small opening in order to turn round (dead end further up, no space to turn and can't reverse on to the main road) but as I'm at 90deg to the road, cut forward then move so now at 45degs and starting to face the direction out... scruffy bloke in comes up the road, stopping about 2ft away and blocks my exit out the road and also, due to the angle, I can't go back as I'd need to go forward first to get lined up. It's complex but basically he pretty much hemmed me in at 45degs then sat looking smug, arms crossed. I raised my hands in a "what the f...k." manner and he did a slow clap. I got out and before my feet even hit the tar, he took off backwards. I completed the turn and as I drive past him, now waiting in a gap, I stopped and put the window down simply to point out that I had nowhere to go and say sorry (company van, we don't need complaints!) but he ignored me whilst staring dead ahead.
Neither cases got me angry, I see this sort of crap daily but it's usually a case of people feeling invincible in their cars (or behind a keyboard) but seem to suddenly lose their bottle as soon as the doors open. And getting out is a last resort in case one such roaster is a bonefide nutter with a knife.
They walk amongst us...
A few years back I was in Bradford town centre picking the wife up from work, I stumbled across an incident taking place opposite the Honda garage where by a skinny young Asian chap was bouncing up and down shouting and waving his arms around at head height. The well built short haired lady was sat in her Corsa and wouldn’t respond to “angry dude” me I just wanted to get past because angry dudes golf was in the middle of the road, he kicked her wing mirror off and that’s where it got interesting, she jumped out got in angry dudes face he puts his hands up and she punched him in combo about 4 times knocked him clean out she casually got in her car and drove off!
So me being decent I helped the dazed and confused angry young chap upright asking him if he was okay and if needed an ambulance as he wasn’t making much sense, bizarrely he was trying to ring someone saying he’d been jumped by 2 blokes but his phone was upside down and had no battery which had dropped out, at that point lucky for him 2 traffic officers turned up and got him an ambulance, I had to give a statement at my house the copper couldn’t stop laughing saying there’s always a bigger person around the corner
So me being decent I helped the dazed and confused angry young chap upright asking him if he was okay and if needed an ambulance as he wasn’t making much sense, bizarrely he was trying to ring someone saying he’d been jumped by 2 blokes but his phone was upside down and had no battery which had dropped out, at that point lucky for him 2 traffic officers turned up and got him an ambulance, I had to give a statement at my house the copper couldn’t stop laughing saying there’s always a bigger person around the corner
Never have and hopefully won't.
Came pretty close recently though, bit of an odd one as I had driven into a narrow bit of road to then turn left, as I'm over halfway through a woman from the major road up ahead accelerates, turns in and blocks me, then starts gesturing for me to move back. I obviously refuse and start gesturing back but she doesn't budge. Was pretty tempted to, had seen there was no dashcam or passengers etc but just decided it wasn't worth it. Reversed back a tiny bit and manoeuvred round very close to her car then gave her the finger and a big smile as I went past. Still have no idea why she did it, would have been quicker for her to just wait.
Came pretty close recently though, bit of an odd one as I had driven into a narrow bit of road to then turn left, as I'm over halfway through a woman from the major road up ahead accelerates, turns in and blocks me, then starts gesturing for me to move back. I obviously refuse and start gesturing back but she doesn't budge. Was pretty tempted to, had seen there was no dashcam or passengers etc but just decided it wasn't worth it. Reversed back a tiny bit and manoeuvred round very close to her car then gave her the finger and a big smile as I went past. Still have no idea why she did it, would have been quicker for her to just wait.
I enjoy the bit where they gesticulate for me to pull over, wait for them to get out and get near my car then slowly reverse or drive forward where they are close but no cigar - always funny when they keep running like theyre going to catch me. Then drive off.
That or goad them to speed up when near a speed camera/red light camera...
That or goad them to speed up when near a speed camera/red light camera...
Twice in over 52 years of driving and both happened after I was 55.
The first was when I was driving home from work. I was turning right on a dual carriageway at a set of lights. The junction had a stop line and then a pedestrian, lights controlled, crossing and then some space after the pedestrian crossing to wait to cross onto another dual carriageway.
I pulled up behind the stop line and there was another car in front beyond the crossing waiting for a gap to turn right. A car pulled in behind me and in my mirror the driver seemed a bit agitated, I didn't know why but subsequent events seemed to suggest he thought I should have pulled up behind the car in front thereby blocking the pedestrian walkway.
Anyway, the lights turned to amber the car in front immediately was able to make the turn and I did not move. I could then see the bloke behind me throwing himself about in his car, he then reversed down the road a bit, pulled out, overtook me on the inside and pulled in front of me past the stop line and across the pedestrian crossing. As you could imagine I was a bit annoyed about this. Still I did nothing and then the lights changed and we both were able to to make the turn, as I suspected and hoped, he made the turn put his foot down and stayed in the outside lane of the dual carriageway, even though the inside lane was clear, I just stayed left and put the hammer down, I rapidly came alongside him and stayed there because I knew 800 metres down the road there was another set of lights and the right hand lane turned into a turn right only lane.
He suddenly realised this but I kept alongside him trapping him into turning right. At the lights he leapt out of his car and banged on my roof, he was a young lad at least 30 years my junior, I am pretty cool normally but got out and explained what would happen if he didn't get back into his car sharpish. (As an explanation, I am not a big bloke, near six foot but ten stone at best. However in my youth I was an amateur boxer and I am not worried about getting into a fight. I have never instigated a fight though, I will only react if threatened. I have been though, in my youth, been arrested twice, handcuffed and locked up for alleged assault, one went to court subsequently but I was found not guilty because I was found to be acting in self defence).
Given, I was giving him my best 'have a go if you are hard enough' look, he just got back into his car and made his right turn!
The first was when I was driving home from work. I was turning right on a dual carriageway at a set of lights. The junction had a stop line and then a pedestrian, lights controlled, crossing and then some space after the pedestrian crossing to wait to cross onto another dual carriageway.
I pulled up behind the stop line and there was another car in front beyond the crossing waiting for a gap to turn right. A car pulled in behind me and in my mirror the driver seemed a bit agitated, I didn't know why but subsequent events seemed to suggest he thought I should have pulled up behind the car in front thereby blocking the pedestrian walkway.
Anyway, the lights turned to amber the car in front immediately was able to make the turn and I did not move. I could then see the bloke behind me throwing himself about in his car, he then reversed down the road a bit, pulled out, overtook me on the inside and pulled in front of me past the stop line and across the pedestrian crossing. As you could imagine I was a bit annoyed about this. Still I did nothing and then the lights changed and we both were able to to make the turn, as I suspected and hoped, he made the turn put his foot down and stayed in the outside lane of the dual carriageway, even though the inside lane was clear, I just stayed left and put the hammer down, I rapidly came alongside him and stayed there because I knew 800 metres down the road there was another set of lights and the right hand lane turned into a turn right only lane.
He suddenly realised this but I kept alongside him trapping him into turning right. At the lights he leapt out of his car and banged on my roof, he was a young lad at least 30 years my junior, I am pretty cool normally but got out and explained what would happen if he didn't get back into his car sharpish. (As an explanation, I am not a big bloke, near six foot but ten stone at best. However in my youth I was an amateur boxer and I am not worried about getting into a fight. I have never instigated a fight though, I will only react if threatened. I have been though, in my youth, been arrested twice, handcuffed and locked up for alleged assault, one went to court subsequently but I was found not guilty because I was found to be acting in self defence).
Given, I was giving him my best 'have a go if you are hard enough' look, he just got back into his car and made his right turn!
Tigger2050 said:
Twice in over 52 years of driving and both happened after I was 55.
The first was when I was driving home from work. I was turning right on a dual carriageway at a set of lights. The junction had a stop line and then a pedestrian, lights controlled, crossing and then some space after the pedestrian crossing to wait to cross onto another dual carriageway.
I pulled up behind the stop line and there was another car in front beyond the crossing waiting for a gap to turn right. A car pulled in behind me and in my mirror the driver seemed a bit agitated, I didn't know why but subsequent events seemed to suggest he thought I should have pulled up behind the car in front thereby blocking the pedestrian walkway.
Anyway, the lights turned to amber the car in front immediately was able to make the turn and I did not move. I could then see the bloke behind me throwing himself about in his car, he then reversed down the road a bit, pulled out, overtook me on the inside and pulled in front of me past the stop line and across the pedestrian crossing. As you could imagine I was a bit annoyed about this. Still I did nothing and then the lights changed and we both were able to to make the turn, as I suspected and hoped, he made the turn put his foot down and stayed in the outside lane of the dual carriageway, even though the inside lane was clear, I just stayed left and put the hammer down, I rapidly came alongside him and stayed there because I knew 800 metres down the road there was another set of lights and the right hand lane turned into a turn right only lane.
He suddenly realised this but I kept alongside him trapping him into turning right. At the lights he leapt out of his car and banged on my roof, he was a young lad at least 30 years my junior, I am pretty cool normally but got out and explained what would happen if he didn't get back into his car sharpish. (As an explanation, I am not a big bloke, near six foot but ten stone at best. However in my youth I was an amateur boxer and I am not worried about getting into a fight. I have never instigated a fight though, I will only react if threatened. I have been though, in my youth, been arrested twice, handcuffed and locked up for alleged assault, one went to court subsequently but I was found not guilty because I was found to be acting in self defence).
Given, I was giving him my best 'have a go if you are hard enough' look, he just got back into his car and made his right turn!
You do sound well hard. Bravo Sir. The first was when I was driving home from work. I was turning right on a dual carriageway at a set of lights. The junction had a stop line and then a pedestrian, lights controlled, crossing and then some space after the pedestrian crossing to wait to cross onto another dual carriageway.
I pulled up behind the stop line and there was another car in front beyond the crossing waiting for a gap to turn right. A car pulled in behind me and in my mirror the driver seemed a bit agitated, I didn't know why but subsequent events seemed to suggest he thought I should have pulled up behind the car in front thereby blocking the pedestrian walkway.
Anyway, the lights turned to amber the car in front immediately was able to make the turn and I did not move. I could then see the bloke behind me throwing himself about in his car, he then reversed down the road a bit, pulled out, overtook me on the inside and pulled in front of me past the stop line and across the pedestrian crossing. As you could imagine I was a bit annoyed about this. Still I did nothing and then the lights changed and we both were able to to make the turn, as I suspected and hoped, he made the turn put his foot down and stayed in the outside lane of the dual carriageway, even though the inside lane was clear, I just stayed left and put the hammer down, I rapidly came alongside him and stayed there because I knew 800 metres down the road there was another set of lights and the right hand lane turned into a turn right only lane.
He suddenly realised this but I kept alongside him trapping him into turning right. At the lights he leapt out of his car and banged on my roof, he was a young lad at least 30 years my junior, I am pretty cool normally but got out and explained what would happen if he didn't get back into his car sharpish. (As an explanation, I am not a big bloke, near six foot but ten stone at best. However in my youth I was an amateur boxer and I am not worried about getting into a fight. I have never instigated a fight though, I will only react if threatened. I have been though, in my youth, been arrested twice, handcuffed and locked up for alleged assault, one went to court subsequently but I was found not guilty because I was found to be acting in self defence).
Given, I was giving him my best 'have a go if you are hard enough' look, he just got back into his car and made his right turn!
I am an amateur Kung Fu artist and part time still life painter so would have just got him on the floor and painted his face orange.
MuscleSedan said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I think one thing that is missing with many drivers these days is the ability to simply hold your hand up or bip the hazards to acknowledge you've screwed up.
Definitely this.Fairly recently while I was travelling on a main road a bloke in a newish estate car came straight out in front of me from a turning on the left, without slowing at all. I was in an old Kangoo van and was stood up in the seat on the brakes ! How we missed each other I don't know, it was close. But as soon as he spotted me he flashed the hazards and shot off into the distance and out of sight. That simple quick gesture of acknowledging me and I just thought fair play, let it go. He was on some kind of mission that's for sure.
Coming up a dual carriageway uphill with 2 lorries in lane 1.
I get up behind them in lane 2 to overtake and the rear lorry in lane 1 indicates and just pulls out presumably not wanting to lose speed.
Flashed and hooted as he almost barged out straight into me and after he overtook and pulled back in I saw his cab window come down and expected a wave of acknowledgement or apology.
I got the coffee beans.
ben5575 said:
This is the time that the bevested gym bunny chose to block the entrance of the cul de sac with his Mitsubishi L200, headlights and roid rage. It seems that he (some would say quite understandably) took exception to my poor driving despite being 500 yards away at the time and decided to take it upon himself to make his point violently known to me.
if he was 500yds away what was the fking point of him making an issue of it??irocfan said:
ben5575 said:
This is the time that the bevested gym bunny chose to block the entrance of the cul de sac with his Mitsubishi L200, headlights and roid rage. It seems that he (some would say quite understandably) took exception to my poor driving despite being 500 yards away at the time and decided to take it upon himself to make his point violently known to me.
if he was 500yds away what was the fking point of him making an issue of it??irocfan said:
ben5575 said:
This is the time that the bevested gym bunny chose to block the entrance of the cul de sac with his Mitsubishi L200, headlights and roid rage. It seems that he (some would say quite understandably) took exception to my poor driving despite being 500 yards away at the time and decided to take it upon himself to make his point violently known to me.
if he was 500yds away what was the fking point of him making an issue of it??heads / looking for a reason to fight / bully othersI once had a woman come out to me as I parked up my car - she was mad because I'd turned into the road quickly - yet below the 30 limit.
"My kids play in this road, you could have hit them"
The fact they weren't there, that I didn't hit them or that IT'S A f
kING ROAD seemed to escape her.
No, but I've had someone get out of their car twice and threaten me. Both occasions were when I'd performed a perfectly safe and relaxed overtake and the person being overtaken (a slow van in both cases) took offence. I've owned a variety of cars and driven in a variety of countries, but both occasions were when I was in a BMW in the UK - they always seem to attract hatred and road rage here.
I recently had a woman get out of the car and try my door handle which was locked and then proceeded to hit the window of my car. Was rather unnecessary, she later emailed the company secretary as this happened in an office car park with numerous other companies and witnesses to apologise for a very out of character overreaction.
I just sat in the car laughing at her, absolute psycho
I just sat in the car laughing at her, absolute psycho
Once, the other bloke also got out and and put his hand inside his jacket, knife or no knife, I wasn't moving any more, a bit of a mexican stand off and off we went.
Not so long ago, I saw a car parked up on the pavement at a T junction in front of a shop, which meant all pedestrians had to go into the road and back what really narked me was a woman and her baby had to as well and face cars turning in at the junction. I saw the , well you know, baby boomer type woman , entitled to all and permanent anger etched on the face, I told her it was a stupid place to park as I walked by.
She, then followed me as I walked and parked up , on the pavement and got out and remonstrated. Despite telling her what she had blocked and is currently blocking, she would not listen, she started throwing a hissy fit - I had enough,and I am a bit gobby I wont say what I said , but she was redder than a baboons arse and close to tears. She fking deserved it.
Not so long ago, I saw a car parked up on the pavement at a T junction in front of a shop, which meant all pedestrians had to go into the road and back what really narked me was a woman and her baby had to as well and face cars turning in at the junction. I saw the , well you know, baby boomer type woman , entitled to all and permanent anger etched on the face, I told her it was a stupid place to park as I walked by.
She, then followed me as I walked and parked up , on the pavement and got out and remonstrated. Despite telling her what she had blocked and is currently blocking, she would not listen, she started throwing a hissy fit - I had enough,and I am a bit gobby I wont say what I said , but she was redder than a baboons arse and close to tears. She f
king deserved it.Edited by Harji on Tuesday 19th November 11:52
Never. Pointless to engage with idiots.
I did witness one incident that started out with two drivers refusing to back down and allow the other to pass in a narrow lane. Hilarious - shouting, arm waving, foot stamping empurpled and sweary tantrums until they noticed the growing audience pissing themselves laughing.
I did witness one incident that started out with two drivers refusing to back down and allow the other to pass in a narrow lane. Hilarious - shouting, arm waving, foot stamping empurpled and sweary tantrums until they noticed the growing audience pissing themselves laughing.
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