RE: Someone has done the Cannonball in 27hrs 25mins
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gkeele said:
Is it? Anyone can bury their foot in the carpet of an E-Class for a day, it requires no talent whatsoever. Just a keen eye and deep pockets.
Have you ever tried to hustle that car at those speeds? I drove mine very quickly where law permitted and it required a superhuman amount of concentration to do. To manage that over a near 28 hour period is nothing short of utterly astounding as an achievement.Utter lunacy, and a little reckless towards other life, but still an achievement.
Itsallicanafford said:
Galsia said:
These guys shouldn't be celebrated, they should be in prison.
+1 from me, what a stupid thing to do. I am really surprised that PH has given this publicity.browngt3 said:
Well said.
The fun police are everywhere these days. One or two of them seem to be conflating the Cannonball with the idiotic driving we see everyday on our roads. Not the same thing at all.
The Cannonball is a fantastic 2 fingers to both the authorities and those fun police. It's also a test of speed and endurance which takes a lot of planning. The fact that it's highly illegal adds some additional spice. Long may it continue!
100% bang on!The fun police are everywhere these days. One or two of them seem to be conflating the Cannonball with the idiotic driving we see everyday on our roads. Not the same thing at all.
The Cannonball is a fantastic 2 fingers to both the authorities and those fun police. It's also a test of speed and endurance which takes a lot of planning. The fact that it's highly illegal adds some additional spice. Long may it continue!
well this leave me all mixed up frankly!
- I love fast cars, and do love a V8
- I do think it's a shame that cars like these will inevitably become much more difficult to own and buy, because of regulation
- But i also refuse to be just another internet middle aged man boring cliche who because of points 1 and 2 refuses to accept *actual objective truth* on climate change, and so use Greta and "environutter" cliches like a sad, miserable old b
d too stupid and/or ignorant to see the world and truth for what it is
- But then i think f**k it, what has that got to do with the Cannonball run anyway
- And then i reflect that when i see people excessively speeding on the road I universally hate them, and reflect my attitudes to this have shifted a lot since getting older/being a father/doing track days/buying a racecar
- So i think i should probably be pretty miffed and maybe even disgusted this is both done, but also celebrated by Pistonheads
- And then i think... "yeah but, it is pretty cool what they did... isn't it?".
Augustus Windsock said:
Part of me wants to (figuratively) punch the air and shout ‘take that, all you yoghurt-weaving, muesli-treading, sandle-wearing save the earth types’
We are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
cringeWe are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
cidered77 said:
well this leave me all mixed up frankly!
My thoughts are very similar.- I love fast cars, and do love a V8
- I do think it's a shame that cars like these will inevitably become much more difficult to own and buy, because of regulation
- But i also refuse to be just another internet middle aged man boring cliche who because of points 1 and 2 refuses to accept *actual objective truth* on climate change, and so use Greta and "environutter" cliches like a sad, miserable old bd too stupid and/or ignorant to see the world and truth for what it is
- But then i think f**k it, what has that got to do with the Cannonball run anyway
- And then i reflect that when i see people excessively speeding on the road I universally hate them, and reflect my attitudes to this have shifted a lot since getting older/being a father/doing track days/buying a racecar
- So i think i should probably be pretty miffed and maybe even disgusted this is both done, but also celebrated by Pistonheads
- And then i think... "yeah but, it is pretty cool what they did... isn't it?".
I alos think that had something gone wrong (proably quote likely with high speed, tiredness, dark, etc) and an accident happened the reaction would obviously be very different.
Arsecati said:
Cheezus kryste, so much PC whinging bo11ox on here these days - why are you still reading PH?? My claim to 'cross country America' fame is crossing from San Jose to NYC in 49 hours and 15 minutes on my own in a Honda Accord 'driveaway' in mid-March back in 96. It wasn't planned, but I was hoping to make NYC by St. Patrick's Day (4 days away), and once I got going - the madness to keep going non-stop took over.
A total distance of 3024 miles, only stopping for fuel, food, fluids and to pee (and one speeding ticket in Nevada!). To those complaining about danger to the public, I can assure there was NOTHING on those roads the entire time, apart from leaving SJ and then again in NYC.... NOTHING in between. To those on about the dangers of fatigue, well in my mid-stretch, I drove solid for 22 hours without sleep/rest until I could take no more and grabbed a couple of hours in a service stop before launching in to the last leg. Granted, that sounds utter lunacy now, but I was only 25 and lacking sense/fear: All I needed was caffeine from coffee or diet cola (no Monster or Red Bull back then!). With this attempt, there were actually THREE of these guys in the car, and the adrenaline alone would be more than enough to keep them focussed, so absolutely zero chance of the driver falling asleep at the wheel.
Incidentally, I drove over 360 miles in 24 hours yesterday taking my old 944 S2 from Dublin (Holyhead) to Sheffield and back: Over 4 and a half hours to get from Sheffield to Holyhead on the way back - a distance of only 168 miles. Crawling on those motorways for mile after mile was soul destroying - I was literally beginning to stress out with the feelings of being trapped on those b@$tard fu€&1ng roads, just trying to get back to Holyhead to catch the ferry home: trust me, there is no bloody danger of anyone trying a cross-country record in the UK..... the traffic is literally evil!!
I could go on, but I've drivelled enough. Seems no matter what the story/achievement/endeavour is - if it's got anything at all to with burning petrol or speed, it's getting shot down by the self-appointed morality police. Yes, things need to change, but FFS - are we not allowed just ONE last haven here on the internet, where we can let loose with our hedonistic pleasures of excessive speed and gargling fuel?? Can you not please just leave Pistonheads for the rest of us, so we can continue desperately hanging on to the last vestiges of a rapidly declining motoring world, before it's all gone and replaced by autonomous unicorn-fart powered electrobubbles?
didnt read lolA total distance of 3024 miles, only stopping for fuel, food, fluids and to pee (and one speeding ticket in Nevada!). To those complaining about danger to the public, I can assure there was NOTHING on those roads the entire time, apart from leaving SJ and then again in NYC.... NOTHING in between. To those on about the dangers of fatigue, well in my mid-stretch, I drove solid for 22 hours without sleep/rest until I could take no more and grabbed a couple of hours in a service stop before launching in to the last leg. Granted, that sounds utter lunacy now, but I was only 25 and lacking sense/fear: All I needed was caffeine from coffee or diet cola (no Monster or Red Bull back then!). With this attempt, there were actually THREE of these guys in the car, and the adrenaline alone would be more than enough to keep them focussed, so absolutely zero chance of the driver falling asleep at the wheel.
Incidentally, I drove over 360 miles in 24 hours yesterday taking my old 944 S2 from Dublin (Holyhead) to Sheffield and back: Over 4 and a half hours to get from Sheffield to Holyhead on the way back - a distance of only 168 miles. Crawling on those motorways for mile after mile was soul destroying - I was literally beginning to stress out with the feelings of being trapped on those b@$tard fu€&1ng roads, just trying to get back to Holyhead to catch the ferry home: trust me, there is no bloody danger of anyone trying a cross-country record in the UK..... the traffic is literally evil!!
I could go on, but I've drivelled enough. Seems no matter what the story/achievement/endeavour is - if it's got anything at all to with burning petrol or speed, it's getting shot down by the self-appointed morality police. Yes, things need to change, but FFS - are we not allowed just ONE last haven here on the internet, where we can let loose with our hedonistic pleasures of excessive speed and gargling fuel?? Can you not please just leave Pistonheads for the rest of us, so we can continue desperately hanging on to the last vestiges of a rapidly declining motoring world, before it's all gone and replaced by autonomous unicorn-fart powered electrobubbles?
What is it about the populations of countries, where there are no speed limits on certain roads, that prompts them to continue to defend this freedom?
A scant regard for life?
Or a more balanced view on risk and responsibility that we seem to have left behind in this country....
That said, I'm fairly sure a good proportion of PH'ers have been north of 150 on UK roads at one point in time or another...
You picks your moments...
A scant regard for life?
Or a more balanced view on risk and responsibility that we seem to have left behind in this country....
That said, I'm fairly sure a good proportion of PH'ers have been north of 150 on UK roads at one point in time or another...
You picks your moments...
Max_Torque said:
Great and all, but that's easy to say when you haven't had a friend or relaitve killed or seriously injured by a reckless driver, i.ee It's all a matter of perspective.
If that were the case, then it's pretty much certain your perspective might be less towards "fun" and more towards being responsible....
I do agree with the sentiment of your argument - and it is easy for me to be objective, not having been personally affected by a reckless cannonballer. But...If that were the case, then it's pretty much certain your perspective might be less towards "fun" and more towards being responsible....
1. It is a significant achievement. It isn't just burying your foot into the wilton. It's the planning around traffic, police, the development of the car and unique skills to drive that way. Sure, you've got a load of driving time under your belt from vehicle R&D. But you know that you couldn't go out to the States with a mate, hire an RS6, and get within 10 hours of that time without being arrested.
2. Where do you draw the line with banning risk associated to pointless activities. Landing on the moon "within the decade" was at ver best a PR stunt. And it killed people. Going for a ride on a horse is pointless, and has killed people.
I wouldn't do it, you wouldn't do it. But I think it's good that some people have the spirit to do it.
rampageturke said:
Augustus Windsock said:
Part of me wants to (figuratively) punch the air and shout ‘take that, all you yoghurt-weaving, muesli-treading, sandle-wearing save the earth types’
We are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
cringeWe are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
A1VDY said:
The only ones that would agree with this stupidity are the usual desmonds on this forum, these will inevitably take the form of skinny goofy, geeky, nerdy types who themselves think they're driving gods.
Daft behaviour like this just shows how many out there have absolutely no regard for others lives. Kill an innocent person who got in the way of their quest for publicity and this type of moron would inevitably plead not guilty in court. Totally selfish pricks who should never be on the roads..
Daft behaviour like this just shows how many out there have absolutely no regard for others lives. Kill an innocent person who got in the way of their quest for publicity and this type of moron would inevitably plead not guilty in court. Totally selfish pricks who should never be on the roads..
I presume from above that you have never broken a speed limit
Hangten77 said:
Used to be cool but like Knight Rider... now seems out of kilter/childish
Wtf! An outrageous thing to say! I hear you and have always felt the gumball type rallies are deeply uncool, attention seeking stupidity that does the rest of the car enthusiast world no favours. The canonball; a single car absolutely hooning across the mostly deserted American planes as safely and subtly as possible is completely different IMORedSwede said:
2. Where do you draw the line with banning risk associated to pointless activities. Landing on the moon "within the decade" was at ver best a PR stunt. And it killed people. Going for a ride on a horse is pointless, and has killed people.
None of those "achievements" you mention risk comepltely innocent persons. That's the difference. What is reckless in this case is that you are risking other peoples lives simply for your own "glory", and those people have had no say in the matter.Of the people on here saying it's fine, how many would be fine with me repeatidly doing 90 past their house? Or what about me drifting past or doing donuts on their drive? I suspect that the anwers is none. And that's my point, when you are not personally involved, it's easy to cast a blind eye to recklessness, as soon as you become involved, peoples attitudes tend to change.
A1VDY said:
The only ones that would agree with this stupidity are the usual desmonds on this forum, these will inevitably take the form of skinny goofy, geeky, nerdy types who themselves think they're driving gods.
Daft behaviour like this just shows how many out there have absolutely no regard for others lives. Kill an innocent person who got in the way of their quest for publicity and this type of moron would inevitably plead not guilty in court. Totally selfish pricks who should never be on the roads..
Well I'm a 48 year old sub-3 hour marathon running, 3 x Ironman (10:12 Copenhagen 2018), motorbike racing, certified sky-diving, etc., etc., NON-driving god who 100% wholeheartedly agrees with this 'stupidity'. According to you though, I'm 'skinny, goofy, geeky and nerdy': tell ya what mate, not many of them standing around at the start of a 2.4 mile swim about to begin another Ironman (with the 112 mile cycle and full 26.2 mile marathon to follow). Maybe someone else here has certain feelings of inadequacy? Daft behaviour like this just shows how many out there have absolutely no regard for others lives. Kill an innocent person who got in the way of their quest for publicity and this type of moron would inevitably plead not guilty in court. Totally selfish pricks who should never be on the roads..
TimoMak said:
rampageturke said:
Augustus Windsock said:
Part of me wants to (figuratively) punch the air and shout ‘take that, all you yoghurt-weaving, muesli-treading, sandle-wearing save the earth types’
We are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
cringeWe are constrained more and more by governments bending over backwards to subdue the motorist, with the proliferation of speed and average speed cameras.
this bit
I'm in the "fair play to them" camp
Think I would like to do the sunrise to sunset challenge that clarkson did in the UK, seems kinda cool and not as time precious as other challenges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuANURnBzWQ
Think I would like to do the sunrise to sunset challenge that clarkson did in the UK, seems kinda cool and not as time precious as other challenges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuANURnBzWQ
Max_Torque said:
Of the people on here saying it's fine, how many would be fine with me repeatidly doing 90 past their house? Or what about me drifting past or doing donuts on their drive? I suspect that the anwers is none.
This is a ridiculous strawman argument. Driving across the great planes of America is not like driving around a housing estate. I'm genuinely sorry if you've lost someone to a reckless driver but making up these kind of analogies is pointless. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff