RE: No Time to Die trailer | Time for Tea
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sidesauce said:
You or your friends may not have posed such questions but you're right, your version of events is anecdotal - it's not a strawman, at all:-
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/news/a28515/...
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/07/164809/ho...
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/07/... (last paragraph)
As somebody else has said, this Bond movie is going to be very "woke" - for a start, the term 'Bond Girls' was reportedly banned from the set and it was also rumoured that at one point Craig was going to be replaced by a black female actress called Lashana Lynch; apparently the negative social media backlash was so string, they wisely went against that idea.
Lashana has said in an interview in the Hollywood Reporter:-
“Everyone was really responsive to having her be what I wanted. You’re given a fresh perspective on a brand-new black woman in the Bond world.”
“I didn’t want someone who was slick. I wanted someone who was rough around the edges and who has a past and a history and has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend.”
“We had one conversation about her maybe being on her period in one scene, and maybe at the beginning of the scene — and I spoke to Cary about this — throwing her tampon in the thing.”
If this isn't woke, I don't know what is.
I also agree with those who believe the DB5 should be left alone now. It's getting old and tired to keep bringing it back in every movie when the company who made it has clearly has moved on!
Lashanna Lynch was NEVER going to be the actual 007 - Craig is contracted for this film for that purpose. Are they trying to expand to new audiences by having a black woman as a transitional 007? Yes they are but Hollywood is in the business of making money after all, and needs fresh demographics. https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/news/a28515/...
https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2017/07/164809/ho...
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/07/... (last paragraph)
As somebody else has said, this Bond movie is going to be very "woke" - for a start, the term 'Bond Girls' was reportedly banned from the set and it was also rumoured that at one point Craig was going to be replaced by a black female actress called Lashana Lynch; apparently the negative social media backlash was so string, they wisely went against that idea.
Lashana has said in an interview in the Hollywood Reporter:-
“Everyone was really responsive to having her be what I wanted. You’re given a fresh perspective on a brand-new black woman in the Bond world.”
“I didn’t want someone who was slick. I wanted someone who was rough around the edges and who has a past and a history and has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend.”
“We had one conversation about her maybe being on her period in one scene, and maybe at the beginning of the scene — and I spoke to Cary about this — throwing her tampon in the thing.”
If this isn't woke, I don't know what is.
I also agree with those who believe the DB5 should be left alone now. It's getting old and tired to keep bringing it back in every movie when the company who made it has clearly has moved on!
3 articles does not a trend make, my friend
And the USA Today article merely mentions that 'some' people may be put off by there not being any POC or women and thats it. You really give credibility to the premise behind the 'ok boomer' meme :P
Personally I'm happy that the DB5 is back, and the only annoying vehicular thing for me in this trailer is the horrible CGI when Bond jumps the Triumph Scrambler, but apart from that I'm v much looking forward to this film
BlackPrince said:
Personally I'm happy that the DB5 is back, and the only annoying vehicular thing for me in this trailer is the horrible CGI when Bond jumps the Triumph Scrambler, but apart from that I'm v much looking forward to this film
Horrible CGI? That stunt was done for real, the only CGI is to cover the scaffolding holding up the ramp and make it look like stone wall!BlackPrince said:
Lashanna Lynch was NEVER going to be the actual 007 - Craig is contracted for this film for that purpose. Are they trying to expand to new audiences by having a black woman as a transitional 007? Yes they are but Hollywood is in the business of making money after all, and needs fresh demographics.
3 articles does not a trend make, my friend And the USA Today article merely mentions that 'some' people may be put off by there not being any POC or women and thats it.
You really give credibility to the premise behind the 'ok boomer' meme :P
Personally I'm happy that the DB5 is back, and the only annoying vehicular thing for me in this trailer is the horrible CGI when Bond jumps the Triumph Scrambler, but apart from that I'm v much looking forward to this film
I never said or implied she was going to be the actual 007 for this movie however we all know Craig isn't doing any more after this one - the rumour was that she was considered for his replacement. You obviously didn't read the numerous articles written about the sources, particularly the Marie Claire piece - it's way more than three but in the interests of transparency, I only decided to include the originals, not the articles about the articles...3 articles does not a trend make, my friend
And the USA Today article merely mentions that 'some' people may be put off by there not being any POC or women and thats it. You really give credibility to the premise behind the 'ok boomer' meme :P
Personally I'm happy that the DB5 is back, and the only annoying vehicular thing for me in this trailer is the horrible CGI when Bond jumps the Triumph Scrambler, but apart from that I'm v much looking forward to this film
And sorry to break it to you but I'm no Boomer, I'm a Gen X-er (just missed being a millennial by a couple years).
There's a lot of angry people here, getting worked up about a trailer for a film. A film about escapism, some fun, some espionage, and some quirky gadgets. The producers have a tough task - when they deviate from the norm for a Bond film, they get moaned at. When they centre on tradition and some of the aspects of classic films, they get moaned at. Bond has to compete with a Mission:Impossible franchise that goes from strength to strength. No Time To Die has had the kitchen sink thrown at it, and should remedy most of the complaints about Spectre (particularly Christoph Waltz, who wanted another crack at it as he came across a bit 'panto' last time around).
This time around, everyone seems offended that a double-0 can be female. There's no female Bond - let's make that clear; Bond's retired, his code name has been re-assigned, and that's it. The main thing I picked up in the trailer was some marital issues, a villain who reminds me of someone from 1962 who had metal hands
, and a soundtrack that sounds spot on - quite a big thing with changing composers from Newman.
Unfortunately, I think some individuals need to realise we're nearly in 2020, not 1920. Attitudes have changed - the very reason Phoebe Waller-Bridge was brought in to refine the script was that she's a very talented writer that can make strong female characters, without it screaming feminism and protest. Being a massive Bond nut, I want them to get it right - I remember leaving the cinema after Spectre feeling deflated, and almost let down. Everything I've seen and read about No Time To Die, indicates they're back on form.
As for the DB5, ask the guys at AM Works who are building the Bond continuation cars, it's been a challenge fitting the old guns in the headlights, let alone a pair of gatlings
. It's a bit of fun, and it changes it up a bit. Eagle eyed viewers will spot the number plate isn't 'correct', but the car's history is of that which was blown up in Skyfall, repaired in Spectre and driven off at the end of the film. Q branch oversaw the rebuild, hence the 'refinements'.
This time around, everyone seems offended that a double-0 can be female. There's no female Bond - let's make that clear; Bond's retired, his code name has been re-assigned, and that's it. The main thing I picked up in the trailer was some marital issues, a villain who reminds me of someone from 1962 who had metal hands
, and a soundtrack that sounds spot on - quite a big thing with changing composers from Newman.Unfortunately, I think some individuals need to realise we're nearly in 2020, not 1920. Attitudes have changed - the very reason Phoebe Waller-Bridge was brought in to refine the script was that she's a very talented writer that can make strong female characters, without it screaming feminism and protest. Being a massive Bond nut, I want them to get it right - I remember leaving the cinema after Spectre feeling deflated, and almost let down. Everything I've seen and read about No Time To Die, indicates they're back on form.
As for the DB5, ask the guys at AM Works who are building the Bond continuation cars, it's been a challenge fitting the old guns in the headlights, let alone a pair of gatlings
. It's a bit of fun, and it changes it up a bit. Eagle eyed viewers will spot the number plate isn't 'correct', but the car's history is of that which was blown up in Skyfall, repaired in Spectre and driven off at the end of the film. Q branch oversaw the rebuild, hence the 'refinements'.NFC 85 Vette said:
There's a lot of angry people here, getting worked up about a trailer for a film. A film about escapism, some fun, some espionage, and some quirky gadgets. The producers have a tough task - when they deviate from the norm for a Bond film, they get moaned at. When they centre on tradition and some of the aspects of classic films, they get moaned at.
Maybe we just really liked James Bond movies? There's nothing wrong with using "some aspects" of classic Bond movies. The problem is that the writers/producers decided every new Bond film needs to tick every box, and it's blindingly obvious. How many gadgety cars were there before Brosnan? Half a dozen, maybe? Since Brosnan, every single film has had one.NFC 85 Vette said:
As for the DB5, ask the guys at AM Works who are building the Bond continuation cars, it's been a challenge fitting the old guns in the headlights, let alone a pair of gatlings . It's a bit of fun, and it changes it up a bit. Eagle eyed viewers will spot the number plate isn't 'correct', but the car's history is of that which was blown up in Skyfall, repaired in Spectre and driven off at the end of the film. Q branch oversaw the rebuild, hence the 'refinements'.
The DB5 has been in so many recent Bond movies I don't understand how it's "changing things up". And it still makes no sense. It's a very old car and sticks out like a sore thumb.. It's a bit of fun, and it changes it up a bit. Eagle eyed viewers will spot the number plate isn't 'correct', but the car's history is of that which was blown up in Skyfall, repaired in Spectre and driven off at the end of the film. Q branch oversaw the rebuild, hence the 'refinements'.Even if you believe that it was possible to rebuild a car that was blown to a million pieces - there's as little reason for Q branch to do that to a highly outdated car as there is for them (or Bond) to still own it in the first place. Retire it and give him a gadgety M3/M5 or something, it's far more believable that Q branch would do that.
Venturist said:
Horrible CGI? That stunt was done for real, the only CGI is to cover the scaffolding holding up the ramp and make it look like stone wall!
And there's another whole YouTube film dedicated to how they did it here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt94TGx0Yas&fe...
sidesauce said:
Lashana has said in an interview in the Hollywood Reporter:-
“I didn’t want someone who was slick. I wanted someone who was rough around the edges and who has a past and a history and has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend.”
Could this get more cliched?“I didn’t want someone who was slick. I wanted someone who was rough around the edges and who has a past and a history and has issues with her weight and maybe questions what’s going on with her boyfriend.”
“As the perpetrator fled the chateau, Bond instinctively followed. Death for one of the two seemed inevitable. A squeal of wheels announced the hitwoman’s departure.
Bond rifled in her handbag for her keys. Fiendishly buried beneath a mass of receipts, 15 year old loyalty cards and leaking make up, a mere 15 minutes passed until her lightening quick reactions located then.
Changing into her flat shoes (which are like totally so comfortable I mean who even wears heels these days?!) she hurried to her car only pausing when she dropped her handbag and spent 20 minutes picking up the contents.
Leaping into her car, she quickly realised that the villain had fiendishly hindered her escape by making her have to back out of the space. After only 4 attempts, Bond’s masterful driving meant she was out of the space in hot pursuit of the perp. Stopping only to check Facebook, text her mum and put £10 of the wrong fuel in her car, the chase was very much on......”
I don't know what 'woke' is, and I don't want to know. I keep hearing it being mentioned, but considering the context I hear it being mentioned in, I know that it is something that I really couldn't be @r$€d to know, so I usually try divert my attention to something more appealing...... like motorbikes or Kylie Minogue (I'm 48, so yes, Kylie.). Someone else started going on about 'sjw' or something or other. Again, I know it is something I don't want to know for the reasons mentioned above, and because I'm just bloody sick of the whole thing and I quite like being ignorant and simple. I so honestly couldn't give a monkeys mickie what other people are in to or up to or want to do or whatever........ I like cars, motorbikes and females - very, very simple: why should I feel guilty about this?
The DB5 Bond wins in Casino Royale is not the same one featured in the rest of Craig's movies - it is left hand drive and on Bahamas plates.
The 'other' DB5 is RHD and carries the same registration - BMT 216A - as the car that was featured in the Connery movies and three of Brosnan's.
The 'other' DB5 is RHD and carries the same registration - BMT 216A - as the car that was featured in the Connery movies and three of Brosnan's.
Baileyk said:
No one's asking you to feel guilty because you like car, girls and motorbikes - certainly not the producers of the latest bond film.
Though liking Kylie is execution worthy.
And you are exactly the person I am talking about. Please go be woke somewhere else and leave the rest of us alone.Though liking Kylie is execution worthy.
I enjoyed the first Daniel Craig Bond reboot - bit more gritty, real etc...
...Looks like it's gone back into "Trousers that turn into jam" Bond. Not an aficionado but the cycle does seem to be start normal and get slowly more ridiculous until it's so absurd that you need everything to go normal again
...Looks like it's gone back into "Trousers that turn into jam" Bond. Not an aficionado but the cycle does seem to be start normal and get slowly more ridiculous until it's so absurd that you need everything to go normal again
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