I now realise why everybody loves Range Rovers
Discussion
irocfan said:
Chestrockwell said:
I see your type all the time moaning about the self scan machines in supermarkets,
TBF I'm with them on this 
Point blank refuse to use them. It came to a head about a year ago. Wanted to buy about 5 items. Between complaining about unexpected item in the bagging area. Waiting 5 mins for the lady with the authorisation code to finish her conversation about some s
t on eastenders with another customer, then finally having to wait for her to return again for alcohol and again for paracetamol. I lost the fking plot. Much to my wife's enjoyment giggling at me acting line an in petulant 5 year old. I finally picked up the whole load of shopping walk to customer services and told them rudely what I thought of there self checkout system. (Yes I went back 5 mins later when I had calmed down and apologised most profusely to the poor customer service girl who was on the wrong end of a few profanities (I am not proud of this moment it was most undignified and my wife loves to bring it up at family gatherings to embarrass me. It was just the final straw that day).Now most of it was the dozy cow with the authorisation card but that was it. Never again. To this day I haven’t used one.
In fact when with the wife I often walk out and let her use the hateful machine to help reduce my stress level. It’s stupid and childish I know but everybody has that one thing.
Oh and back on topic. I would love a nice V8 RR, alas I couldn’t afford to buy one new and in warranty so I will never own one. There reliability and expensive parts along with my risk aversion makes it too much of a gamble.
MB140 said:
irocfan said:
Chestrockwell said:
I see your type all the time moaning about the self scan machines in supermarkets,
TBF I'm with them on this Point blank refuse to use them. It came to a head about a year ago. Wanted to buy about 5 items. Between complaining about unexpected item in the bagging area. Waiting 5 mins for the lady with the authorisation code to finish her conversation about some s
t on eastenders with another customer, then finally having to wait for her to return again for alcohol and again for paracetamol. I lost the fking plot. Much to my wife's enjoyment giggling at me acting line an in petulant 5 year old. I finally picked up the whole load of shopping walk to customer services and told them rudely what I thought of there self checkout system. (Yes I went back 5 mins later when I had calmed down and apologised most profusely to the poor customer service girl who was on the wrong end of a few profanities (I am not proud of this moment it was most undignified and my wife loves to bring it up at family gatherings to embarrass me. It was just the final straw that day).Now most of it was the dozy cow with the authorisation card but that was it. Never again. To this day I haven’t used one.
In fact when with the wife I often walk out and let her use the hateful machine to help reduce my stress level. It’s stupid and childish I know but everybody has that one thing.
Oh and back on topic. I would love a nice V8 RR, alas I couldn’t afford to buy one new and in warranty so I will never own one. There reliability and expensive parts along with my risk aversion makes it too much of a gamble.
The fewer base level employment opportunities in an area the crappier that area becomes. We should want the businesses in our local areas to employ as many local people as possible and be prepared to pay a minuscule amount more for our goods because of the huge local benefit that brings. These national stores already suck vast wealth from a locality because the money that passes from the residents over the counter goes immediately to a head office elsewhere, as opposed to local stores where that revenue tends to remain in the area allowing the shop owner to buy Range Rovers, build house extensions etc. The only money they put back into the local economy is via the wages paid to the low level local workers, remove them and these stores are just huge economic black holes sucking the wealth from the immediate area.
Inefficient labour benefits all of us. The tiny direct cost is dwarfed by the social and welfare cost of not having enough local employment opportunity. My personal view is that we, as individuals, shouldn’t be so willing to trade a minuscule gain in convenience when it permits these stores to put even less money back into our local community. As such, even if just buying a few items I will queue to be served by a fellow local human.
hyphen said:
I took this pic the other day, it perfectly sums up the urban Range Rover driver. Driveway too small to have the car, parks at angle and still wheels is off it. He literally has to squeeze past to get into his house 
It's not the only example. Loads of them around.
That's what most urban range rover owners are, car is bigger than the house, but whilst he is driving it, he thinks he is 'the man'. It's all about some image they, and the people they associate with, covet.
(pic cropped for his privacy.)
London home in not having a drive quite big enough for modern car shocker......It's not the only example. Loads of them around.
That's what most urban range rover owners are, car is bigger than the house, but whilst he is driving it, he thinks he is 'the man'. It's all about some image they, and the people they associate with, covet.
(pic cropped for his privacy.)
Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 18th December 13:24
Anyone else find it strange that you're going around taking photos and then posting them on the internet to try and ridicule a stranger for simply squeezing their car on to their drive?
PH certainly shines a light on the odd.
DonkeyApple said:
MB140 said:
irocfan said:
Chestrockwell said:
I see your type all the time moaning about the self scan machines in supermarkets,
TBF I'm with them on this Point blank refuse to use them. It came to a head about a year ago. Wanted to buy about 5 items. Between complaining about unexpected item in the bagging area. Waiting 5 mins for the lady with the authorisation code to finish her conversation about some s
t on eastenders with another customer, then finally having to wait for her to return again for alcohol and again for paracetamol. I lost the fking plot. Much to my wife's enjoyment giggling at me acting line an in petulant 5 year old. I finally picked up the whole load of shopping walk to customer services and told them rudely what I thought of there self checkout system. (Yes I went back 5 mins later when I had calmed down and apologised most profusely to the poor customer service girl who was on the wrong end of a few profanities (I am not proud of this moment it was most undignified and my wife loves to bring it up at family gatherings to embarrass me. It was just the final straw that day).Now most of it was the dozy cow with the authorisation card but that was it. Never again. To this day I haven’t used one.
In fact when with the wife I often walk out and let her use the hateful machine to help reduce my stress level. It’s stupid and childish I know but everybody has that one thing.
Oh and back on topic. I would love a nice V8 RR, alas I couldn’t afford to buy one new and in warranty so I will never own one. There reliability and expensive parts along with my risk aversion makes it too much of a gamble.
The fewer base level employment opportunities in an area the crappier that area becomes. We should want the businesses in our local areas to employ as many local people as possible and be prepared to pay a minuscule amount more for our goods because of the huge local benefit that brings. These national stores already suck vast wealth from a locality because the money that passes from the residents over the counter goes immediately to a head office elsewhere, as opposed to local stores where that revenue tends to remain in the area allowing the shop owner to buy Range Rovers, build house extensions etc. The only money they put back into the local economy is via the wages paid to the low level local workers, remove them and these stores are just huge economic black holes sucking the wealth from the immediate area.
Inefficient labour benefits all of us. The tiny direct cost is dwarfed by the social and welfare cost of not having enough local employment opportunity. My personal view is that we, as individuals, shouldn’t be so willing to trade a minuscule gain in convenience when it permits these stores to put even less money back into our local community. As such, even if just buying a few items I will queue to be served by a fellow local human.
DonkeyApple said:
It’s the socio economic aspect that means I decline to use the machines. Supermarkets and the like already remove a lot of employment opportunity from a local area through being much more efficient in their labour use over local stores. I’m not inclined to then endorse a system within those stores that assists in removing even more local labour opportunities.
The fewer base level employment opportunities in an area the crappier that area becomes. We should want the businesses in our local areas to employ as many local people as possible and be prepared to pay a minuscule amount more for our goods because of the huge local benefit that brings. These national stores already suck vast wealth from a locality because the money that passes from the residents over the counter goes immediately to a head office elsewhere, as opposed to local stores where that revenue tends to remain in the area allowing the shop owner to buy Range Rovers, build house extensions etc. The only money they put back into the local economy is via the wages paid to the low level local workers, remove them and these stores are just huge economic black holes sucking the wealth from the immediate area.
Inefficient labour benefits all of us. The tiny direct cost is dwarfed by the social and welfare cost of not having enough local employment opportunity. My personal view is that we, as individuals, shouldn’t be so willing to trade a minuscule gain in convenience when it permits these stores to put even less money back into our local community. As such, even if just buying a few items I will queue to be served by a fellow local human.
O/T but interesting point. The fewer base level employment opportunities in an area the crappier that area becomes. We should want the businesses in our local areas to employ as many local people as possible and be prepared to pay a minuscule amount more for our goods because of the huge local benefit that brings. These national stores already suck vast wealth from a locality because the money that passes from the residents over the counter goes immediately to a head office elsewhere, as opposed to local stores where that revenue tends to remain in the area allowing the shop owner to buy Range Rovers, build house extensions etc. The only money they put back into the local economy is via the wages paid to the low level local workers, remove them and these stores are just huge economic black holes sucking the wealth from the immediate area.
Inefficient labour benefits all of us. The tiny direct cost is dwarfed by the social and welfare cost of not having enough local employment opportunity. My personal view is that we, as individuals, shouldn’t be so willing to trade a minuscule gain in convenience when it permits these stores to put even less money back into our local community. As such, even if just buying a few items I will queue to be served by a fellow local human.
One could also argue the reverse in that efficient supermarkets in a hyper competitive sector lower everyday prices, which disproportionately benefits those on low level worker salaries.
Plate spinner said:
O/T but interesting point.
One could also argue the reverse in that efficient supermarkets in a hyper competitive sector lower everyday prices, which disproportionately benefits those on low level worker salaries.
More money in the pocket, but local quality of life plummets. I'd rather pay a bit more and have village shops personally. Getting off topic now but in the UK we should have followed France's example and only allowed big supermarkets retail space outside town.One could also argue the reverse in that efficient supermarkets in a hyper competitive sector lower everyday prices, which disproportionately benefits those on low level worker salaries.
Plate spinner said:
O/T but interesting point.
One could also argue the reverse in that efficient supermarkets in a hyper competitive sector lower everyday prices, which disproportionately benefits those on low level worker salaries.
Agreed but my view is that it is better to pay low income workers more benefits than it is to have more non workers. The money paid to workers gets spent rapidly and put back in the system, paying them more has a positive impact to a local area but removing employment opportunity has a devastating impact on a local area. One could also argue the reverse in that efficient supermarkets in a hyper competitive sector lower everyday prices, which disproportionately benefits those on low level worker salaries.
popeyewhite said:
More money in the pocket, but local quality of life plummets. I'd rather pay a bit more and have village shops personally. Getting off topic now but in the UK we should have followed France's example and only allowed big supermarkets retail space outside town.
Which is now a thing of the past as Auchan, Casino and Carrefour take huge chunks of the convenience market.BrabusMog said:
My poor MY19 RRS is probably written off after an accident last week. It is/was an extremely comfortable cruiser but it had so many annoying little issues that I won't be too upset if it actually does get written off. Going to try a Macan next, Porsche interiors look a level up from RR.
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