Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol. 3)
Discussion
I guess the appeal of these channels is to see people 'living the dream' and owning cars most of us can only fantasize about, but there's no denying that to do so requires a very high level of income!
If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
alistair1234 said:
1602Mark said:
Given all the other exotic / expensive stuff he's blown cash on, why has a 911 turbo been so elusive before now? Shirley he could have bought one ages ago if he really did want one since childhood? That said, it's great to see anyone get their dream car, whatever it might be. Mine was my rather more modest E30M3, hence trying to enjoy it while I could. Good to see Jay doing the same with his Ferrari.
Isn’t there doubts about the previous cars being his as well. And this car has the same plate 
jaybarts said:
This is probably one of the best videos I’ve seen in a while, it is in English subtitles though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egWuwNOT8EQ&feat...
Good editing and camera work!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egWuwNOT8EQ&feat...
saxon said:
I guess the appeal of these channels is to see people 'living the dream' and owning cars most of us can only fantasize about, but there's no denying that to do so requires a very high level of income!
If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
This is a brilliant comment. Still waiting to decide what I want If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
saxon said:
I guess the appeal of these channels is to see people 'living the dream' and owning cars most of us can only fantasize about, but there's no denying that to do so requires a very high level of income!
If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
Best post I have seen in a while. Full respect to you and couldn't agree more.If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
eadingleberry said:
It does feel to me that full time TGE is falling off. The cars are a lot better, but he seems quite joyless. It's all very dry. Ha.
Agree - i feel that the authenticity is falling away and it's all just too cynical nowadays. I get the whole 'churn' thing clearly makes him a lot of money but i can't help but feel the videos are just not funny anymore - and any constructive criticism seems to be stamped down by the 'chaos crew' as negativity. Even the recent roadtrip one was boring when it could have been so much more. Having said that, maybe i'm just hugely jealous of his fantastic car fleet 
Jules Sunley said:
saxon said:
I guess the appeal of these channels is to see people 'living the dream' and owning cars most of us can only fantasize about, but there's no denying that to do so requires a very high level of income!
If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
Best post I have seen in a while. Full respect to you and couldn't agree more.If you're of more modest means but a petrolhead I think the best advice I can give is to try to buy your dream car but then resist the urge to upgrade or change it every 2-3 years. I bought a TVR Griffith 4.0 litre secondhand in 1996 aged 27. It was a big stretch at the time but I paid it off over 5 years and resisted the urge to buy a brand new 5.0 LItre Griff which is what in an ideal world I would have done. As a result when I got married and a baby came along in my mid thirties the TVR was all paid up and all I had to find was the petrol and the maintenance bills. As a result there was no significant pressure to sell it because it wasn't costing me £600 a month in repayments.
I bought a daily driver of course eventually (in 2002) and despite some very tough financial times have been able to keep the Griff. During that time I have seen many friends and people on here forced to sell their pride and joy when the financial pressures of having kids or redundancy come along.
Of course the downside of doing this is the fact I never did get a 500 Griff, or a Lotus Esprit or Morgan Plus 8, all of which were on my desired car list. The upside however is that I now have a 24 year history and relationship with my Griff, a load of memories and I haven't had to wave goodbye to driving something really special. As I am now 51 I just hope I can keep enjoying her into retirement.
So my advice to the young guns - buy what you really want and then keep it! Don't keep changing car (unless you really can afford it easily)
Saxon
and you can't go wrong with a TVR as long as you drive it regularly & keep up with the maintenance.
Mr-B said:
Proper lol moment when he started it up near the end to put it in the garage, more smoke than bonfire night. He's made a proper f
king mess of that.
Forgive my ignorance, but what would have caused the smoke? It looked a clean roll with just body damage so I wasn't expecting anything to be wrong with the engine.king mess of that.A question for the YT'ers...
Have you ever consciously tried to improve your presenting style/delivery to camera? What was the process like, just watching your previous videos? Emulating others? Actual courses? Or is it just a case of making enough content that you get comfortable?
I've just put my second video on and I feel its getting better, there's a long way to go, baby steps...open to suggestions to improve.
Have you ever consciously tried to improve your presenting style/delivery to camera? What was the process like, just watching your previous videos? Emulating others? Actual courses? Or is it just a case of making enough content that you get comfortable?
I've just put my second video on and I feel its getting better, there's a long way to go, baby steps...open to suggestions to improve.
ro250 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what would have caused the smoke? It looked a clean roll with just body damage so I wasn't expecting anything to be wrong with the engine.
Oil in the cylinders having got past the piston rings while inverted.Wouldn't be much, as it was only upside down very briefly, but it only takes a small amount to make a good smoke show.
InitialDave said:
ro250 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what would have caused the smoke? It looked a clean roll with just body damage so I wasn't expecting anything to be wrong with the engine.
Oil in the cylinders having got past the piston rings while inverted.Wouldn't be much, as it was only upside down very briefly, but it only takes a small amount to make a good smoke show.
StevenRugg said:
jaybarts said:
This is probably one of the best videos I’ve seen in a while, it is in English subtitles though.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egWuwNOT8EQ&feat...
Absolutely brilliant video! It had it all. Great lead character, nice introduction with the box and car reveal, I then really got interested in his lap times, and then the terrible accident, and the mellow second chapter where he regretted that final lap. Amazing.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=egWuwNOT8EQ&feat...
Also really loved his house!
UTH said:
Indeed. Very well said and interestingly put.
My experience in car ownership has taught me to have a similar attitude.Find a car you like and if its a good example try and keep hold of it. Easier said than done as the grass does sometimes seem greener or more appealing on the other side.
You could of course apply this attitude to wife/partners also .....
UmpaLoompa said:
eadingleberry said:
It does feel to me that full time TGE is falling off. The cars are a lot better, but he seems quite joyless. It's all very dry. Ha.
Agree - i feel that the authenticity is falling away and it's all just too cynical nowadays. I get the whole 'churn' thing clearly makes him a lot of money but i can't help but feel the videos are just not funny anymore - and any constructive criticism seems to be stamped down by the 'chaos crew' as negativity. Even the recent roadtrip one was boring when it could have been so much more. Having said that, maybe i'm just hugely jealous of his fantastic car fleet crosseyedlion said:
A question for the YT'ers...
Have you ever consciously tried to improve your presenting style/delivery to camera? What was the process like, just watching your previous videos? Emulating others? Actual courses? Or is it just a case of making enough content that you get comfortable?
I've just put my second video on and I feel its getting better, there's a long way to go, baby steps...open to suggestions to improve.
I actually had acting lessons as part of my film course, many moons ago. In truth, it's a mixture of experience, and confidence.Have you ever consciously tried to improve your presenting style/delivery to camera? What was the process like, just watching your previous videos? Emulating others? Actual courses? Or is it just a case of making enough content that you get comfortable?
I've just put my second video on and I feel its getting better, there's a long way to go, baby steps...open to suggestions to improve.
Just fake them both until you really have them!
I found that having a vague idea of where I want to go with my dialogue, and for exterior shots breaking it up into manageable chunks helps massively.
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