RE: Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 1 | Spotted
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Limpet said:
I miss the days when the only difference between a car you'd watch one of your heroes thrash round a circuit or through a forest stage, and one you could actually go to a dealership and buy yourself, was some carpet, a few toys, and a few component changes.
...although you forgot to mention the Cibie Super Oscars.
Even now after all this time, a car which is so desirable. I actually like the slightly understated Delta HF Turbo.
An example of a Manufacturer producing a stunning road car to go along with their competition version. The opposite of this is Citroen.....who have not cashed in on their long WRC success with anything half decent.
An example of a Manufacturer producing a stunning road car to go along with their competition version. The opposite of this is Citroen.....who have not cashed in on their long WRC success with anything half decent.
jet_noise said:
Good story, well told 
Totally agree: for once, an actual story from a past experience that I 100% believe (I'm actually running the whole scenario in my head and thinking - 'yep, filling up with the engine running and locking the car with the spare key to go pay...... Ooooh, how many times have I been there back in the day!'). 
I had a 16v, the year before and pretty much the same thing.
Absolutely insane car, coming from bikes I was shocked how slow it was in a straight line, and it didn't rev much either...
But.. Show it a corner and it laughed at you, every time.. Lalala.. I could do that standing on my head.. It literally took any corner at any speed you cared to try. The chassis just gave you godlike speed, especially in a wet gravely roundabout, it constantly egged you on to insane corner speed. It sounds silly but you needed the roads closing, it was a pure tarmac rally event on every drive.
Sadly, it spun it's main bearings, 4k rebuild (20 years ago) and then I bumped it into a dithering bint in traffic... Another couple of K on paintwork and a furious wife... I had to sell it before it bankrupted me, but OMFG what a car.
Absolutely insane car, coming from bikes I was shocked how slow it was in a straight line, and it didn't rev much either...
But.. Show it a corner and it laughed at you, every time.. Lalala.. I could do that standing on my head.. It literally took any corner at any speed you cared to try. The chassis just gave you godlike speed, especially in a wet gravely roundabout, it constantly egged you on to insane corner speed. It sounds silly but you needed the roads closing, it was a pure tarmac rally event on every drive.
Sadly, it spun it's main bearings, 4k rebuild (20 years ago) and then I bumped it into a dithering bint in traffic... Another couple of K on paintwork and a furious wife... I had to sell it before it bankrupted me, but OMFG what a car.
I swear that's my old car or if not its twin. Ah I loved that thing its was so much fun to drive and I really regret selling it especially seeing how much there worth now!
Fantastic car and the Lancia Owners Club ran great trackdays I did my first one with them at Goodwood.
I hope the person that buys this has as much fun as I did in mine.
Is that the car in Sega Rally mate? Yes. Wow I didn't realise it was a real car. Bloke in petrol station said to me the day I picked it up.
Fantastic car and the Lancia Owners Club ran great trackdays I did my first one with them at Goodwood.
I hope the person that buys this has as much fun as I did in mine.
Is that the car in Sega Rally mate? Yes. Wow I didn't realise it was a real car. Bloke in petrol station said to me the day I picked it up.
I loved my 16v. One thing I never really liked with Integrales was the interior trim. This one is a good example of what I mean. Very S&M fetishist design. I used to think mine was quick: magazines recorded 0 - 60mph in 5.7 seconds, which is good going 30 years later (don’t know where the 6.1 seconds in the article comes from).
My only regret was not reading about the overboost function until I had decided to sell it. Apparently it liberates about another 10% torque. I only got to try it out once, before the car was sold. Idiot.
My only regret was not reading about the overboost function until I had decided to sell it. Apparently it liberates about another 10% torque. I only got to try it out once, before the car was sold. Idiot.
Evolved said:
Where is this info from and based on what? Did a quick search and can’t find anything to back up that statement.
There are tons of engines I’d think of before this one in relation to motorsport wins. Be interested to see some links etc.
Well the Fiat / Lancia twin-cam engine has quite a pedigree over the years with wins in both rallying and circuit racing with 20 year gap between its first world championship with and its last. Introduced in road trim in 1966 and finally withdrawn in 1998. It has been used in variety of capacities from 1.4 turbo to 2.1 supercharged. Used in Fiat, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Morgan, FSO and LaForza road cars as well.There are tons of engines I’d think of before this one in relation to motorsport wins. Be interested to see some links etc.
Fiat
1972 World Rally Champion Fiat 124 Abarth
1977-80 World Rally Champion Fiat 131
Lancia
1979-81 World Endurance Champions - Montecarlo Turbo
1982 - several race wins in Group 6 racing before Group C introduced.
1983 World Rally Champion with 037
1987-92 World Rally Champion six years running with the Delta HF4WD, Integrale 8v, Integrale 16v
Alfa Romeo
1994 155 BTCC car used head from a 155Q4, The 155 Q4 used a Integrale engine
Edited by andrewcliffe on Wednesday 27th November 12:00
andrewcliffe said:
Evolved said:
Where is this info from and based on what? Did a quick search and can’t find anything to back up that statement.
There are tons of engines I’d think of before this one in relation to motorsport wins. Be interested to see some links etc.
Well the Fiat / Lancia twin-cam engine has quite a pedigree over the years with wins in both rallying and circuit racing with 20 year gap between its first world championship with and its last. Introduced in road trim in 1966 and finally withdrawn in 1998. It has been used in variety of capacities from 1.4 turbo to 2.1 supercharged. Used in Fiat, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Morgan, FSO and LaForza road cars as well.There are tons of engines I’d think of before this one in relation to motorsport wins. Be interested to see some links etc.
Fiat
1972 World Rally Champion Fiat 124 Abarth
1977-80 World Rally Champion Fiat 131
Lancia
1979-81 World Endurance Champions - Montecarlo Turbo
1982 - several race wins in Group 6 racing before Group C introduced.
1983 World Rally Champion with 037
1987-92 World Rally Champion six years running with the Delta HF4WD, Integrale 8v, Integrale 16v
viggyp said:
Forgot about the WEC Montecarlo Turbo. If I remember correctly, they had a 1.4 16v lump producing about 360bhp...or that may have been something else? Can't remember now.
Several capacities used depeneding on what class they wanted to be in...1425.9cc to give 1996cc on the equivalency formula used a the time (under 2000cc)
1429.4 to give 2001cc (over 2000cc)
1773 to give 2482cc
370hp in 1979 season, rising to 490hp in the most potent version
andrewcliffe said:
viggyp said:
Forgot about the WEC Montecarlo Turbo. If I remember correctly, they had a 1.4 16v lump producing about 360bhp...or that may have been something else? Can't remember now.
Several capacities used depeneding on what class they wanted to be in...1425.9cc to give 1996cc on the equivalency formula used a the time (under 2000cc)
1429.4 to give 2001cc (over 2000cc)
1773 to give 2482cc
370hp in 1979 season, rising to 490hp in the most potent version
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