RE: Aston Martin DBX officially unveiled
Discussion
768c said:
R.Sole said:
I disagree, Landrover products are the best of the bunch looks wise!
Well, yes, but I wouldn't put them in the same league as these super luxury SUVs. They do look better though. The Range Rover is the king of luxury SUVs.R.Sole said:
Easy to spec a FFRR to well over £200k
No it isn’t. There will be virtually no FFRR specced up to anything like £200K (but I know it can be done)
A nicely specced FFRR SE is just over 100K (V6 3.L)
Even a supercharged 5l petrol is hard to get up to anything like 200k
Edited by andyxxx on Thursday 21st November 23:11
andyxxx said:
R.Sole said:
Easy to spec a FFRR to well over £200k
No it isn’t. There will be virtually no FFRR specced up to anything like £200K (but I know it can be done)
A nicely specced FFRR SE is just over 100K (V6 3.L)
Even a supercharged 5l petrol is hard to get up to anything like 200k
Edited by andyxxx on Thursday 21st November 23:11
I just spaced one to £220K.
andyxxx said:
The car has already grown on me and I suspect it will look bigger and better on the road.
I have just been messing with the configurator and it looks great in certain colours
The video I watched on it made me think that it is certainly one of the better ones of the expensive SUV's for sure. I was quite taken by it to be fair, and it is a shame that I can't afford one. I have just been messing with the configurator and it looks great in certain colours
I think this looks pretty good, but agree with those that say it might be a bit overpriced. I'd say though that is true of Astons generally.
As the owner of a year old Cayenne S, on the point that many make about 'why an SUV when you can get an RS6', it has served me very well in the last year for a few specific reasons. It is fast, spacious, and comfortable as an RS6 would be. But very specifically, while I haven't taken it offroad, and probably never would in any meaningful way (it's no RR), my driving (in London and beyond) seems to be littered with speed bumps and terrible road surfaces these days. These can be treated with a certain distain that wouldn't be the case in lower sprung cars. Not the be all and end all perhaps, but for the daily grind or indeed for cross continental, fully loaded travel it is (almost) peerless. And in the summer when I turned up at certain houses and hotels that had various degrees of unmade access, again these were easily dismissed. I also spent a lot of time in my 997,and GT4, and of course the driving experiences were different, but the French in particular have embraced speed bumps in and out of villages in a big way, and I spent more time than I care to mention gritting my teeth as the front spoilers graunched on the bumps.
Horses for courses I know, and I'm lucky to own a few cars with different styles and characteristics, but as the place I spend most time in a driving sense, my big, fast, polluting SUV is both fun and special, and I for one am glad that Aston seem to have made a decent one that will certainly make me look at (maybe a couple of years into its depreciation) when I come to change the Cayenne.
As the owner of a year old Cayenne S, on the point that many make about 'why an SUV when you can get an RS6', it has served me very well in the last year for a few specific reasons. It is fast, spacious, and comfortable as an RS6 would be. But very specifically, while I haven't taken it offroad, and probably never would in any meaningful way (it's no RR), my driving (in London and beyond) seems to be littered with speed bumps and terrible road surfaces these days. These can be treated with a certain distain that wouldn't be the case in lower sprung cars. Not the be all and end all perhaps, but for the daily grind or indeed for cross continental, fully loaded travel it is (almost) peerless. And in the summer when I turned up at certain houses and hotels that had various degrees of unmade access, again these were easily dismissed. I also spent a lot of time in my 997,and GT4, and of course the driving experiences were different, but the French in particular have embraced speed bumps in and out of villages in a big way, and I spent more time than I care to mention gritting my teeth as the front spoilers graunched on the bumps.
Horses for courses I know, and I'm lucky to own a few cars with different styles and characteristics, but as the place I spend most time in a driving sense, my big, fast, polluting SUV is both fun and special, and I for one am glad that Aston seem to have made a decent one that will certainly make me look at (maybe a couple of years into its depreciation) when I come to change the Cayenne.
R.Sole said:
768c said:
R.Sole said:
I disagree, Landrover products are the best of the bunch looks wise!
Well, yes, but I wouldn't put them in the same league as these super luxury SUVs. They do look better though. The Range Rover is the king of luxury SUVs.It's a bit like comparing an S-Class with a Rolls Royce Ghost or Bentley. Yes, you can spec one high but the top end Mercedes meets the entry to a Rolls.
Autonomy said:
No. Because the starting price is lower.
Yes I agree.The list for a FFRR vogue is £83k (without discounts)
As nice as they are inside the interior looks very basic compared to the Bentaygo etc and no amount of speccing changes that.
For several weeks I had the use of a highly specced long wheel base FFRR autobiography and it was little different from the 'basic' Vogue or SE
We can all have fun on configurators ticking every available option to see what it could cost - nobody in their right mind orders them.
andyxxx said:
Autonomy said:
No. Because the starting price is lower.
Yes I agree.The list for a FFRR vogue is £83k (without discounts)
As nice as they are inside the interior looks very basic compared to the Bentaygo etc and no amount of speccing changes that.
For several weeks I had the use of a highly specced long wheel base FFRR autobiography and it was little different from the 'basic' Vogue or SE
We can all have fun on configurators ticking every available option to see what it could cost - nobody in their right mind orders them.
R.Sole said:
andyxxx said:
Autonomy said:
No. Because the starting price is lower.
Yes I agree.The list for a FFRR vogue is £83k (without discounts)
As nice as they are inside the interior looks very basic compared to the Bentaygo etc and no amount of speccing changes that.
For several weeks I had the use of a highly specced long wheel base FFRR autobiography and it was little different from the 'basic' Vogue or SE
We can all have fun on configurators ticking every available option to see what it could cost - nobody in their right mind orders them.
The supercharged FFRR at £177k(+) has a very similar interior to the basic £83k Vogue and the Bentaygo interior is far superior.
I am on my second L405 FFRR SE and though I do not like the look of the Bentley, it is a far superior car, as are the Rolls, Lambo and hopefully the Aston.
andyxxx said:
R.Sole said:
andyxxx said:
Autonomy said:
No. Because the starting price is lower.
Yes I agree.The list for a FFRR vogue is £83k (without discounts)
As nice as they are inside the interior looks very basic compared to the Bentaygo etc and no amount of speccing changes that.
For several weeks I had the use of a highly specced long wheel base FFRR autobiography and it was little different from the 'basic' Vogue or SE
We can all have fun on configurators ticking every available option to see what it could cost - nobody in their right mind orders them.
The supercharged FFRR at £177k(+) has a very similar interior to the basic £83k Vogue and the Bentaygo interior is far superior.
I am on my second L405 FFRR SE and though I do not like the look of the Bentley, it is a far superior car, as are the Rolls, Lambo and hopefully the Aston.
Totally personal choices but I think I'd rather have a FFRR if it was the family utility vehicle (I'd expect better performance in inclement/off road conditions) and if it was for daily driving Is probably go for something else. I don't really see the point in trying to pretend an SUV should be there for performance driving.
Will- you've got an X3M coming, which I love the sound of in some respects (especially for less than £600 a month!). For doing big miles the extra height and 4wd would be nice. However, if I weren't doing big miles, I'd be constantly frustrated that the dynamic performance wasn't the same as something inherently more suitable to deliver it (like an M3, for example). Will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.
Will- you've got an X3M coming, which I love the sound of in some respects (especially for less than £600 a month!). For doing big miles the extra height and 4wd would be nice. However, if I weren't doing big miles, I'd be constantly frustrated that the dynamic performance wasn't the same as something inherently more suitable to deliver it (like an M3, for example). Will be interesting to hear your thoughts on it.
Yes the height off the ground will take some getting used too compared to a low slung performance car that you can throw at a bend with confidence, I've no doubt you'll be able to but it's more whether you'll want to, the steering on the test drive was ultra fast as well very sharp response which again takes some getting used to.
It was surprisingly pointy though and felt very stiff and flat through corners a test drive can only give you so much info I guess I'll know more after it arrives.
It was surprisingly pointy though and felt very stiff and flat through corners a test drive can only give you so much info I guess I'll know more after it arrives.
Another pleasantly surprised person here. I was thinking an Aston SUV would be hideous and the death of the brand but for an SUV, it's actually quite good-looking and possibly Aston's most cohesive current design.
It's hard to beat the FFRR at the ultimate luxury SUV game without looking like a tasteless prick (Cullinan/Bentayga/Urus). Still not the kind of car that I would buy for the money and it's still weighing in at around double what I paid for my house but amongst the above competitors it looks like reasonable value. Bespoke chassis and by the looks of it, it will have a nicer quality interior than the FFRR and drive much better on the road too. RR Cullinan just looks like a very posh London cab, Urus is just too much and the Bentayga is not without appeal, as an ultimate luxury 6/7-seater, especially with the short-lived V8 diesel but does look hideous. I think they could have made the DBX a bit better by sticking the V12 in it or possibly adding some hybridisation to the V8 though.
Weird, because I've always loved Astons but the new Vantage/DB11/DBS are a little wide of the mark for me stylistically but the new Conti GT is gorgeous in my opinion. Conversely, Aston Martin seem to have "nailed" the big, luxury SUV where I would have expected the Bentley SUV to be the one to have.
It's hard to beat the FFRR at the ultimate luxury SUV game without looking like a tasteless prick (Cullinan/Bentayga/Urus). Still not the kind of car that I would buy for the money and it's still weighing in at around double what I paid for my house but amongst the above competitors it looks like reasonable value. Bespoke chassis and by the looks of it, it will have a nicer quality interior than the FFRR and drive much better on the road too. RR Cullinan just looks like a very posh London cab, Urus is just too much and the Bentayga is not without appeal, as an ultimate luxury 6/7-seater, especially with the short-lived V8 diesel but does look hideous. I think they could have made the DBX a bit better by sticking the V12 in it or possibly adding some hybridisation to the V8 though.
Weird, because I've always loved Astons but the new Vantage/DB11/DBS are a little wide of the mark for me stylistically but the new Conti GT is gorgeous in my opinion. Conversely, Aston Martin seem to have "nailed" the big, luxury SUV where I would have expected the Bentley SUV to be the one to have.
Edited by white_goodman on Wednesday 27th November 21:46
A good poke around the DBX exterior and interior by Doug DeMuro here. A pre-production car but, to me, it doesn’t look particularly luxurious.
https://youtu.be/L3wtMg2a2xk
https://youtu.be/L3wtMg2a2xk
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