The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 5)

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LimSlip

800 posts

54 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
Psycho Warren said:
i find it hilariously amusing how beat up and upset most drivers get when you merge in turn correctly.
What is correctly scratchchin
The clue is in the name. How could you "merge in turn" incorrectly and still be doing what the name describes?

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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LimSlip said:
saaby93 said:
Psycho Warren said:
i find it hilariously amusing how beat up and upset most drivers get when you merge in turn correctly.
What is correctly scratchchin
The clue is in the name. How could you "merge in turn" incorrectly and still be doing what the name describes?
yes
If your're passing a number of people to merge at the front you're not merging in turn.

The term says what it does on the tin.

You can get so many people skipping ahead to the front rather than waiting alongside in their turn that the back of the queue doesnt move

A zip jumping teeth wouldnt work either

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
yes
If your're passing a number of people to merge at the front you're not merging in turn.

The term says what it does on the tin.

You can get so many people skipping ahead to the front rather than waiting alongside in their turn that the back of the queue doesnt move

A zip jumping teeth wouldnt work either
It's merge in turn AT THE MERGE POINT!

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
mcpoot said:
saaby93 said:
SmoothCriminal said:
PH favourite driving instructor has another viewer video.

What do we all think of this?

https://youtu.be/HDckqif01cM

Butt hurt copper flexing his muscles for someone daring to merge in turn after he had?.
Trouble is they didnt really 'merge in turn'.
Everyone should have held station with the people alongside them until they get to the merge point.
Ok some people merge earlier but that's no reason to pass them all and push in at the front - thats not really 'in turn'.
Whats the point of saying 'merge in turn' when hardly anyone knows what it means?
I'm probably going to be guilty of falling for what seems obvious bait but I'll bite.

I think you've just proven your point about not knowing how to use 'merge in turn'. Using all available road space up to the merge point then merge in turn is how it's supposed to work. That's why they they put the merge point where it is. It's not 'pushing in' if you merge like a zip.

But you knew that really didn't you?
smile
Merging like a zip is one thing
merging by jumping ahead a number of teeth doesnt really work like a zip
Ultimately you can get enough people teeth jumping that the back of one lane hardly moves at all
Hold station against corresponding teeth - dont merge early and dont jump position yes
It's incredible that you have this mentality, you choose to merge into the the other lane early before the merge point (breaking the zip) that doesn't mean others should have to do the same, the merge point is the merge point just because you dare not go to the merge point doesn't mean others with more awareness of the correct thing to do shouldn't...you're actually causing the issue that you point to.

Merge in turn, merging 800 yds before the merge point isn't merging in turn...

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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To make it work , it doesnt matter where you merge so long as you merge in turn and dont try to skip ahead a few places.

You'll see a truck driver get fed up stuck in the inside lane in a queue with people skipping to the front in the outside lane.
They'll move out to the other lane and hold station so the inside lane begins moving again.
With any luck a queue build up behind the truck and you get two lanes of traffic merging at whatever is the obstruction.

If everyone did that, who would argue about 'merge in turn'?


FWIW

3,069 posts

97 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
LimSlip said:
saaby93 said:
Psycho Warren said:
i find it hilariously amusing how beat up and upset most drivers get when you merge in turn correctly.
What is correctly scratchchin
The clue is in the name. How could you "merge in turn" incorrectly and still be doing what the name describes?
yes
If your're passing a number of people to merge at the front you're not merging in turn.

The term says what it does on the tin.

You can get so many people skipping ahead to the front rather than waiting alongside in their turn that the back of the queue doesnt move

A zip jumping teeth wouldnt work either
They walk (drive) among us…

FWIW

3,069 posts

97 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
To make it work , it doesnt matter where you merge so long as you merge in turn and dont try to skip ahead a few places.

You'll see a truck driver get fed up stuck in the inside lane in a queue with people skipping to the front in the outside lane.
They'll move out to the other lane and hold station so the inside lane begins moving again.
With any luck a queue build up behind the truck and you get two lanes of traffic merging at whatever is the obstruction.

If everyone did that, who would argue about 'merge in turn'?
Jesus titty fking Christ! smash

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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rofl

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
To make it work , it doesnt matter where you merge so long as you merge in turn and dont try to skip ahead a few places.

You'll see a truck driver get fed up stuck in the inside lane in a queue with people skipping to the front in the outside lane.
They'll move out to the other lane and hold station so the inside lane begins moving again.
With any luck a queue build up behind the truck and you get two lanes of traffic merging at whatever is the obstruction.

If everyone did that, who would argue about 'merge in turn'?
Say that bit out loud to yourself slowly. Say it again. And again. Keep going till it sinks in.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
To make it work , it doesnt matter where you merge so long as you merge in turn and dont try to skip ahead a few places.

You'll see a truck driver get fed up stuck in the inside lane in a queue with people skipping to the front in the outside lane.
They'll move out to the other lane and hold station so the inside lane begins moving again.
With any luck a queue build up behind the truck and you get two lanes of traffic merging at whatever is the obstruction.

If everyone did that, who would argue about 'merge in turn'?
Dear lord rolleyesbanghead

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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It's easy to see that to make 'merge in turn' work = no skipping ahead. yes
Merge one by one like a zip
Or jump ahead looking at all the people being held up?


Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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banghead

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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If people are merging AT THE PHYSICAL MERGE POINT, how much "skipping ahead" is possible do you think?

I'll wait...

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Centurion07 said:
If people are merging AT THE PHYSICAL MERGE POINT, how much "skipping ahead" is possible do you think?

I'll wait...
if the to merge lane is back to back traffic, how is merging at the very end helping anyone? That is the point he is making and for some reason the merge people that do this think they are right. This only reduces queue length and does nothing to improve traffic flow rate, which is the whole point of merge in turn.......

if the people that tear down the empty lane, merged in gaps before the end, then this is correct way, but they don't, they just think they are right and end up slowing everyone else down.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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And the reason they can "fly" all the way to the end is because a massive empty lane has been left by the sheep merging far too early.

This isn't a grey area; if you don't merge as close as safely possible i.e. without having to alter speed, to the physical merge point as possible then you're doing it wrong.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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The same people probably have jumpers with a jammed zip - a long piece one side and a short piece the other but at least theyve done it quickly spin

Merging too soon may not be helpful but skipping to the front slows up every one behind
Hold station, make two queues happen and merge in turn like a working zip yes
Everyone makes the same progress



Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 20th June 15:00

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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And if people didn't merge early both lanes would be full so NOBODY could merge early OR late.

I can explain it but I can't understand it for you. rolleyes

Funk

26,277 posts

209 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Ok, please can we be done with the idiots who can't understand the Merge In Turn and get back to videos. They'll never get it no matter how many posts there are trying to explain it so best just leave them to continue to do it wrong.

Ta.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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The Spruce Goose said:
FFS i posted this, it clearly shows the best practice.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX0I8OdK7Tk

Merge in turn isn't some blanket approach, drive to end and merge, obviously this is where the idiots who see an empty lane and therefore think there actions are right, when as stated they are slowing everyone down, well except themselves...It really isn't rocket science it is just 'i'm alright jack mentality.''
Not really, if people are just too thick to understand how to drive properly it would be rude not to take advantage.


drjdog

345 posts

70 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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blueg33 said:
I really hope this is not serious. But it certainly seems to be the attitude of many people at a merge point.

The roads seem to be full of fools who can’t grasp some of the simplest concepts.
I think the problem is that, in the UK, the outside lane is well known to be the overtaking lane. If there's a queue of traffic for a reason like htis, you're a if you overtake it. In the US, where this idea of zipper merges originates, I don't believe there is an overtaking lane, or a fast lane (or there didn't used to be, anyway), so rocking up in either lane is fine.


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