second engine just for sounds?

second engine just for sounds?

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RizzoTheRat

25,191 posts

193 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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TheAngryDog said:
what would the point be? I don't think hearing a 20,000 RPM bike engine all the time is something most people would want to hear. Also, wouldn't be very green really, would it?
Especially as a 20k rpm bike engine presumably means a 2 stroke biggrin

I prefer Musk's idea, who wouldn't want the Pythonesque sound of coconuts? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/11808784962240...

CS Garth

2,860 posts

106 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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I see they’ve got the broadband back up at Broadmoor

996TT02

3,308 posts

141 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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WCZ said:
just wondering has a car manufacturer ever put a second engine in that wasn't actually connected to the drivetrain just to beef up the sound a bit?

people are complaining about modern exhaust notes a lot these days so what's to stop a 20,000rpm bike engine being stuck at the back hidden somewhere to accompany the noise?
Some manufacturers should start offering discounts on blow up dolls to strap in the passenger seat. Just to pretend some people have actually got a girlfriend.

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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STe_rsv4 said:
Instead of lumping a 100 kg engine in the back and having it running, would pd it not just be simpler to have a fk off big speaker in the car that makes engine running noises?
Weird thread is weird
Audi have got you covered

crofty1984

15,873 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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anonymous said:
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BORING! I want a fkin' space ship with lasers. Pew! Pew! Pew!

WCZ

Original Poster:

10,537 posts

195 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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TheDrBrian said:
Audi have got you covered
in essence this is what I was talking about as oppose to creating fake sounds in the cabin

it might sound insane but I remember watching a mclaren documentary and they put a lot of effort into creating and adjusting the engine/exhaust to create a pleasing audible noise

my point is in these of days of fake noise within the cabin why not create a similar experience out of it which technically would be authentic as it'd be coming from a small engine

just a thought and not as mental imo as people seem to think here

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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WCZ said:
just a thought and not as mental imo as people seem to think here
The meds have worn off again haven't they nuts

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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WCZ said:
in essence this is what I was talking about as oppose to creating fake sounds in the cabin

it might sound insane but I remember watching a mclaren documentary and they put a lot of effort into creating and adjusting the engine/exhaust to create a pleasing audible noise

my point is in these of days of fake noise within the cabin why not create a similar experience out of it which technically would be authentic as it'd be coming from a small engine

just a thought and not as mental imo as people seem to think here
Stop, have a sit down, perhaps a nice cup of tea, and think what a making noise with a small engine would sound like.
Clue - it would sound like a small engine.


Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Plus packaging, cost, complete pointlessness. Burning fuel to spin a motor that has no practical function seems unlikely when manufacturers are trying to get every last fraction of an mpg. Engines have a fair weight too

Edited by Jimmy Recard on Monday 16th December 19:54

WCZ

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10,537 posts

195 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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talksthetorque said:
Stop, have a sit down, perhaps a nice cup of tea, and think what a making noise with a small engine would sound like.
Clue - it would sound like a small engine.
Sitting down having a cup of tea thinking about how I’ve seen 125cc engines on quad bikes so loud they set off car alarms and drive people absolutely insane, probably the loudest vehicles I’ve ever heard in my life. To answer your question

mwstewart

7,619 posts

189 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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This was a genuine laugh out loud moment for me.

Nice thought smile

Benni

3,517 posts

212 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Just for sounds ? What a waste, when you can have it for constant boost without turbo lag.
Nic Mann has a long history of very special cars which he built and raced,
the most mental one was his hillclimber, 4cyl turbo with heli aux turbine spooling up the turbo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EMleegZQLw&pb...

For a strange reason, I cannot watch almost all other of his videos, somehow blocked internally.

Exige77

6,518 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Is this thread real ?

Is there another thread running in the background just for laughs smile

bluezedd

1,009 posts

83 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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RizzoTheRat said:
Especially as a 20k rpm bike engine presumably means a 2 stroke biggrin
Not sure why it needs to be a 2 stroke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyksKx6txo

Bill

52,830 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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Exige77 said:
Is this thread real ?

Is there another thread running in the background just for laughs smile
Wrong way round. This thread is the humour generator for the whole of NP&E!

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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WCZ said:
Sitting down having a cup of tea thinking about how I’ve seen 125cc engines on quad bikes so loud they set off car alarms and drive people absolutely insane, probably the loudest vehicles I’ve ever heard in my life. To answer your question
Is it a nice noise though?
And would
It sound right in something big enough to cope with fitting a second engine for noise.

What biscuits are you having?

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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WCZ said:
in essence this is what I was talking about as oppose to creating fake sounds in the cabin

it might sound insane but I remember watching a mclaren documentary and they put a lot of effort into creating and adjusting the engine/exhaust to create a pleasing audible noise

my point is in these of days of fake noise within the cabin why not create a similar experience out of it which technically would be authentic as it'd be coming from a small engine

just a thought and not as mental imo as people seem to think here
It's not insane to augment/tune the sound from the exhaust or even to put speakers in the exhaust like Audi did, but it is insane to add an additional engine to just make a noise, a small engine? How's that going to sound like a thundering V8 or are you trying to replicate a Kia Picanto's sound?

It is mental BTW.





sidewaysste

104 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I knew I'd slept in, but I didn't realise I'd slept in until April 1st...

Unless the OP is actually being serious, in which case they have such a devastating lack of understanding of cars that they should hand in their driving licence immediately, move to a remote island somewhere and never, ever speak again.

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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I give you the Chaparral 2 J , which raced in 1970 Can Am . Engine number one was a thumping great Chevy V8 , but engine number two was a little two stroke which drove the bloody great fans which gave the car ground effect , and eight years before the Brabham F1 fan car . In the footage I have seen you can even hear the irritating little buzz over the Chevy's rumble .

sidewaysste

104 posts

186 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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coppice said:
I give you the Chaparral 2 J , which raced in 1970 Can Am . Engine number one was a thumping great Chevy V8 , but engine number two was a little two stroke which drove the bloody great fans which gave the car ground effect , and eight years before the Brabham F1 fan car . In the footage I have seen you can even hear the irritating little buzz over the Chevy's rumble .
Thanks, but no one asked for it?

There have been plenty of fan cars, the only difference wih that one being that it is an IC motor rather than an electric one.. It's not really related to the OP's question.