Left turns accross Cycle Lanes

[Miserablegit]

jamei303 said:

What rules are those? The same ones that say buses in a bus lane can't undertake cars?

Laws of physics
If a car is stationary across a lane in the process of making a turn a bus cannot pass

[nickfrog]

julian64 said:

So I am cycling down a cycle lane and In front there is a car which is slowing and the indicator is on to turn left.

Do I

1) keep going and hope left indicating car has seen me and is waiting for me to pass first
2) slow up and stop even though I have right of way as per the highway code.

Anyone who answers (1) either has little or no experience of the roads, or is the sort of road warrior who will eventually come to grief and spend their time typing rubbish on PH cycle forums.

I wouldn't do (1) on a bicycle, motorcycle or car, and really not understanding the mentality of anyone else who would.

Fortunately, the real world is not as binary as you make it. I hope you haven't been stuck behind a bike for 45mn again lately btw

[Pistom]

nickfrog said:

julian64 said:

So I am cycling down a cycle lane and In front there is a car which is slowing and the indicator is on to turn left.

Do I

1) keep going and hope left indicating car has seen me and is waiting for me to pass first
2) slow up and stop even though I have right of way as per the highway code.

Anyone who answers (1) either has little or no experience of the roads, or is the sort of road warrior who will eventually come to grief and spend their time typing rubbish on PH cycle forums.


I wouldn't do (1) on a bicycle, motorcycle or car, and really not understanding the mentality of anyone else who would.

Fortunately, the real world is not as binary as you make it. I hope you haven't been stuck behind a bike for 45mn again lately btw

No it isn't as binary. Another example which really happens is that a bike is doing say 20 on a 40mph road. The car comes along at 40 arriving at the turning at the same time as the cyclist. Car turns left leaving the poor cyclist smacking into the n/s of the car.
The cyclist had no chance to see the car or stop in time. The car had every chance to see the bike and wait for it to clear.

[Zoli76]

anonymous-user said:

Or perhaps if the cyclist sees a left indicator he/she might have the sense to identify a vehicle turning left. After all, buses in bus lanes seem able to manage exactly the same thing without getting all uppity about it.

When you turning left trough cycle lane, and no cyclists next to your vehicle only behind you. If your vehicle is moving, and the turn signal is on, can cyclists come in next to your vehicle?

[Super Sonic]

anonymous-user said:

Or perhaps if the cyclist sees a left indicator he/she might have the sense to identify a vehicle turning left. After all, buses in bus lanes seem able to manage exactly the same thing without getting all uppity about it.

So if a bus is in a bus lane and he sees a car on his right indicating left to turn across the bus lane he stops and waits? Lol.

[stogbandard]

The latest standards for cycle provision are set out in a document called LTN 1/20.

For new developments some authorities are asking for 4m cycle routes alongside pavements, and for cycle priority at junctions making for very wide estate road corridors. This is all well and good in urban areas where there are good cycle routes to connect to, but asking for this in new developments in large villages where cycle use is not going to be large, due to a lack of infrastructure and longer distances to wider facilities is complete overkill.

[Byronwww]

Miserablegit said:

chow pan toon said:

Apart from where one has a cycle lane to one's left as in the situation one is commenting on. Then one would be potentially turning across the cycling traffic in the process of making the left turn one is attempting. Unless one has missed the point and one is assuming cycles aren't traffic.

If we accept cycles are traffic then they are bound by the same rules that apply to other traffic. I don't undertake cars turning left in front of me.

Do you expect buses in the bus lane to stop and wait for you when you need to cut across them?


If you are cutting across a lane (be that bus, cycle or car lane) those in that lane have priority over you turning across their lane. It's not that difficult to understand.