Lotus Exige S (S2) | Spotted

Lotus Exige S (S2) | Spotted

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WCZ

10,544 posts

195 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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these have really crept up in price and £30k for an S1 ? I remember them being £9k

otolith

56,252 posts

205 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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WCZ said:
these have really crept up in price and £30k for an S1 ? I remember them being £9k
One of those "Wish I'd bought one? Wish I'd bought ten!" cars laugh

thelostboy

4,574 posts

226 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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£30k is entry level; I have seen S1 Exiges up for £50-60k! But they won't make a car like it again; fantastic things with proper mini Group C looks.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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thelostboy said:
£30k is entry level; I have seen S1 Exiges up for £50-60k! But they won't make a car like it again; fantastic things with proper mini Group C looks.
Exactly. £30-35k will probably get you something average.

garylythgoe

806 posts

223 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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WCZ said:
these have really crept up in price and £30k for an S1 ? I remember them being £9k
You probably haven't seen an S1 Exige for sale for £9k!

Maybe a tatty S1 Elise, but certainly not an Exige!

Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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garylythgoe said:
WCZ said:
these have really crept up in price and £30k for an S1 ? I remember them being £9k
You probably haven't seen an S1 Exige for sale for £9k!

Maybe a tatty S1 Elise, but certainly not an Exige!
Yeah, I don't think S1 Exiges ever got quite that low. Probably £15-20k for a while (which is about where S2's got to at one stage as well) but no lower. S1 Elises probably got as low as £6k for a ropey one at one point. I bought and sold my 111s for £8k with 2 years of use in between. Sold it around 2010. Those cars seem to be nearer £20k now. It is one of the more appealing aspects of Lotus ownership that you can often own these things for very little outlay once you factor in a general lack of depreciation.

Incidentally, the first S1 Exige off the line, an orange one that featured in most of the early reviews was recently advertised for £45k which I thought seemed quite reasonable for a little snippet of Louts history.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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bobo79 said:
??this. And the stress of returning to your parking slot to discover someone has parked next to you slightly too close so you can’t get in. Or worse still if someone has reversed into you (because they didn’t see the car in their mirror) cracking the clam.

Anyone who says they are a great daily is either a psychopath or has never driven one.

Love them, though.
Sorry, but bullst.

I ran one as my daily driver for 2 years and 35,000 miles. Absolutely brilliant, even on 48Rs on the odd bit of snow. Every commute, every trip to the shop was a 'blast', every roundabout a chicane. Far from the fastest car I've owned, not the rawest, but for out and out fun, it is probably the best.

Anyone that says it's poor as a daily driver is either too dull, or too fat wink

I only sold it (for £17,500!!) when a family came on the scene.

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Not to sound boring, but I daily drove a VX220 NA, in all weathers. I had an uprated heater which made things better, but it wasn't so bad! I sold it - big, big mistake after 30k, but have just got hold of another VX220, this time in the supercharged flavour.

It's not one for daily driving any more, but even with a dodgy knee, overweight and sometimes a bad back it's worth every little niggle.....oh, and tinnitus too!

Roma101

838 posts

148 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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herebebeasties said:
I would say this given I own one, but unless you're going to track it and therefore want the intercooler and the downforce in the Exige, I think an Elise SC is the better option for most people. It's even lighter (with the same power), it's cheaper, and it's more practical; you can actually see out of the back, and the nose is fractionally higher. That makes all the difference with driveways, car parks, etc. with nasty approach angles.

That said, the Exige is just cooler, isn't it? Especially in Chrome Orange with black spoiler, splitter & wheels. (It's the only car/colour combo that I think looks good with black wheels.)

I drove an early S2 Elise daily, before I bought my SC. Later ones with carpets, etc. are more habitable on motorways, and if you get on with the seats really long distances are surprisingly fine provided you don't get a droning sports exhaust - I did 1000km in a day once in my early K-series S2 (back to London from Bordeaux in one hit).

The clams are a pain, especially the front one. People can't see/judge it because it's so low and it's pretty fragile. My current SC is parked on the street in London and one just has to cope and not be precious about it. It's not like it affects the handling.

At some point I'll move to the countryside and it'll have a garage to live in, at which point I'll get it all patched up and resprayed. Annoying, but then it's barely lost any value in the eight years since I bought it and it's peanuts to run, so not the end of the world. I can see how it wouldn't work if you're the kind of person who insists on their car being spotless, though.

You get used to getting in and out, although infrequent/older passengers might not appreciate it. If you have a soft top on them, they're so low that if you're reasonably tall you can just wind down the window and step over the door to get in, in really tight parking spaces. The car is quite heavily waisted, too, which helps.

I managed to get out of this one, for example:


Edited by herebebeasties on Sunday 12th January 18:46
Hopefully the RR driver didn’t damage your car whilst getting back in to theirs! Or did you come and go before they returned to their car?

And, yes, that is truly awful parking. If you can’t park in a box that is a bit bigger than your car, you shouldn’t be on the roads!

Ryvita

715 posts

211 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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I had an S2 Exige for about two years as a second car. Would echo much of the above really. Amazing amazing cars, fantastic on B roads (the small size is so useful to make roads feel like you have some space to position yourself), even better on track. I'd also agree that while it is daily-able, that's not going to work for everyone depending on circumstances and tolerance. The Exige can be converted to take a standard Elise soft roof. I had one which got put on in the summer.

Only thing to add further is, everyone should put the TRD airbox in. Its cheap, it gives you a few extra BHP, and it makes awesome induction noises. smile

I think it was this one: https://www.elise-shop.com/trd-airbox-including-fi...

otolith

56,252 posts

205 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Ryvita said:
Only thing to add further is, everyone should put the TRD airbox in. Its cheap, it gives you a few extra BHP, and it makes awesome induction noises. smile
BWAAAARRRRP!

It's really very silly. I literally laughed out loud the first time it went onto the high lift cam after I had it fitted. Love it.

renmure

4,253 posts

225 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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I've had an S1 and a Type 72 S2 Exige S. Kudos to anyone using either as a daily driver. No way could I have done that. The S1 certainly had a bigger sense of occasion when driving it but even the relative "comfort" of the S2 just consisted of less banging and crashing of the suspension andless (or different) engine and exhaust noise. All great fun if you are in the mood.

Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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otolith said:
Ryvita said:
Only thing to add further is, everyone should put the TRD airbox in. Its cheap, it gives you a few extra BHP, and it makes awesome induction noises. smile
BWAAAARRRRP!

It's really very silly. I literally laughed out loud the first time it went onto the high lift cam after I had it fitted. Love it.
Do either of have a supercharged engine or is this on n/a cars?

otolith

56,252 posts

205 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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Gad-Westy said:
otolith said:
Ryvita said:
Only thing to add further is, everyone should put the TRD airbox in. Its cheap, it gives you a few extra BHP, and it makes awesome induction noises. smile
BWAAAARRRRP!

It's really very silly. I literally laughed out loud the first time it went onto the high lift cam after I had it fitted. Love it.
Do either of have a supercharged engine or is this on n/a cars?
It's the airbox fitted as standard to supercharged cars, which can be fitted to the NA cars.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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I have a highly modded S1 Sport 160 and it's a bundle of energy. Love it...!

Standard cars are good but you need to tweak these things to your liking.

Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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otolith said:
Gad-Westy said:
otolith said:
Ryvita said:
Only thing to add further is, everyone should put the TRD airbox in. Its cheap, it gives you a few extra BHP, and it makes awesome induction noises. smile
BWAAAARRRRP!

It's really very silly. I literally laughed out loud the first time it went onto the high lift cam after I had it fitted. Love it.
Do either of have a supercharged engine or is this on n/a cars?
It's the airbox fitted as standard to supercharged cars, which can be fitted to the NA cars.
A bit of googlising suggests it was maybe just the cup cars that got that airbox? If so, would be interesting to find out how it sounds on a standard S. Always valued induction noise over exhaust.

otolith

56,252 posts

205 months

Monday 13th January 2020
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I thought it was on all of the supercharged cars, but perhaps not.

Ryvita

715 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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Gad-Westy said:
A bit of googlising suggests it was maybe just the cup cars that got that airbox? If so, would be interesting to find out how it sounds on a standard S. Always valued induction noise over exhaust.
Mine was installed on a standard S and made a very noticable difference. So I think it was just Cup cars that got it as standard. Putting it on got me a slightly higher rolling road figure than stock too (if you put any credence by such things). It added general noise level and a significant induction "cough" (suction / gurgling noise) on lifts.

Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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Ryvita said:
Gad-Westy said:
A bit of googlising suggests it was maybe just the cup cars that got that airbox? If so, would be interesting to find out how it sounds on a standard S. Always valued induction noise over exhaust.
Mine was installed on a standard S and made a very noticable difference. So I think it was just Cup cars that got it as standard. Putting it on got me a slightly higher rolling road figure than stock too (if you put any credence by such things). It added general noise level and a significant induction "cough" (suction / gurgling noise) on lifts.
That's good to hear. For the £80 ish that they cost, I think I might give it a try.

Feirny

2,524 posts

148 months

Tuesday 14th January 2020
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I did 14k miles in 9 months in my heavily modified S2 Elise, had Nitron coilovers with the unforgiving springs on them. Trammed up and down motorways all day long and it was still a joy to drive. I'd do it all again if my circumstances allowed.