RE: Polestar 1 | Driven

RE: Polestar 1 | Driven

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DeltonaS

3,707 posts

139 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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wab172uk said:
In some ways it looks very `Ford Mustang`.

At £140,000 is not exactly Mustang prices
Speaking of Ford Mustang, wouldn't this Polestar be great if it has the 580hp cross-plane crankshaft engine of the Shelby GT350 Mustang.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52X...

Another 500+ kg's less weight in the process is welcome as well.

Edited by DeltonaS on Monday 25th November 21:06

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

139 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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SydneySE said:
Aletsch said:
spookly said:
I like the looks. But £140,000. Not a chance. I was expecting it to be around Tesla Model S prices. Can't see those flying off the shelves.
Agree! And for £140K I would expect the combustion engine to be V6/V8 not a 2L 4 pot.
it's Bentley money, I'd expect a V8 and an awsome interior.... this is where EVs/Hybrids are nowhere near tp price parity with regular cars, and this just shows how yawning a gap there still is...
Depends on the market, the Polestar is € 159.500 in the Netherlands, the Bentely Continental V8 is € 235.000 excl.options (of which the Bentley has many and the Polestar none).

In big Bentley markets like China the price difference is even greater, in favor of the Volvo.

ducnick

1,795 posts

244 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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DeltonaS said:
wab172uk said:
In some ways it looks very `Ford Mustang`.

At £140,000 is not exactly Mustang prices
Speaking of Ford Mustang, wouldn't this Polestar be great if it has the 580h pcross-plane crankshaft engine of the Shelby GT350 Mustang.
https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52X...

Another 500+ kg's less weight in the process is welcome as well.
a Chevy crate engine would be more fitting for a Volvo..

https://www.volvopenta.us/marineleisure/en-us/prod...

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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A distinctive GT/coupe?
Rare?
V8?

Lexus LC500
Yes please.

FaNtheMaN26

95 posts

60 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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In a world of hyper hatches doing 0-60 starting with 3, 4.2 seems a bit 'slow' considering power and torque (yes ok it's a bit of a fatty but still)

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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connoisseur21 said:
This looks superb, and with only 1500 being produced I can’t see it troubling any of the haters with an opportunity to claim they would’ve bought one, but the car is just too this or too that. The 1500 will am sure be snapped up v rapidly, if they haven’t been already. Nice one Polestar, roll on the P2
Polestar 2 available on the configurator on Polestar website.



which must be based on the new the s/v/40/50 depending on what they call it

https://www.polestar.com/uk/cars/polestar-2

Sorry to Hijack the thread with a different car

Edited by talksthetorque on Tuesday 26th November 07:25

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Everything that merc styling isn’t. Integrated, elegant, smart and still slightly aggressive.
The conclusion seems to be much more positive than the main article but Volvo have come a long way in a short time so.....

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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A Volvo hybrid for over £130k? Hmmmm.....

Not 'bespoke' enough for my money, I'm afraid. Lots of talk about "blistering pace", but as already pointed out, int his day and age 4.2s is not what I've come to expect when I see the word "blistering".

I like it's looks, but I still can't get away from the fact that it just looks like a smart, £50k Volvo coupé.

Vocht

1,631 posts

165 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Absolutely gorgeous car and I get why it costs so much. It's an engineering exercise and from the videos I've seen of it so far, it's a fantastic one at that!

I just hope they slap a D5 powertrain in that shape and sell it for a normal price so I can get one!

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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A cracking vehicle, IMO, but it would be just as cracking with a conventional drive train and less fancy Polestar bite at 1/3 of the price

It looks amazing cloud9

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Monday 25th November 2019
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Over 2 tonnes
0-60 in just over 4 seconds.....
I’m more than happy with that.
That is rapid regardless of weight actually... just because more cars are capable of the same doesn’t make it feel any slower hehe

In a world where its impossible for a car (or the driver at least) to do 0-60 in less than a second. At some point the industry will meet a wall where a normal human can’t be accelerated in a car any quicker so adjectives will become a moot point.

Anything under 5 seconds is ‘blistering’ IMO

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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What can possibly go wrong:

Turbocharged and supercharged engine, paired to gearbox and 2 electric motors and related batteries all working in perfect harmony of modern computing power and a thousand sensors......

Mechanically lots
Electrically lots
Software lots

Great looking thing though!!

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

188 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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In my opinion, that is an absolutely wonderful-looking car. Interesting technical package too. Impressive.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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I see it as a bit of a missed opportunity. Great looking car that will never be seen outside of the internet and saddled with too much tech and therefore too much price.

It looks like a V90 coupe - which is the car they should have built. But for £50k not £130k.

High spec V90s can be had for less than £30k which seem to have pretty much the same interior as this...

A great shame.

Iamnotkloot

1,430 posts

148 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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The weight! The weight......

Fine looking car though

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

98 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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I love the looks, but could not push myself to choose this over a Taycan at this price.

TEKNOPUG

18,973 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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It has the weight, performance and price of a massive SUV, without being a massive SUV. I think I'd rather have a Porsche Cayenne Turbo.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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Thsi car demonstrates precisely why hybrids are really, the worst of all worlds!

Masively complex, massively heavy, requiring a myriad of different systems to all work in harmony together, and yet the end result is dissapointing (poor performance, poor Electric range, and sounds poor too (thanks to the little 4 cyl engine))

EVs have moved the bar so far, that really hybrids are just a stop gap. All they achieve today is the ability to refuel if you need too, rather than recharge, but if you are doing large daily mileages where refulling becomes useful (ie you can't charge enough overnight) then you'd be better off buying a more-efficient-on-a-cruise deisel engined car.......


If i wanted a performance car, for £130k i'd want to be able to at least keep up with an M3, and i'd want it to sound at least as good as an M3

If i wanted a EV, for £130k i'd want to be able to drive more than 75 miles on 'lecy


Not for nothing has Volvo badged this as a "polestar" rather than as a mainstream Volvo imo, as they know this is a short lived niche.........

u9ge

56 posts

60 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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British Beef said:
What can possibly go wrong:

Turbocharged and supercharged engine, paired to gearbox and 2 electric motors and related batteries all working in perfect harmony of modern computing power and a thousand sensors......

Mechanically lots
Electrically lots
Software lots

Great looking thing though!!
Fully agree, a moment in time before it all gets replaced with about 20 moving parts. I can't wait to see these on the Brave Pill in three years!

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Tuesday 26th November 2019
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Hugely complicated and very, VERY heavy at 2350...

Not sure. The superturbocharged 4 pot engine is interesting, but I am not sure it will feel right in a car like this...

The interior lacks anything truly unique.

Oh and did we mention the price?