Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth | Spotted

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PAUL500 said:

It is a well known car that has done the rounds for many years.

Regardless of its life and back story, it is the only one that can correctly wear the number plate E112 VEV //

Ringer.

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PAUL500 said:

Now the one to still find is that last one, number 500, many rumours, many claims, but still yet to officially resurface the last I heard

I don't really get why a specific number of a bunch of identical cars should be worth more than any other. If each one had been put together by an individual craftsman with a free hand who was then slaughtered to make its leather interior that would different.

Still, if it turns someone on then who am I to judge?

[PAUL500]

Cold said:

PAUL500 said:

It is a well known car that has done the rounds for many years.

Regardless of its life and back story, it is the only one that can correctly wear the number plate E112 VEV //

Ringer.

Incorrect, as part of its hard life as a test car it was reshelled in period when the original one was damaged beyond repair, which is a quite legitimate process, and it happened to most of the pre production examples also. I believe the floor section bearing the original stamp is incorporated into the current shell.

As an aside I can confirm at least 10% of all of the 500 examples and now not sitting in their original Tickford shells either, and most of them are not ringers either! although the odd one or two have identical twins residing in other parts of the world

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oops I did not spot my typo, you are quite correct is on a D not an E!

[silentbrown]

Where's this "sold in 2016 for £200K" come from?

I found it failing to sell at Silverstone Auctions in May 2018. Apparenly bidding ran out at about £78K, estimate was £90-120K.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/events/2018-au...

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PAUL500 said:

Cold said:

PAUL500 said:

It is a well known car that has done the rounds for many years.

Regardless of its life and back story, it is the only one that can correctly wear the number plate E112 VEV //

Ringer.

Incorrect, as part of its hard life as a test car it was reshelled in period when the original one was damaged beyond repair, which is a quite legitimate process, and it happened to most of the pre production examples also. I believe the floor section bearing the original stamp is incorporated into the current shell.

As an aside I can confirm at least 10% of all of the 500 examples and now not sitting in their original Tickford shells either, and most of them are not ringers either! although the odd one or two have identical twins residing in other parts of the world

Parrot for you.

[PAUL500]

Yep

[anonymous-user]

I had a very brief look at one in 2003. It was black and up for £7k. Described as ‘not concours’ as I think the guy was sick of people wanting a show car. He was really struggling to sell it. I bought a Golf VR6 instead.

[Leins]

s m said:

Leins said:

My claim to shame is ignoring a 50k-miler full-history UK Sport Evo being sold through BMW AUC in 2000 for £14.5k, and instead buying a new 316i Compact!

Just console yourself Leins in the knowledge that the experts on here will tell you they were all rubbish ...

Haha, very true! Anyway, of all this era of cars it’s the Alpina B6 that I’ve always most wanted, which many will say are even more rubbish

[ZX10R NIN]

Not a bad price for that particular car especially if you compare M3/190E prices.

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J4CKO said:

You didnt see them all the time, at least not the 2 doors, it was generally something well heeled middle aged blokes tended to buy.

I bought mine in 1990, and I knew at least 3 other people within 5 miles that had one at the same time. At least 3 of us wore overalls for work, and a couple of us were in our 30's. Money no object I'd still have a RS500 over an E30 M3, but not just to look at and polish.

[AndySheff]

Bloke that lived near me had one of these back in the day. A dream car of mine back then. Now it's dream money.

[Its Just Adz]

I've never driven a 3 door Cosworth, doubt I will get to try one now.
Still really want a 2wd Saph though.

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Thornaby said:

I had a very brief look at one in 2003. It was black and up for £7k. Described as ‘not concours’ as I think the guy was sick of people wanting a show car. He was really struggling to sell it. I bought a Golf VR6 instead.

I sold mine in 2003, it was very clean but not concours. No problems selling, the first person that saw it bought it. It seems to have disappeared now though.

[J4CKO]

blade7 said:

J4CKO said:

You didnt see them all the time, at least not the 2 doors, it was generally something well heeled middle aged blokes tended to buy.

I bought mine in 1990, and I knew at least 3 other people within 5 miles that had one at the same time. At least 3 of us wore overalls for work, and a couple of us were in our 30's. Money no object I'd still have a RS500 over an E30 M3, but not just to look at and polish.

I remember a couple locally, both bought new in 86, one Moonstone, one White and both were on the same estate, which was fairly upmarket, they were an expensive car compared to the normal fodder folk had.

They rapidly got into less salubrious ownership though

[harleywilma]

Yuk !!! Really...

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J4CKO said:

I remember a couple locally, both bought new in 86, one Moonstone, one White and both were on the same estate, which was fairly upmarket, they were an expensive car compared to the normal fodder folk had.

They rapidly got into less salubrious ownership though

When I bought mine they were still making £12-14k. If my estate was fairly upmarket, I dread to think what your living arrangements were.

[s m]

Its Just Adz said:

I've never driven a 3 door Cosworth, doubt I will get to try one now.
Still really want a 2wd Saph though.

SVE test guys reckoned it was a more fun car to drive if that’s anything to go by - lot lower entry price as well

[S1KRR]

RS500s along with E30M3 SE's will always get my attention. I guess its the BTCC angle. In my multi car garage (Euromillions win dependent ) I'd always have a nice example of both. It's like Chris Harris said elsewhere. You need a variety of cars to fit your mood. Sure a GT3RS is a faster, better built and will handle better. But you lose some of that tactile nature that older fast cars had.


https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...



I like this a lot!

I think I'd want the wheels from this white one on it though




https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[Mikebentley]

Like so many cars of the time it was the thievery that did for them. I had one but was never sure it would be there in the morning. I used to chain my RS to the lamppost at the end of my mums drive.

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S1KRR said:

RS500s along with E30M3 SE's will always get my attention. I guess its the BTCC angle.

One of the curious things about Group A stuff at present is that many of the road cars often fetch more than the competition cars with history.

That's never been the case with Group 4 and Group B cars even when everything was 5-10x cheaper.

A competition car certainly isn't very usable but neither is a 1000 mile RS500.