Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol. 3)
Discussion
BlueIn2Red said:
Archie's selling-SVR video is really quite sad - there's listening to your audience, then there's a desperate need for internet affirmation. Selling your dream car because of a few trolls in the comment section, really? And how many times did he say "I can afford it, really". He needs to stop trying to please everybody, and just make the content he wants to make. If his heart is really in it, he'll find an audience.
I found it quite pathetic too. His desperate need to be liked and popular can't be healthy. He loves the car but he's selling it after 5 minutes because some strangers on the internet said it was a boring choice. The mind boggles.easytiger123 said:
I found it quite pathetic too. His desperate need to be liked and popular can't be healthy. He loves the car but he's selling it after 5 minutes because some strangers on the internet said it was a boring choice. The mind boggles.
I haven't watched any of this Archie stuff being discussed, but bear in mind that all of the big youtubers will carefully consider any car purchase in terms of views and I'd venture it's probably top of the list in deciding what to buy.TheAngryDog said:
I'm afraid that I lost any respect I had for Adam Ivell. His video with Lee Lockwood was unnecessary. On top of the clickbait now it's about time he did something else.
I just watched it based on this - I'm not sure we watched the same video... What made you lose respect for him?95JO said:
TheAngryDog said:
I'm afraid that I lost any respect I had for Adam Ivell. His video with Lee Lockwood was unnecessary. On top of the clickbait now it's about time he did something else.
I just watched it based on this - I'm not sure we watched the same video... What made you lose respect for him?ghosthtx said:
On the topic of dubious YouTubers; have any of you guys come across Samcrac? He buys salvaged motors, fettles them and flips them on. I thought he was actually quite entertaining, right up until he bought an L322 RR V8 at salvage for approx £1k with overheating / head gasket issues.
He actually filmed himself “fixing” it with some sort of liquid pour in head gasket sealer... Now he is giving it away as a prize...
My favourite comment on one of these vids was about how this RR doesn’t run on petrol OR diesel... it runs on borrowed time.
That head gasket video popped up on my feed, couldn't help but shake my head. It would be nice to see samcrac actually try and fix cars with proper issues except for the usual body work stuff he normally does and if its too complicated off down to the garage he pops or gets a fellow YT'er to do it for him.He actually filmed himself “fixing” it with some sort of liquid pour in head gasket sealer... Now he is giving it away as a prize...
My favourite comment on one of these vids was about how this RR doesn’t run on petrol OR diesel... it runs on borrowed time.
Showing your viewers how to fix a head gasket issue with liquid sealant, just no.
I'm no expert in cars but having been a first time BMW owner I hadn't a clue about how some Beemer engines worked and how in winter sometimes condensation and in turn a tiny amount of mayo can form on the underside of the oil cap. Here was me crapping myself I'd bought a right goner of a car. Coolant change, two oil changes and no sign of mayo in either. Still worrying, I took a trip to the local stealership only to get told its normal condensation and my head gasket is fine.I could've just followed Samcracs crappy method and shoved some liquid in there and forgot about it.
Edited by Edgarr on Friday 10th January 13:40
easytiger123 said:
BlueIn2Red said:
Archie's selling-SVR video is really quite sad - there's listening to your audience, then there's a desperate need for internet affirmation. Selling your dream car because of a few trolls in the comment section, really? And how many times did he say "I can afford it, really". He needs to stop trying to please everybody, and just make the content he wants to make. If his heart is really in it, he'll find an audience.
I found it quite pathetic too. His desperate need to be liked and popular can't be healthy. He loves the car but he's selling it after 5 minutes because some strangers on the internet said it was a boring choice. The mind boggles.easytiger123 said:
BlueIn2Red said:
Archie's selling-SVR video is really quite sad - there's listening to your audience, then there's a desperate need for internet affirmation. Selling your dream car because of a few trolls in the comment section, really? And how many times did he say "I can afford it, really". He needs to stop trying to please everybody, and just make the content he wants to make. If his heart is really in it, he'll find an audience.
I found it quite pathetic too. His desperate need to be liked and popular can't be healthy. He loves the car but he's selling it after 5 minutes because some strangers on the internet said it was a boring choice. The mind boggles.WarrenB said:
easytiger123 said:
BlueIn2Red said:
Archie's selling-SVR video is really quite sad - there's listening to your audience, then there's a desperate need for internet affirmation. Selling your dream car because of a few trolls in the comment section, really? And how many times did he say "I can afford it, really". He needs to stop trying to please everybody, and just make the content he wants to make. If his heart is really in it, he'll find an audience.
I found it quite pathetic too. His desperate need to be liked and popular can't be healthy. He loves the car but he's selling it after 5 minutes because some strangers on the internet said it was a boring choice. The mind boggles.Its a bit of a desperate situation. Buying your dream car vs Keeping an engaged audience and keeping the views in, which i imagine keeps the money coming in. I guess this is a drawback of these lifestyle car YT'ers who post up the 'shall i buy, shall i wrap, should i sell' videos. Every other video is a question to the viewers, or relies on some form of viewer reaction/interaction/feedback/commentary. To some degree they rely on the audiences opinions and feedback on their next move. So its not much of a surprise that you feel you need to sell your car because they dont want to see it on your channel.
Gutting really, but without sounding harsh i feel it was inevitable when you consider the actual format of his channel and content.
Ironically, a lifestyle YT'er who does want he wants to his car and shares it with his viewers. without giving a single hoot about considering the comments section and the audiences feedback is that chap named previously with the mint blue Golf R and aftermarket wheels. People will still chuck their 2p in and someone somewhere will hate what you''ve one (his comment section is brutal!)... only in this lads case its still generated him views and subbies so he clearly isnt bothered. He's clearly got thick skin! Although he has posted a similar video about selling the golf but i dont think its for the same reason as Archie.
I understand Archie's position in a way, but he needs to decide what he wants ultimately:
1. To buy cars HE wants and loves, use and enjoy them even if they don't bring in the views;
2. Buy cars that draw in the views - Lambos and the like, wrap them, straight-pipe them, race them, crash them.. all that nonsense that bring in viral views.
What he doesn't need to be doing, is making videos justifying what he's buying and selling, and seemingly grovelling to his viewers..
I appreciate in a way when people do get involved, replying to their audience and engaging with them, but I don't really get this vibe from Archie, yet the way he was speaking weirdly directly to his viewers in his video, talking about how he wants to buy cars that they want to see.... I find it a bit jarring..
1. To buy cars HE wants and loves, use and enjoy them even if they don't bring in the views;
2. Buy cars that draw in the views - Lambos and the like, wrap them, straight-pipe them, race them, crash them.. all that nonsense that bring in viral views.
What he doesn't need to be doing, is making videos justifying what he's buying and selling, and seemingly grovelling to his viewers..
I appreciate in a way when people do get involved, replying to their audience and engaging with them, but I don't really get this vibe from Archie, yet the way he was speaking weirdly directly to his viewers in his video, talking about how he wants to buy cars that they want to see.... I find it a bit jarring..
Given the amount of free content given to Saxton 4x4 when he purchased the SVR, I assumed AHR got the car on a very good/free leasing deal to promote the dealership. In terms of getting rid of the SVR, will it not miraculously be bought back into stock by Saxton and Archie getting out of it with very little loss.
What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
Presuming Ed said:
Given the amount of free content given to Saxton 4x4 when he purchased the SVR, I assumed AHR got the car on a very good/free leasing deal to promote the dealership. In terms of getting rid of the SVR, will it not miraculously be bought back into stock by Saxton and Archie getting out of it with very little loss.
What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
It's what Tony said in a precious video when discussing cost. What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
He said Archie if they (being the viewer) go out and buy a RR they will face different costs because of the way you got into and will be able to get out of the car....... Says it all Saxton will have it back (they seem to have every RR in the UK) and will thank Archie for the promo as he's provided.
CooperS said:
Presuming Ed said:
Given the amount of free content given to Saxton 4x4 when he purchased the SVR, I assumed AHR got the car on a very good/free leasing deal to promote the dealership. In terms of getting rid of the SVR, will it not miraculously be bought back into stock by Saxton and Archie getting out of it with very little loss.
What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
It's what Tony said in a precious video when discussing cost. What I do find irritating with Archies channel is the promise of a load of track content with the GT3 and we've had nothing.
He said Archie if they (being the viewer) go out and buy a RR they will face different costs because of the way you got into and will be able to get out of the car....... Says it all Saxton will have it back (they seem to have every RR in the UK) and will thank Archie for the promo as he's provided.
The problem with basing your channel on buying the next best new car is that's what the audience expects, to go and buy the same car again, albeit facelifted, isn't what is expected so the audience will turn on you.
Personnally if he loved it so much and can afford it just keep it but don't make any content with it and focus on something else.
Shmee does this very well. A few of his cars are essentially forgotten about in terms of his videos but then he does his garage update you remember he still has the LT or the GT8 because they are the cars he wanted.
I suspect the Senna and GT will get this to point after 2 years or so of ownership and he'll effectively "retire" them from the channel albeit they'll appear sporadically when he does updates or the odd event. By that point he'll have likely added something new which will get all the attention instead, in the meantime his collection grows and he keeps the ones he wants.
Craig_89 said:
The problem with basing your channel on buying the next best new car is that's what the audience expects, to go and buy the same car again, albeit facelifted, isn't what is expected so the audience will turn on you.
This is, in a way, what I think TGE figured out in good timing.For a while he seemed to chasing the next best release and putting his name down for a bunch of cars at a time, but he seems to have built an audience partially from his general messing around and appears to have toned down on the mad car buying / ordering / speculating.
Plus with Tom, I don't think he necessarily lives off his YouTube revenue so can probably relax a bit and not lose much sleep over viewer figures.
Quite funny to see the opinion on Archie from someone completely removed from the Car Youtube scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIMNEvxPmxA
Puts it in to perspective how out of touch they are and how terrible his content is most of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIMNEvxPmxA
Puts it in to perspective how out of touch they are and how terrible his content is most of the time.
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