The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

[saaby93]

Your Dad said:

I'm sure there'll be plenty of non-PC comments on one of the drivers in this one:


https://youtu.be/UZiBGMqy3-U

Did the police have a chat with both drivers

[Driver101]

Another DCW video where the dashcam owner chose to be involved in the clash.

It was clear what was happening and easily avoided.

Edited by Driver101 on Friday 23 October 21:18

[donkmeister]

ScotHill said:

My view is that both the biker and the biker were in the wrong, but I would love to know what the PH massive think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWURncxgm5I

Edited by ScotHill on Friday 23 October 10:22

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong... The pitch of the motorcyclist's voice indicates he also knows he's onto a losing argument.

It sounds like a strict "no passing on the right" rule that no reasonable person would expect to see broken, however I could say the same thing about pulling onto a hard shoulder... You wouldn't expect to be undertaken on the hard shoulder but I have seen it happen, mostly abroad (loads of excitable foreigners) but even in the UK. There's no way I would pull onto the hard shoulder without checking there's no-one speeding up it.

I'd say 90:10, with the ultrasonic power ranger getting 90% of the blame and "but... rules?!" cyclist getting 10%.

[donkmeister]

Your Dad said:

I'm sure there'll be plenty of non-PC comments on one of the drivers in this one:


https://youtu.be/UZiBGMqy3-U

So... would he be termed a Koala?

[lyonspride]

donkmeister said:

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong...

You can't really go on that, Harley riders can be a strange bunch, Harley v sports bike is like driver v cyclist.

[mac96]

Driver101 said:

Another DCW video where the dashcam owner choose to be involved in the clash.

It was clear what was happening and easily avoided.

Yes, almost looks deliberate at first viewing. Probably not paying attention initially and then too slow to react. Blue car man at fault really though and any sympathy you might have for him goes when he gets out and starts ranting. Why/? How would he behave if something bad actually happened?

[carinaman]

lyonspride said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong...

You can't really go on that, Harley riders can be a strange bunch, Harley v sports bike is like driver v cyclist.

Harley rider didn't nail it away from the lights, hit 50 mph and then position themselves next to a Cyclist they've just seen go haring through a junction. Ninja boy raced to the scene of his next accident.

The Ninja rider has a YouTube channel with one video bragging about them beating an SUV.

The Ninja rider is the motorcycling equivalent of a DCW.

[mac96]

carinaman said:

lyonspride said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong...

You can't really go on that, Harley riders can be a strange bunch, Harley v sports bike is like driver v cyclist.

Harley rider didn't nail it away from the lights, hit 50 mph and then position themselves next to a Cyclist they've just seen go haring through a junction. Ninja boy raced to the scene of his next accident.

The Ninja rider has a YouTube channel with one video bragging about them beating an SUV.

The Ninja rider is the motorcycling equivalent of a DCW.

Whoever was technically at fault which probably depends upon local rules, on that performance only the Harley rider will be drawing his pension. Cyclist suicidal, Ninja rider easily triggered into aggression and totally lacking in ability to predict other peoples behaviour.

[anonymous-user]

mac96 said:

carinaman said:

lyonspride said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong...

You can't really go on that, Harley riders can be a strange bunch, Harley v sports bike is like driver v cyclist.

Harley rider didn't nail it away from the lights, hit 50 mph and then position themselves next to a Cyclist they've just seen go haring through a junction. Ninja boy raced to the scene of his next accident.

The Ninja rider has a YouTube channel with one video bragging about them beating an SUV.

The Ninja rider is the motorcycling equivalent of a DCW.

Whoever was technically at fault which probably depends upon local rules, on that performance only the Harley rider will be drawing his pension. Cyclist suicidal, Ninja rider easily triggered into aggression and totally lacking in ability to predict other peoples behaviour.

Cyclist wasn’t suicidal, he was moving away from the kerb and taking a better line around the corner. Probably should have done a shoulder check but then if the rules of the road are don’t undertake on the right, backed up by grandad on the Harley, then the muppet on the green bike was 100% wrong.

[mac96]

pablo said:

mac96 said:

carinaman said:

lyonspride said:

donkmeister said:

I don't know what the rules are in Ontario, but the Harley rider seems pretty adamant that the motorcyclist is in the wrong...

You can't really go on that, Harley riders can be a strange bunch, Harley v sports bike is like driver v cyclist.

Harley rider didn't nail it away from the lights, hit 50 mph and then position themselves next to a Cyclist they've just seen go haring through a junction. Ninja boy raced to the scene of his next accident.

The Ninja rider has a YouTube channel with one video bragging about them beating an SUV.

The Ninja rider is the motorcycling equivalent of a DCW.

Whoever was technically at fault which probably depends upon local rules, on that performance only the Harley rider will be drawing his pension. Cyclist suicidal, Ninja rider easily triggered into aggression and totally lacking in ability to predict other peoples behaviour.

Cyclist wasn’t suicidal, he was moving away from the kerb and taking a better line around the corner. Probably should have done a shoulder check but then if the rules of the road are don’t undertake on the right, backed up by grandad on the Harley, then the muppet on the green bike was 100% wrong.

Changing lanes without looking behind (regardless of what the local rules say), wearing headphones that remove one of the safety advantages you have as a cyclist, running red lights at high speed don't suggest he has much sense of self preservation. That makes him suicidal in the metaphorical sense that I intended.
Doesn't mean he was to blame for the collision- motorcyclist was no better and if you are right that the rules prohibit overtaking on the left like that, then I'd agree that motorcyclist is to blame. But neither will be making old bones if that was typical of their riding.

[Krikkit]

mac96 said:

Changing lanes without looking behind (regardless of what the local rules say), wearing headphones that remove one of the safety advantages you have as a cyclist, running red lights at high speed don't suggest he has much sense of self preservation. That makes him suicidal in the metaphorical sense that I intended.
Doesn't mean he was to blame for the collision- motorcyclist was no better and if you are right that the rules prohibit overtaking on the left like that, then I'd agree that motorcyclist is to blame. But neither will be making old bones if that was typical of their riding.

100% agree with you there - and the same goes for the absolute throbber on that 250cc piece of arse.

[anonymous-user]

A Winner Is You said:

ScotHill said:

My view is that both the biker and the biker were in the wrong, but I would love to know what the PH massive think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWURncxgm5I

Edited by ScotHill on Friday 23 October 10:22

I would have thought the biker was in the wrong for undertaking, but then again the cyclist appeared to be travelling straight ahead and made no form of check or signal before swinging right.

100% Cyclist. What an absolute muppet.

“Take the lane” Jesus Christ.

[Pica-Pica]

mac96 said:

Whoever was technically at fault which probably depends upon local rules, on that performance only the Harley rider will be drawing his pension. Cyclist suicidal, Ninja rider easily triggered into aggression and totally lacking in ability to predict other peoples behaviour.

This. Additionally the Ninja rider had no wish or sense to anticipate, interesting (and sad) there are other countries with people who think like that. The Harley rider looked as if he had seen it all before, and will no doubt see it again.

[Pica-Pica]

mac96 said:

Whoever was technically at fault which probably depends upon local rules, on that performance only the Harley rider will be drawing his pension. Cyclist suicidal, Ninja rider easily triggered into aggression and totally lacking in ability to predict other peoples behaviour.

This. Additionally the Ninja rider had no wish or sense to anticipate, interesting (and sad) there are other countries with people who think like that. The Harley rider looked as if he had seen it all before, and will no doubt see it again.

[blueg33]

I blame Merkans

[WhiskyDisco]

100% the fault of the biker. He was riding too fast, and undercut the cyclist.

Mitigating this is that the cyclist is wearing headphones, didn't signal and was poorly positioned.

Biker should get a ticket for this. Cyclist lives to pedal another day.

[anonymous-user]

WhiskyDisco said:

100% the fault of the biker. He was riding too fast, and undercut the cyclist.

Mitigating this is that the cyclist is wearing headphones, didn't signal and was poorly positioned.

Biker should get a ticket for this. Cyclist lives to pedal another day.

It can't be 100% the fault of the biker then as the cyclist moved into the next lane then swerved back with no visual check or signal. If you change lanes you need to make sure it's clear and signal your intentions, whether you are on a cycle, bike or car.

The biker made the mistake of not allowing enough space for a more vulnerable road user, and not anticipating that the cyclist would do something silly, which lets face it is not exactly uncommon, and probably riding too fast in that situation although the camera tends to distort what it was like at the time.

They both made mistakes and they're both partially at fault.

[ScotHill]

Schmed said:

A Winner Is You said:

ScotHill said:

My view is that both the biker and the biker were in the wrong, but I would love to know what the PH massive think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWURncxgm5I

Edited by ScotHill on Friday 23 October 10:22

I would have thought the biker was in the wrong for undertaking, but then again the cyclist appeared to be travelling straight ahead and made no form of check or signal before swinging right.

100% Cyclist. What an absolute muppet.

“Take the lane” Jesus Christ.

I've read enough of your posts not to give a fk what you say. Thanks to everyone else though.

[LimSlip]

pablo said:

Cyclist wasn’t suicidal, he was moving away from the kerb and taking a better line around the corner. Probably should have done a shoulder check but then if the rules of the road are don’t undertake on the right, backed up by grandad on the Harley, then the muppet on the green bike was 100% wrong.

The cyclist swerved from the correct lane (for his eventual turning), into the left hand lane a fair bit before the junction, so it's understandable the biker thought he was going straight ahead only for the cyclist to swerve back right again at the last second. Running the red light on top of making no observations prior to any of these swerves into different lanes does suggest he has little or no concern about his own safety, or is simply stupid.

[saaby93]

Schmed said:

A Winner Is You said:

ScotHill said:

My view is that both the biker and the biker were in the wrong, but I would love to know what the PH massive think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWURncxgm5I

I would have thought the biker was in the wrong for undertaking, but then again the cyclist appeared to be travelling straight ahead and made no form of check or signal before swinging right.

100% Cyclist. What an absolute muppet.

“Take the lane” Jesus Christ.

Cant we have an option for 100% both?
The biker may have been trying to gain something for his dash cam but with the cyclist moving into the other lane, thought the right lane was clear and went for it.
Who expected the cyclist to swing back across??