I now realise why everybody loves Range Rovers
Discussion
Chestrockwell said:
Sheepshanks said:
Chestrockwell said:
I’m fully comprehensive insured......
How? In your OP you said you don’t have a car.Chestrockwell said:
.....on other cars third party and the Range Rover is also insured fully comprehensive. I only borrowed it for the day,
Ah, that’s OK - you can’t crash it if you only drive it for a day. Unless you’ve been added to the RRS’s insurance it’s irrelevant while you’re driving it.I’m not an idiot, I’m insured on the car, do you think I’m going to risk 6 points on my licence and a massive fine to drive an old Range Rover about for a day, I don’t even need to explain myself!!
I see lots of stuff on PH, lots of stuff that’s contradictory but I just carry on scrolling because a. It’s not my business and B. I’m not going waste my time quoting and unquoting different things and use internet bandwidth to convey a message that achieves nothing. The worst part is that picking holes in something that’s not even relevant to the thread, I’m praising a car and you’re trying to figure out if I’m insured or not! Grow up
A colleague of mine got done for no insurance a few years back when he drove a mate's car home from the pub after his mate had a couple too many. He got pulled over in a random check scenario and was perfectly confident that he was insured TP on any car as it was included in his fully comp insurance at home...
That worked really well for him right up to the point where he discovered that because his wife had taken out the policies, she'd put herself down as the main policyholder on both cars with him down as a named driver. Yes, he had fully comp insurance on the family cars, but only his wife was insured to drive other people's cars third party, so despite having a perfectly valid explanation, he still got done for no insurance, as it's an absolute offence.
You might think that because you're insured fully comp on your mum's car, and that policy says that it covers other cars third party that you're insured to drive other cars third party, but unless you're the policyholder on your mum's car, this quite likely isn't the case, and it's only your mum who is insured to drive other cars third party.
Europa1 said:
akirk said:
one of the ironies of the internet...
the person who now drives a car apparently changes the image
yet if someone here buys it - the car changes their image - surely it can't work both ways...
if everyone on here is cool / trendy / upper class / fill in the acceptable trait - then we should all be buying the cars we like and we will set the image?!
I have owned 5 range rovers, at no point do I feel that my image has been determined by the car I have owned - I have also owned a Ford Kuga (faux 4x4?) / Skoda / and even one an old man's Rover 214 SLi in BRG with wood trim - aged 23! I am who I am and enjoy buying the cars that do what I want - the RR is a fantastic car for doing anything you want - go anywhere - acres of space - loads to the tip / hoardes of wet and muddy dogs / throw in a few children - go around a farm (I think we had 13 in one once on a shoot - with dogs!)
mind you - my current one isn't pimped out with black windows and 22 inch wheels - but I would have no issue owning / driving such a car
It is pimped with a bonnet ornament, though - what is it?the person who now drives a car apparently changes the image
yet if someone here buys it - the car changes their image - surely it can't work both ways...
if everyone on here is cool / trendy / upper class / fill in the acceptable trait - then we should all be buying the cars we like and we will set the image?!
I have owned 5 range rovers, at no point do I feel that my image has been determined by the car I have owned - I have also owned a Ford Kuga (faux 4x4?) / Skoda / and even one an old man's Rover 214 SLi in BRG with wood trim - aged 23! I am who I am and enjoy buying the cars that do what I want - the RR is a fantastic car for doing anything you want - go anywhere - acres of space - loads to the tip / hoardes of wet and muddy dogs / throw in a few children - go around a farm (I think we had 13 in one once on a shoot - with dogs!)
mind you - my current one isn't pimped out with black windows and 22 inch wheels - but I would have no issue owning / driving such a car
always used to have a leaping horse on the RR - until it was stolen one day...
replaced it with a Pegasus as at the time I was driving a P38a RR and during development the new RR's project name was Pegasus until the development team moved into building P38a...
The mascot has remained Pegasus ever since...
main use is to add tinsel at Christmas time
lord trumpton said:
I dislike everything about them and everything around them
Me too.These ghastly overstyled lumpen monstrosities are the principal weapon of choice for Essex's Glitterati and mouth breathing TOWIE wannabees here in the Essex Badlands.
That's more than enough to put anybody off even thinking about buying one IMO.
CAPP0 said:
Not a thing of the past, I have it on my car policies and on my bike policy. May be an age/policy history thing?
I got it for the first time this year as you have to be at least 25 to get it. 'Driving Other Car' benefit is what most places call it. For me I paid an admin fee as it is included on a Fully Comprehensive policy, you just have to ask for to be added.
Loplop said:
CAPP0 said:
Not a thing of the past, I have it on my car policies and on my bike policy. May be an age/policy history thing?
I got it for the first time this year as you have to be at least 25 to get it. I had one as a courtesy vehicle when my jag was in the dealer for a couple of weeks. It was a 2016 RRS in black. It really was a lovely car and I suddenly got it. Spacious, powerful, luxurious, amazing driving position. Seriously expensive as a new vehicle though, from memory of loitering in the showroom you could have had a pair of XF’s for the price of one RR. I’d argue it’s twice the car however.
Jaguar steve said:
lord trumpton said:
I dislike everything about them and everything around them
Me too.These ghastly overstyled lumpen monstrosities are the principal weapon of choice for Essex's Glitterati and mouth breathing TOWIE wannabees here in the Essex Badlands.
That's more than enough to put anybody off even thinking about buying one IMO.
Welshbeef said:
The version that came in 2012 onwards was and is very special.
Shame no 7 seats and the badging is baffling
2012(2013?) onwards RRS has 7 seats. The X5 gives that same feeling of driving a tank, but it simply is rather rough. I imagine the latest RRS to be rather refined, much much better over the bumps and apparently it handles on a somewhat similar level to the X5. Some claim the latest RRS to actually have a 'sporty' drive to it. Very attractive replacement for our X5 if the time comes. Engines seem like absolute peaches, the latest SDV6 has very similar performance to the V8, both now being twin turbo, but the SDV8 seems like a sublime engine. The ford based unit is rather strong as well apparently. I don't think maintenance could possibly be worse than the X5.Shame no 7 seats and the badging is baffling
DonkeyApple said:
Agree re the image but it’s an aspect that is geographically determined. Go to a chavvy area and you tend to see chavvy people in them, go to a non chavvy area and you don’t.
The issue is rather that most of the UK is now chav central with small pockets of civility rather than the other way around as it was before the great consumer spend got under way.
This isn’t helped by the fact that today there seem to be so many insecure men (maybe it’s the result of living a traditional female lifestyle of mirror gazing and shopping with someone else’s money?) that some need the largest, overt symbol of wealth that they can obtain while others have this perpetual inner belief that everyone is looking down on them so when someone is physically sitting higher up it really freaks them out.
What you have to ask yourself is why on threads about Range Rovers will you always get the posts about women. These cars really trigger the men who have an issue with women.
There is also the ‘they don’t go round corners’ bit that always crops up where the man feels the need to attain some form of manliness through driving skill. Or the the strange argument that people who buy expensive cars must be thicker than them.
And very clearly over the years on PH there has manifested the bloke who doesn’t mind non white or indigenous types so long as they stay in their place at the bottom but if one of them gets all uppity by driving around town in a nice big car then that’s not on.
What these cars do seem to do is trigger the issues, the insecurities of a lot of blokes. Some of which are inside the cars and others outside.
They don’t drive like race cars but then who’s confusing nipping to the shops with Le Mans? They are big but not bigger than a van. Seriously, what on Earth is the issue with women driving? This isn’t Saudi it’s 21st Britain. Other very comfortable cars are available so why get hooked up on one because it is taller than others.
They clearly trigger the chippy little Englishman but it’s not the car’s fault. The car is just a car and it has fantastic merits and some whooping downsides. It’s not an all rounder like a diesel estate but more a specialist choice like a sports car where you surrender certain benefits in exchange for the amplification of others that you hold personally more valuable.
The most obvious trade off being exchanging Le Mans lap times for a specific type of relaxing comfort.
Not everyone has married a G unit that requires winching into their Greggs teleporter or some Big Bird impersonator and here’s the little gem of information; if you need a big family car but your other half or yourself are a short arse then the layout of an SUV offers huge advantages over an estate or saloon of similar size.
10/10. You seem to have solved the generations-long debate over SUV's. They are simply cars that suit peoples needs, just like how a certain sofa suits a certain persons bum. The issue is rather that most of the UK is now chav central with small pockets of civility rather than the other way around as it was before the great consumer spend got under way.
This isn’t helped by the fact that today there seem to be so many insecure men (maybe it’s the result of living a traditional female lifestyle of mirror gazing and shopping with someone else’s money?) that some need the largest, overt symbol of wealth that they can obtain while others have this perpetual inner belief that everyone is looking down on them so when someone is physically sitting higher up it really freaks them out.
What you have to ask yourself is why on threads about Range Rovers will you always get the posts about women. These cars really trigger the men who have an issue with women.
There is also the ‘they don’t go round corners’ bit that always crops up where the man feels the need to attain some form of manliness through driving skill. Or the the strange argument that people who buy expensive cars must be thicker than them.
And very clearly over the years on PH there has manifested the bloke who doesn’t mind non white or indigenous types so long as they stay in their place at the bottom but if one of them gets all uppity by driving around town in a nice big car then that’s not on.
What these cars do seem to do is trigger the issues, the insecurities of a lot of blokes. Some of which are inside the cars and others outside.
They don’t drive like race cars but then who’s confusing nipping to the shops with Le Mans? They are big but not bigger than a van. Seriously, what on Earth is the issue with women driving? This isn’t Saudi it’s 21st Britain. Other very comfortable cars are available so why get hooked up on one because it is taller than others.
They clearly trigger the chippy little Englishman but it’s not the car’s fault. The car is just a car and it has fantastic merits and some whooping downsides. It’s not an all rounder like a diesel estate but more a specialist choice like a sports car where you surrender certain benefits in exchange for the amplification of others that you hold personally more valuable.
The most obvious trade off being exchanging Le Mans lap times for a specific type of relaxing comfort.
Not everyone has married a G unit that requires winching into their Greggs teleporter or some Big Bird impersonator and here’s the little gem of information; if you need a big family car but your other half or yourself are a short arse then the layout of an SUV offers huge advantages over an estate or saloon of similar size.
Kermit power said:
Still worth checking though. Unless you've got trade plates, how can you be insured on other people's cars without having one of your own?
A colleague of mine got done for no insurance a few years back when he drove a mate's car home from the pub after his mate had a couple too many. He got pulled over in a random check scenario and was perfectly confident that he was insured TP on any car as it was included in his fully comp insurance at home...
That worked really well for him right up to the point where he discovered that because his wife had taken out the policies, she'd put herself down as the main policyholder on both cars with him down as a named driver. Yes, he had fully comp insurance on the family cars, but only his wife was insured to drive other people's cars third party, so despite having a perfectly valid explanation, he still got done for no insurance, as it's an absolute offence.
You might think that because you're insured fully comp on your mum's car, and that policy says that it covers other cars third party that you're insured to drive other cars third party, but unless you're the policyholder on your mum's car, this quite likely isn't the case, and it's only your mum who is insured to drive other cars third party.
I suspect what he's done - and it's not like I've searched through posts, the info is in the first few words of the thread - is got rid of his previous car but kept the insurance running. This is a massive no no for a bunch of reasons.A colleague of mine got done for no insurance a few years back when he drove a mate's car home from the pub after his mate had a couple too many. He got pulled over in a random check scenario and was perfectly confident that he was insured TP on any car as it was included in his fully comp insurance at home...
That worked really well for him right up to the point where he discovered that because his wife had taken out the policies, she'd put herself down as the main policyholder on both cars with him down as a named driver. Yes, he had fully comp insurance on the family cars, but only his wife was insured to drive other people's cars third party, so despite having a perfectly valid explanation, he still got done for no insurance, as it's an absolute offence.
You might think that because you're insured fully comp on your mum's car, and that policy says that it covers other cars third party that you're insured to drive other cars third party, but unless you're the policyholder on your mum's car, this quite likely isn't the case, and it's only your mum who is insured to drive other cars third party.
The OP sounds like he's very young - I find very young drivers don't understand the nuances of way cover works in the UK. A lad I know got done for using his company car for his own business. He was completely baffled as clearly a company car is covered for business use - but it's only for the business the policyholder, not the driver's own business. As you said, thinking they're covered for DOC when they're a named driver is very common.
At the other extreme older drivers think fully comp means anyone can drive.
It is an issue for all of us - being hit by a RangeRover isn't likely to be pleasant, but it'll get much worse if it turns out the driver isn't insured. Would have saved my mate a lot of hassle if someone had told him what he was doing was dodgy - or at least he'd have known what not to say to the cop who stopped him.
The Mad Monk said:
"I now realise why everybody loves Range Rovers".
But they don't.
My first thought too. But they don't.
That said, whilst I wouldn’t want one, I can see the appeal. Big barge to waft around in, nice elevated driving position, supremely comfortable (I’d imagine) and a certain road presence (provided they haven’t been chavved with oversize rims, a bad boy body kit and/or blacked out glass).
Edited by Escort3500 on Tuesday 3rd December 16:48
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