RE: Land Rover Discovery 3 V8 | The Brave Pill

RE: Land Rover Discovery 3 V8 | The Brave Pill

Saturday 14th December 2019

Land Rover Discovery 3 V8 | The Brave Pill

We can think of eight reasons this might be a Discovery worth making



There are two ways to look at the minority interest variants that make up a tiny percentage of a model's total build. The first, more cautious approach, is to believe that these are oddballs that were likely shunned with good reason when new, and which are best avoided once heavily used. Here, however, we prefer the alternative, glass half full perspective: that these are the rare gems which will rise furthest and fastest when the collectors start to pile in.

It's a point that's been made by cars like the Ford Cortina 2.3 Ghia - fit for nothing more than banger racing 20 years ago, now a tidy little nest egg if your Uncle Norbert has left one in his lock-up. And while the Land Rover Discovery 3 is still several country miles away from even near-classic status - the sort that Capitalizes Advert Text and gets vendors talking about "custodianship" - there's no denying that the brawny V8 fitted to the very blunt end of our Pill makes it a rare curio in the UK.

It's never been hard to see the rugged appeal of the square-rigged third-gen Discovery, a car that pretty much took over its bit of the market the moment it was launched in 2004. Earlier Discoveries had used the ladder frame chassis still associated with proper off-roading, but the rest of the company's non-Defender range had already switched to monocoque construction. With the Disco 3, Land Rover hedged its bets with what was described as an "integrated body frame" structure effectively combining both. The result was a hugely tough vehicle, but also a serious porker - two and a half tonnes in its socks and undies.


What to pit against all this pudge? Land Rover's then-parent Ford opted to limit diesel choice to what was then the spiffy new 2.7-litre V6 unit it had jointly developed with PSA. 195hp and 361lb ft might sound like plenty, but the Disco's bulk (and the automatic gearbox that many owners opted for) meant acceleration was both leisurely and loud. Sadly the more muscular and interesting 'Lion' TDV8 diesel that was created for the Range Rover and Range Rover Sport was never offered with the Discovery, although there is no doubt it would have fitted in that vast bay. Instead buyers in search of more muscle were steered towards a 4.4-litre version of Jaguar's long-serving AJ-V8 engine, this making 300hp and 315lb ft of torque.

The V8 was intended for those parts of the world where fuel was cheaper than bottled water, which definitely wasn't the case in the UK back then as the Blair government's 'fuel escalator' started to bite. Officially it scored 18.8mpg combined economy, although that figure was a best case scenario rather than an indicator of what buyers could expect day-to-day.

From the memory of what was probably the only Discovery 3 V8 press car that Land Rover ever registered, pushing hard enough to experience the muscular-if-muted eight-cylinder soundtrack quickly dropped the trip computer to the sort of mpg numbers normally only experienced by torpedoed oil tankers. And while it was the quickest Discovery, it still wasn't exactly a rocketship. Land Rover quoted an 8.6-second 0-62mph time, which would be delivered at the sort of nose-up angle of a climbing Airbus. Like the diesel versions, the V8's height and bulk will make any attempt at faster progress feel like trying to waltz with an elephant.


Of course, these days fuel consumption is one of the lesser worries for a budget-conscious Discovery 3 owner. Against tough opposition it is now regarded as one of Land Rover's high watermarks for expense and unreliability. For bargain hunters prepared to go where the medals grow there are plenty of examples of the TDV6 with short MOTs, glowing warning lights and graunchy transmissions being offered for less than half the £5,000 of our petrol-fired Pill. So why even consider the V8?

Actually we can think of several reasons, beyond the sheer novelty factor of having one. The V8 is definitely a nicer engine to live with than the grumbly diesel. And although the compression ignition version has much better fuel economy when it is working, it is also much more likely to be proceeding, with a long list of potential failures - including the unfortunate tendency some have shown to snap crankshafts. Yet to judge from both the AJ-V8's reputation in the UK, and forum chatter in the parts of the world where it powers most Discovery 3s, the under-stressed petrol V8 is pretty tough.

There's still plenty of other stuff to go wrong, of course - this Disco's reputation for dropping atomic bills is based on more than just its powerplant. Pick from air suspension failures, electrical maladies, transmission faults and the infuriating tendency of the electric parking brake to stick on. But for limited mileage use the V8 might - just might - be the smarter choice. For one thing, it's London ULEZ compliant, more than can be said for any of its diesel siblings.


Our Pill has certainly scrubbed up well, looking considerably smarter than 14 years and 130,000 miles would lead you to expect. Darker colours always suited this Discovery better than the Resale Silver more buyers went for in period, with the button-strewn dashboard indicating the HSE's position at the top of the range tree.

Standard spec included leather and power seats, but our Pill seems to have had a fair number of options added, included twin sunroofs and proper factory second-row entertainment with infrared headphone connectivity: no elastic straps and trailing wires here. Beyond some trim wear, including what looks like a hole in the base of the driver's seat, it looks impressively fresh. Providing (most) things work, it should still be a thoroughly nice place to spend time.

Have you spotted what's missing yet? Unusually our Pill isn't sporting a tow bar - tugging things being the Disco's favourite pastime. Indeed, one of the caravanning magazines made it their tow car of the decade well before the 'noughties had even ended. It does seem improbable that such a brawny beast has never been used for hauling, so it's possible the ball has been removed to smarten it up. Yet nor is there any sign of the LPG dock that cheap, thirsty petrol cars like this often sport. Meaning any conversion to gas could be done on a new owner's terms, rather than by the last-but-one's mate down the pub.


The dealer selling our Pill promises some service history, but doesn't go into more detail. The MOT record suggests both regular use and some big mileages in recent years. It did nearly 20,000 miles between October 2017 and October 2018, then another 30,000 before the next MOT in March this year - the 17 month gap down to either a casual attitude to legality or a period of SORN. That must have made for an impressive pile of fuel receipts. Yet there's nothing of undue note in the published record beyond an entirely unsurprising tendency to wear out suspension and braking components. Strangely, the DVLA thinks that it's a Range Rover Sport - the same anomaly that struck the supercharged L322 Range Rover we Pill'd back in April. It seems somebody at Land Rover wasn't too hot at filling in registration documents back then.

Consider the sort of V8 Land Cruiser Amazon you could buy for this amount; you'd be doing well to find one with less than twice the mileage and without any visible bailer-twine repairs. Sure, the Toyota is tougher and better engineered and less likely to leave you sobbing by the side of the road - but is it really cooler or more interesting? We thought not.


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livinginasia

Original Poster:

850 posts

110 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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I rather like that, certainly nicer for trundling around in than the diesel. Certainly would be a brave purchase though.

soad

32,902 posts

176 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Just how plasticky does that interior look?!

Might as well buy a Range Rover? getmecoat

Rob-s5mok

92 posts

100 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Don't be fooled by the lack of tow bar: these had the removable tow hitch which slid into place. Suitable only for taking your unbraked trailer to the tip, they were used by many owners for horse boxes, caravans and digger trailers, only for Thier precious cargo to end up in the central reservation.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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The MOT part of this doesn't make sense in the article.

It should be October 2016 to October 2017 where it did the near 20k miles.

That aside, the 30k miles travelled at 18mpg at £1.25 a litre is almost £10000 in fuel! In 17 months!


RazerSauber

2,282 posts

60 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Wouldn't this qualify for the "lower" tax bracket too? That would increase temptation..

MJ85

1,849 posts

174 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Yes it would.

Krikkit

26,529 posts

181 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Why would you buy this over one of the supercharged engined FFRR's at the same or slightly more money? Both very capable off road, both laughably uneconomical, but the range is nicer in every way.

Gez79

217 posts

183 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Quite like it but the reliability of the rest of the package plus the running costs vs performance makes this a very hard pill to swallow

Edited by Gez79 on Saturday 14th December 10:02

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Krikkit said:
Why would you buy this over one of the supercharged engined FFRR's at the same or slightly more money? Both very capable off road, both laughably uneconomical, but the range is nicer in every way.
Because they're different cars, with different features and different interiors. For example 7 seats on the Disco, more space inside and so on confused

Cambs_Stuart

2,874 posts

84 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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RazerSauber said:
Wouldn't this qualify for the "lower" tax bracket too? That would increase temptation..
If you're worried about a couple of hundred pounds in tax per year, this probably isn't the vehicle for you....

Billy_Whizzzz

2,008 posts

143 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Bought a RR classic shed with upgraded 4.6 V8 for peanuts for pottering around in and it’s epic, except for the (many) bits that keep falling off. This could be the same but rust is a real killer on these Discos, however shiny they look from the outside.

scottygib553

532 posts

95 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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A brave a pill as one can swallow. The fuel bills alone

giveitfish

4,031 posts

214 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Nicely written article! Climbing Airbus lol biggrin

w1bbles

1,003 posts

136 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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I’ve had one for 5 years and I’m holding onto it on the basis that its V8 loveliness and waftability will make me regret selling it for peanuts today.

tosh.brice

204 posts

211 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Both front seats have holes, not just the driver's as mentioned.
Some design fault or did the owner's dog climb in using its teeth?

corden

72 posts

134 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Many fond memories riding around in one of these in the mid-late 2000s. My parents 05 example in maroon red was a treat to travel in even when relegated to the third row by my 3 siblings. And the big grin on my step-Dads face every time he hit the loud(ish) pedal (despite the relative lack of pace) will always remain with me. As will the huge disappointment when upgrading to the oil-burning-only Disco 4.

Repeated issues with dodgy electrics and the accompanying woeful service from the local Land Rover dealer took the shine off a little. As did the terrible fuel economy. But obviously not enough for him to have changed from anything except a Discovery of some sort for the last 20 years (but he still says the 3 V8 was his favourite).

SJMW

40 posts

98 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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Owned one for 4 years. Fault free apart from regular servicing. Replaced it wit a new D4. The most versatile car Land Rover has made.

A.J.M

7,914 posts

186 months

Saturday 14th December 2019
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I wanted a V8 model, sadly their 2 year run in the uk sales means supply is low and trying to get the idea spec I wanted didn’t happen.

So got a resale silver diesel one instead.
A remap and bigger intercooler has it on par with v8 performance but without the noise of the v8.

Great, if expensive to keep in top fettle cars.
Had mine 7 years, ticked over the big 200,000 today and will likely be good for the big 300.

Probably the most practical and all rounder I’ve owned and will likely have.
It’s worth nothing to someone else so I’ll keep it and run it till I can afford a new defender which will put it into semi retirement.

Chestrockwell

2,629 posts

157 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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I drove a friends RRS 2.7 diesel a few weeks ago and the trip computer showed 22mpg, I’m not sure why people shy away from the petrol ones. It’s only 5mpg off and petrol is cheaper!

Lovely car to drive and I’ve been told it’s a Disco 3 with a different body however I much preferred the interior of the RRS, it felt more driver focused, this looks very van like.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Rob-s5mok said:
Don't be fooled by the lack of tow bar: these had the removable tow hitch which slid into place. Suitable only for taking your unbraked trailer to the tip, they were used by many owners for horse boxes, caravans and digger trailers, only for Thier precious cargo to end up in the central reservation.
Utter cock. I dragged a 1200kg car on a 500kg trailer up and down the motorway for years behind mine.