Parking in a disabled space when a car park is full

Parking in a disabled space when a car park is full

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J4CKO

41,613 posts

201 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Vipers said:
Blue badge = can park in a disabled bay, no blue badge = don’t park in disabled bay, simples.

No understand, don’t drive because there may be lots of other things you don’t understand, like box junctions, lane discipline et al.
Its a bit of a blunt instrument though isn't it ?

Sometimes people have a temporary disability, caused by an injury, for example if someone say had a gout flare up, ruptured Achilles or something like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a disabled bay if they truly were struggling/in pain and it made their life easier.

The Blue Badge has to exist as a percentage of people abuse they system to confer themselves an advantage.


nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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J4CKO said:
Its a bit of a blunt instrument though isn't it ?

Sometimes people have a temporary disability, caused by an injury, for example if someone say had a gout flare up, ruptured Achilles or something like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a disabled bay if they truly were struggling/in pain and it made their life easier.

The Blue Badge has to exist as a percentage of people abuse they system to confer themselves an advantage.
Next time I have an attack of gout, I'll remember that. Straight to a disabled bay and enter the shop with a limp.

(I would not even consider this option. But plenty would.)

I always liked the American road sign, 'Don't even THINK about parking here'. Perhaps that may be effective in blue badge zones.

popeyewhite

19,929 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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J4CKO said:
Its a bit of a blunt instrument though isn't it ?

Sometimes people have a temporary disability, caused by an injury, for example if someone say had a gout flare up, ruptured Achilles or something like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a disabled bay if they truly were struggling/in pain and it made their life easier.

The Blue Badge has to exist as a percentage of people abuse they system to confer themselves an advantage.
An acquaintance of mine isn't disabled in any way but has an autistic child. She has a blue badge which to be honest I'm surprised she was awarded. The boy needs constant care, especially around vehicles, but a disabled spot isn't really necessary.

bqf

2,231 posts

172 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Funny, I was thinking about this yesterday. My little Co-Op only has 6 spaces (!) and I only wanted a paper. The two disabled spaces were free, and I'd only be a minute.....

But then I remembered that despite mild arthritis in my back I can walk perfectly fine, so I drove another 500 yds to the village car park and parked there.

When you have a disability, even temporarily (like a broken ankle) - It's proper irritating to see non-disabled people use those spaces.

Vipers

32,894 posts

229 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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J4CKO said:
Vipers said:
Blue badge = can park in a disabled bay, no blue badge = don’t park in disabled bay, simples.

No understand, don’t drive because there may be lots of other things you don’t understand, like box junctions, lane discipline et al.
Its a bit of a blunt instrument though isn't it ?

Sometimes people have a temporary disability, caused by an injury, for example if someone say had a gout flare up, ruptured Achilles or something like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a disabled bay if they truly were struggling/in pain and it made their life easier.

The Blue Badge has to exist as a percentage of people abuse they system to confer themselves an advantage.
No badge, don't park, without a badge open to verbal and ticket. But I do understand your point.

popeyewhite

19,929 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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Vipers said:
J4CKO said:
Vipers said:
Blue badge = can park in a disabled bay, no blue badge = don’t park in disabled bay, simples.

No understand, don’t drive because there may be lots of other things you don’t understand, like box junctions, lane discipline et al.
Its a bit of a blunt instrument though isn't it ?

Sometimes people have a temporary disability, caused by an injury, for example if someone say had a gout flare up, ruptured Achilles or something like that.

I wouldn't have a problem with someone using a disabled bay if they truly were struggling/in pain and it made their life easier.

The Blue Badge has to exist as a percentage of people abuse they system to confer themselves an advantage.
No badge, don't park, without a badge open to verbal and ticket. But I do understand your point.
I think if I saw someone struggling to walk from their car whilst parked in a disabled spot I wouldn't care whether they had a badge or not.

Vipers

32,894 posts

229 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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popeyewhite said:
I think if I saw someone struggling to walk from their car whilst parked in a disabled spot I wouldn't care whether they had a badge or not.
TBH neither would I, but some won't, and we have the parking chappies to contend with.

Sticks.

8,768 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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popeyewhite said:
An acquaintance of mine isn't disabled in any way but has an autistic child. She has a blue badge which to be honest I'm surprised she was awarded. The boy needs constant care, especially around vehicles, but a disabled spot isn't really necessary.
The criteria were broadened to include disabilities which weren't just mobility/access impairments this year. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/people-with-hid...

I get that, but it will increase the number of BB holders, but not spaces, and as long as the easier application system doesn't lead to everyone whose child is 'on the autism spectrum' thinking they're entitled.

J4CKO

41,613 posts

201 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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I am no expert on Autistic Spectrum disorders but I think these days it is much better diagnosed, even if the a lot of the general public don't perhaps grasp it and outwardly see a child that looks like any other in a lot of cases.

It is a huge area and no two people with Autism are the same. I really didn't have a clue what it could be like until an incident over the summer where I had to help a parent with a child who had severe autism. The child, a girl of about 9 had a meltdown and would not move from where she had decided she liked to be, a few folk tried to help but just being nice doesn't cut it, but in the end it was a case of manhandling her out between her dad and myself. I wasn't entirely comfortable with it but there seemed to be no other answer and good god it was hard, I am not a slight chap, I lift weights but between us we really struggled to moved a determined and has to be said, pretty vicious 9 year old girl, like a wild animal, a force of nature. It must be hugely difficult with older people.

We got her back to their car, the dad thanked me but I have not felt for anyone I can think of recently that I felt for as much as that chap, at that moment, he looked drained and broken.

I think some just think its a ticket to a blue badge and a free car, and I am sure there are some borderline cases but I would not begrudge that chap a place nearer the door, or a Motability vehicle (he had an old Focus).