Best Hot Hatch of the 21st Century – nominations
Discussion
zedx19 said:
Except fun, test drove one, wanted to love it, wanted to buy it, but found it utterly dull and was thoroughly disappointed. Kept my mk2 Focus ST instead which gets my vote, there's more competent hot hatches, better made hot hatches but for sheer fun I've found it very difficult to beat.
Not sure where all you driving gods get this impression from or maybe thats the biggest critiscism you have?Maybe read the Evo 2019 Golf R review where they state when talking about the EA888 engine that "its only accentuated by the wonderful calibration with the chassis and handling balance only the Golf exhibits".
https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r
I hear the dull/boring comments a lot on here but I think they just havent been driven hard enough.
Mine's a manual and I test drove the DSG and didnt like it but only had about 15 mins to get used to it.
I tried the squeaky clutch Halfords abomination Honda Civic, the Focus RS and ST along with GTIs but once I drove the R I knew it was for me.
My vote is unsuprisingly for a Golf R mk7!
Edited by And7R on Wednesday 27th November 15:21
And7R said:
Not sure where all you driving gods get this impression from or maybe thats the biggest critiscism you have?
Maybe read the Evo 2019 Golf R review where they state when talking about the EA888 engine that "its only accentuated by the wonderful calibration with the chassis and handling balance only the Golf exhibits".
https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r
I hear the dull/boring comments a lot on here but I think they just havent been driven hard enough.
Mine's a manual and I test drove the DSG and didnt like it but only had about 15 mins to get used to it.
My vote is unsuprisingly for a Golf R mk7!
I'm not a driving god and just because a reviewer says they loved it, doesn't mean everyone will love it. I drove a manual, the sales rep was keen on me fully utilising it, so I did but just found it dull, devoid of any character. At one point I pulled into a layby, asked if it was in Race mode, the sales rep checked and it was. I launched it out the layby and it just went down the road with no bother, no squirming, no drama, no noise and no sense that I was needed in the driving process. I wanted to love it, everyone harps on about how amazing they are, I found it boring, other people seemingly love them, everyones entitled to their views. Maybe read the Evo 2019 Golf R review where they state when talking about the EA888 engine that "its only accentuated by the wonderful calibration with the chassis and handling balance only the Golf exhibits".
https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r
I hear the dull/boring comments a lot on here but I think they just havent been driven hard enough.
Mine's a manual and I test drove the DSG and didnt like it but only had about 15 mins to get used to it.
My vote is unsuprisingly for a Golf R mk7!
zedx19 said:
I'm not a driving god and just because a reviewer says they loved it, doesn't mean everyone will love it. I drove a manual, the sales rep was keen on me fully utilising it, so I did but just found it dull, devoid of any character. At one point I pulled into a layby, asked if it was in Race mode, the sales rep checked and it was. I launched it out the layby and it just went down the road with no bother, no squirming, no drama, no noise and no sense that I was needed in the driving process. I wanted to love it, everyone harps on about how amazing they are, I found it boring, other people seemingly love them, everyones entitled to their views.
Yes I get that but you need to throw it around corners (at excessive speeds lol).Ok you might need a "private road" ahem!!
Launching on a straight road is not exciting in anything and ive been in a ludicrous speed Tesla!
After 4 or 5 goes it gets dull soon.
Fair enough everyone likes different things.
I thought a friends Elise was too small, very harsh ride, was poorly built and leaked when raining so wouldnt go near one with my own money.
My friend absolutely loves it which is fair enough.
I've just sold my BMW M135i LCi. I think it's a good shout due to how different it is from other hatches, the sheer pace of it and the way it delivers it's thrills. It really didn't follow the formula. It's flawed like most hot hatches but it has a unique character and is fun to drive. Not the most practical of cars but as a hot hatch, it ticks most of the important boxes. The quirky (or ugly depending on your point of view) looks may mark it down but then the Megane is hailed as a great hot hatch and all generations of that are horrendous to look at.
MK V Golf GTI
Very reasonable price when launch, great styling and it wasn’t obeseed with number but the “fun” driving experience
R56 JCW, more refine than R53 without losing the fun go kart experience
M135i, it might never win a beauty contest, but putting l6 with RWD, nothing could go wrong
Very reasonable price when launch, great styling and it wasn’t obeseed with number but the “fun” driving experience
R56 JCW, more refine than R53 without losing the fun go kart experience
M135i, it might never win a beauty contest, but putting l6 with RWD, nothing could go wrong
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