Best Hot Hatch of the 21st Century – nominations

Best Hot Hatch of the 21st Century – nominations

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nickfrog

10,588 posts

165 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Lupo GTI
130i
Megane Mk3 Trophy or Cup S (same car)

And7R

60 posts

4 months

Wednesday 27th November
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zedx19 said:
Except fun, test drove one, wanted to love it, wanted to buy it, but found it utterly dull and was thoroughly disappointed. Kept my mk2 Focus ST instead which gets my vote, there's more competent hot hatches, better made hot hatches but for sheer fun I've found it very difficult to beat.
Not sure where all you driving gods get this impression from or maybe thats the biggest critiscism you have?

Maybe read the Evo 2019 Golf R review where they state when talking about the EA888 engine that "its only accentuated by the wonderful calibration with the chassis and handling balance only the Golf exhibits".

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r

I hear the dull/boring comments a lot on here but I think they just havent been driven hard enough.

Mine's a manual and I test drove the DSG and didnt like it but only had about 15 mins to get used to it.

I tried the squeaky clutch Halfords abomination Honda Civic, the Focus RS and ST along with GTIs but once I drove the R I knew it was for me.

My vote is unsuprisingly for a Golf R mk7!

Edited by And7R on Wednesday 27th November 15:21

cerb4.5lee

12,972 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Clio 182 Trophy.

SweptVolume

440 posts

41 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Alfa Romeo 147 GTA, because Busso evil


zedx19

2,049 posts

88 months

Wednesday 27th November
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And7R said:
Not sure where all you driving gods get this impression from or maybe thats the biggest critiscism you have?

Maybe read the Evo 2019 Golf R review where they state when talking about the EA888 engine that "its only accentuated by the wonderful calibration with the chassis and handling balance only the Golf exhibits".

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r

I hear the dull/boring comments a lot on here but I think they just havent been driven hard enough.

Mine's a manual and I test drove the DSG and didnt like it but only had about 15 mins to get used to it.

My vote is unsuprisingly for a Golf R mk7!
I'm not a driving god and just because a reviewer says they loved it, doesn't mean everyone will love it. I drove a manual, the sales rep was keen on me fully utilising it, so I did but just found it dull, devoid of any character. At one point I pulled into a layby, asked if it was in Race mode, the sales rep checked and it was. I launched it out the layby and it just went down the road with no bother, no squirming, no drama, no noise and no sense that I was needed in the driving process. I wanted to love it, everyone harps on about how amazing they are, I found it boring, other people seemingly love them, everyones entitled to their views.

joema

2,363 posts

127 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Mk4 GOLF GTI (2.0 8v version). 115hp of awesome

Weekendrebuild

598 posts

11 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Love the look of those busso engines in the bay sound good to. Anyway Going to nominate my bmw compact m3 (manual)

luke2397

83 posts

32 months

Wednesday 27th November
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MK 2 Focus RS
BMW M135/40i
Clio V6

Meridius

1,263 posts

100 months

Wednesday 27th November
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For what a hot hatch is supposed to be, I would say Mk5 Golf GTI Edition 30.

And7R

60 posts

4 months

Wednesday 27th November
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zedx19 said:
I'm not a driving god and just because a reviewer says they loved it, doesn't mean everyone will love it. I drove a manual, the sales rep was keen on me fully utilising it, so I did but just found it dull, devoid of any character. At one point I pulled into a layby, asked if it was in Race mode, the sales rep checked and it was. I launched it out the layby and it just went down the road with no bother, no squirming, no drama, no noise and no sense that I was needed in the driving process. I wanted to love it, everyone harps on about how amazing they are, I found it boring, other people seemingly love them, everyones entitled to their views.
Yes I get that but you need to throw it around corners (at excessive speeds lol).

Ok you might need a "private road" ahem!!

Launching on a straight road is not exciting in anything and ive been in a ludicrous speed Tesla!

After 4 or 5 goes it gets dull soon.

Fair enough everyone likes different things.

I thought a friends Elise was too small, very harsh ride, was poorly built and leaked when raining so wouldnt go near one with my own money.

My friend absolutely loves it which is fair enough.

toon10

4,447 posts

105 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I've just sold my BMW M135i LCi. I think it's a good shout due to how different it is from other hatches, the sheer pace of it and the way it delivers it's thrills. It really didn't follow the formula. It's flawed like most hot hatches but it has a unique character and is fun to drive. Not the most practical of cars but as a hot hatch, it ticks most of the important boxes. The quirky (or ugly depending on your point of view) looks may mark it down but then the Megane is hailed as a great hot hatch and all generations of that are horrendous to look at.

kurokawa

176 posts

56 months

Wednesday 27th November
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MK V Golf GTI
Very reasonable price when launch, great styling and it wasn’t obeseed with number but the “fun” driving experience
R56 JCW, more refine than R53 without losing the fun go kart experience
M135i, it might never win a beauty contest, but putting l6 with RWD, nothing could go wrong

RVVUNM

1,774 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Surprised to see nobody voting for the Audi RS3.

RSteve

146 posts

98 months

Wednesday 27th November
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EP3 Type R

Salamura

399 posts

29 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Some of the hatches I'd nominate have already been nominated, so here are a few other choices:

Citroen Saxo VTS
Renaultsport Clio 200 cup
Suzuki Swift sport Mk1

toon10

4,447 posts

105 months

Wednesday 27th November
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RVVUNM said:
Surprised to see nobody voting for the Audi RS3.
I've not driven one but don't they have a reputation for bad understeer like most Audi's? Maybe too capable too? Fast but boring and not fun. Understeer won't win any love with hot hatch fans.

Tallow

1,268 posts

109 months

Wednesday 27th November
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SweptVolume said:
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA, because Busso evil

Another vote here!

DoubleTime

1,388 posts

90 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Clio 172 Cup


Torquey

1,693 posts

176 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I'm going to say Clio V6.

Obviously 2 litre Clio's were good cars but the sheer audacity and insanity to create this thing deserves a lot of respect. More so than anything else I can think of.

Edited by Torquey on Wednesday 27th November 16:11

mickthemechanic

263 posts

54 months

Wednesday 27th November
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EP3 Type R
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