Parking in a disabled space when a car park is full
Discussion
RogerDodger said:
J4CKO said:
If you park in a disabled spot when not disabled then you are bit of a scummy person, same with the P and C ones if you dont have small children with you.
Probably cannot be trusted with honesty boxes or any other system that involves trust, same mindset that claims for food poisoning on holiday when not ill or whiplash injuries when not injured, claiming benefits when not entitled etc etc.
Yup. I steal from charity tins, the church collection tray, countless insurance scams. Typing this has made my neck hurt....Probably cannot be trusted with honesty boxes or any other system that involves trust, same mindset that claims for food poisoning on holiday when not ill or whiplash injuries when not injured, claiming benefits when not entitled etc etc.
Idiot comment. How the hell can you compare disabled bays with P&C bays? Seriously.
Just makes you a bit of a muppet if you avoid them at all costs. You do know there are countless cars with empty child seats in them that use them all the time? (and no, they didn't arrive with kids either)
I would say using either suggests an individuals moral compass is a bit off so may also be a little more predisposed to other transgressions.
stuartmmcfc said:
I’ve really found them to be very useful and I’m really grateful for them.
Me too, my son is 11 in a couple of days and I'm currently back to having to use a normal car as I don't have the money to put down for a WAV (I don't know how people crowdfund to buy stuff, we tried a fundraiser and whilst I'm grateful for the few hundred pounds it raised it fell very short) from Motability. He's tall and that extra space when trying to lift him out of the car is invaluable to stop me damaging him, myself or someones pride and joy. Even more so since I got run over and suffered a complex tear of the meniscus and a torn rotator cuff.If there's no disabled spaces then he's still young enough I can swing a P&C (although I often have the two younger kids with me to, pushing two chairs at once is much fun) but without the bigger space I'd probably have to abort and head home. Which would actually be fine because I hate supermarkets
Who me said:
Surprisingly he was most apologetic. He'd not seen the signs.
Uh huh, yeah they're so easy to miss - 4 foot picture on the road, coloured lines and massive coloured signs right in front of your face when you stop....what he meant was he was sorry he been caught and actually been called out on it for once.Thinking more about it, I think P&C spaces would make more sense if they were specifically for use by people with a child under a certain age that requires a car seat and a pushchair, as that is when you need that extra space.
However most people who use them seem to think it means any child under about 15, which is why I have no issue with anyone using them - the parents are already abusing the principle of the system so the spaces become fair game imho.
ninepoint2 said:
It's simple really park as far away from the Store as possible therfore avoiding all the nuckle draggers/mouth breathers/fat mums who would without thinking bang the door of their car into mine. If Store does not have enough spaces/big enough car park, I simply shop elsewhere 
This, I can walk, I walk quite a lot so getting nearer the front of the store isn't a big deal for me, I am also keen to avoid dents.Drives me wife mad, me parking in the remote end of a car park, but then her car has a few dents, like her previous one did and mine, thus far hasn't got one, it will no doubt but I try to avoid people who aren't all that fussed about other folks property.
Its like the gym, people go there to exert themselves, yet will park on the double yellows outside the door, there is a bloke in a Lambo that routinely parks in the disabled bays.
Most supermarket car parks need redesigning I think.
it is possible to make it easy for the disabled, people with small children and everyone else without them impacting each other to the ire that many seem to feel.
At the local "big" tesco, the P&C spaces are close to the entrance of the store but you have to drive past hundreds of other spaces to get to them. You really have to put in the effort to be a bellend to go and use them as unless you happen to go at absolute rush hour, you'll probably find a normal space sooner than can drive to the P&C spaces, which in rush hour, are probably full anyway.
The disabled spaces are also near the entrance but have their own row, I don't think there are any "normal" spaces along that row either, so again, its a special effort to use them rather than find a regular space.
Same with Waitrose, although smaller, the P&C/Disabled spaces are on their own row and you drive past normal spaces to get to them.
Sainsburys though, the P&C spaces are the first ones you see and when it looks busy, whether it is busy or not, people will go in them. Not helped by the weird layout with too many junctions for people to get held up at.
it is possible to make it easy for the disabled, people with small children and everyone else without them impacting each other to the ire that many seem to feel.
At the local "big" tesco, the P&C spaces are close to the entrance of the store but you have to drive past hundreds of other spaces to get to them. You really have to put in the effort to be a bellend to go and use them as unless you happen to go at absolute rush hour, you'll probably find a normal space sooner than can drive to the P&C spaces, which in rush hour, are probably full anyway.
The disabled spaces are also near the entrance but have their own row, I don't think there are any "normal" spaces along that row either, so again, its a special effort to use them rather than find a regular space.
Same with Waitrose, although smaller, the P&C/Disabled spaces are on their own row and you drive past normal spaces to get to them.
Sainsburys though, the P&C spaces are the first ones you see and when it looks busy, whether it is busy or not, people will go in them. Not helped by the weird layout with too many junctions for people to get held up at.
How about outside a church, few years back was passing and a funeral cortege arrived to find a car (cant remember what it was, nothing flash) plonked in the coned off area.
That's a special kind of higher level t
ttery, parking in a space with black cones with a cross and "FUNERAL" written on 
Other one was in Oldham, outside the hospital when visiting my grandad, a family arrived and parked their white X5 in the Ambulance bay, then proceeded to argue with the ambulance driver when asked to move it.
That's a special kind of higher level t
ttery, parking in a space with black cones with a cross and "FUNERAL" written on Other one was in Oldham, outside the hospital when visiting my grandad, a family arrived and parked their white X5 in the Ambulance bay, then proceeded to argue with the ambulance driver when asked to move it.
The Spanish system for parking needs to come to the UK, especially for multi story car parks.
Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
red_slr said:
The Spanish system for parking needs to come to the UK, especially for multi story car parks.
Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
They have this system already in the UK. Westfields Shopping Centre and so on.Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
It's ok, it means you can see a few car spaces ahead.
Would be better if they had a sign with the amount of free spaces as each end of each row, that way if it says 0, no need to go down the row and lookout for a green light.
Edited by hyphen on Monday 16th December 12:12
Out of interest, if you really needed the loo, and the only available option was the disabled toilet, would you use it?
I haven't parked in a disabled bay before, but have done the above - more than once.
Which has made me think. Disabled facilities are just that, but does being disabled mean you shouldn't have to wait in line?
Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone could look anything other than an a-hole for taking a disabled space, but in principle I don't see why you couldn't take a disabled space if there were no other options after patiently confirming so. I wouldn't, but in all honesty I think that is due to the inevitable social shaming rather than I think there is something genuinely wrong with it.
I haven't parked in a disabled bay before, but have done the above - more than once.
Which has made me think. Disabled facilities are just that, but does being disabled mean you shouldn't have to wait in line?
Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone could look anything other than an a-hole for taking a disabled space, but in principle I don't see why you couldn't take a disabled space if there were no other options after patiently confirming so. I wouldn't, but in all honesty I think that is due to the inevitable social shaming rather than I think there is something genuinely wrong with it.
I have done and would park in a disabled space if all the regular ones are taken. Seen a situation during busy Xmas period where literally every regular space has gone but tens of spaces available per floor for disabled spots. Imho they build far more disabled spaces than they actually need which sometimes puts undue pressure on the regular spaces.
Before anyone lays in to me I would not park in a disabled spot otherwise.
Same can be said btw for electric charging spaces, almost always empty in my experience + tend to be prime spots right next to the entrance!
TX.
Before anyone lays in to me I would not park in a disabled spot otherwise.
Same can be said btw for electric charging spaces, almost always empty in my experience + tend to be prime spots right next to the entrance!
TX.
Aiminghigh123 said:
What go to the shops!!!! Sod that.
Online shopping people. Ocado now have Zoom delivery within 1hr. Saves so much time and stress. Walking distance shop for fruit and veg is about my limit.
I imagine Zoom delivery is limited to x amount of the most popular/expensive variant of items as opposed to their Online shopping people. Ocado now have Zoom delivery within 1hr. Saves so much time and stress. Walking distance shop for fruit and veg is about my limit.
full selection.
hyphen said:
red_slr said:
The Spanish system for parking needs to come to the UK, especially for multi story car parks.
Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
They have this system already in the UK. Westfields Shopping Centre and so on.Each space has a green and red light over it. If its red its occupied. If its green its free.
Then as you drive down the main access the start of each row has a little green arrow, if its lit it means there is a free space down that row.
So simple and its probably not that expensive to implement either.
It's ok, it means you can see a few car spaces ahead.
Would be better if they had a sign with the amount of free spaces as each end of each row, that way if it says 0, no need to go down the row and lookout for a green light.
Edited by hyphen on Monday 16th December 12:12
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